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« Reply #345 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:01pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 6:58pm, Latitude wrote:
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Good work with the Gif!

I would be lock step with you Latitude... but the photo on the right just looks like a toy leaning against a beam to me (why is it stiff and leaning rather than "natural" and free standing)... I just can not shake that image out of my head.

My fear is that someone is going to take credit for faking all of the photos (maybe even claim to be Isaac... saying look, I even poised a toy in the craft… ha ha ha.) when some of these photos may have merit.

Of all of the photos… this one bothers me the most.
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« Reply #346 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:07pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:47pm, bakosawa wrote:
Ok, I read the early part that spoke about the Ty sighting on:

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

So, why is the sky white (please don’t tell me the drone made it disappear).


What makes the sky white in California is smog, the worst kind - photochemcial smog or summer smog - usually the kind you can't see, which is the most dangerous. We had many days like that in Southern California each year.

The State of California just game me this tid bit -"photochemical smog is caused by the action of sunlight on a mixture of hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen. This smog contains secondary pollutants such as ozone, aldehydes and fine particles."

So essentially, it's not like smoke such as from factories - that's a different kind of smog we're use to that is harmful but not as harmful as the other. Smog from smoke is very noticeable as you stand on top of a foot hill or a mountain because you can see the layers. Also, sitting in your car, you can't see three stop lights ahead of you. It's not that kind. It's white.

Big Basin sits next to the Silicon Valley, which could easily be producing photochemical smog but then it would be blown inland eventually due to the off-shore breezes, which kept the Silicon Valley essentially pretty clean for California. The population of Silicon Valley is over 3 million people.
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« Reply #347 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:07pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:47pm, bakosawa wrote:
So, why is the sky white (please don’t tell me the drone made it disappear).


Ok before anybody gets their panties up into a wad, let me explain. Right after the news broke about the Steven sighting, one of the first things I did was to check the weather report for that area. What they had that day is very typical for this coastal area. Fog/overcast lifting and burning off in the afternoon. That's your white sky. Remember that I live out here and have spent much time in the Santa Cruz and San Jose area.

edit to add: Yes ATO is correct that San Jose is very bad for smog I'm sure this was a factor too.
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« Reply #348 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:12pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:40pm, bakosawa wrote:
I have read it twice (if we are talking about the same one)... but it is a squirrel hunt.

Bako go read it again. embarassed


I know what you're going through because I read it more then once too and the memory isn't designed to absorb it all and store it on the first read, or the second. There's just too much so it's more like a "time on the job" kind of thing. That's the other reason that you'll discover over time on the job, you'll absorb more eventually and it'll all take on a new light. Hard to define, but it does happens.
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« Reply #349 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:14pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:34pm, bakosawa wrote:
Where do I get the hi rez pics of BigBasinTy?

And I know... I probably have missed out on this part, can ya guide me to the old debate so I do not waste space here? Pretty please? smiley


This is where but she's not responding.

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« Reply #350 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:20pm »

Yea... I have spent a few years there too. Enough to know… that if the smog was that bad looking up, it would blot out the sky... the photographer would be wearing a gas mask. Smog will blot out distant objects along the horizon… but I have never seen it blot the sky above. And the smog is much better now that it was 30 years ago.

Fog is a possibility… the shading or shadowing on the craft looks fog like… but the trees appear to be in direct sun light. Check out the dark shadows and bright green sun lit areas. You folks are the experts in this area but the trees look awful detailed and bright for being in the fog… especially that is thick enough to blot out the sky to make it white.

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« Reply #351 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:20pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:41pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
OnTheFence, what did you come up with distance wise versus the tree, etc. Anything?


Nothing useful as far as distance, just the usual hoax/real test for shadows etc. Finally gave up because of lack of story behind it.

The crafts ring is a bit thicker than the Chad or Raj crafts so that made it look fake to me along with the almost perfectly centered foreground object.

I felt that it most likely was someone testing to see if they can pull of a hoax and see how gullible we all are.
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« Reply #352 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:23pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 8:20pm, onthefence55 wrote:
Nothing useful as far as distance, just the usual hoax/real test for shadows etc. Finally gave up because of lack of story behind it.

The crafts ring is a bit thicker than the Chad or Raj crafts so that made it look fake to me along with the almost perfectly centered foreground object.

I felt that it most likely was someone testing to see if they can pull of a hoax and see how gullible we all are.


The "feelers" on top are different in shape to, if I may add.
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« Reply #353 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:28pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:02pm, starsigndavid wrote:
Ok, I see. Anal people like me who like to see things nicely resolved and tied up in neat little bundles, after a period of time, better get used to lingering uncertainty! Damn, it is so unlike law and politics, where we debate, advocate, vote and then move on, come Hell or high water, be we right or wrong! Impatience is a VERY bad trait to have where UFOlogy is concerned! wink


David:

One of the BIG problems on the UFO scene is that when you have eyewitness accounts, photos, films is this:

A LOT of people do not believe even when they see the evidence.

To understand that we have been VISITED by beings from outer space, for us, there's no MAYBE about it. UFOs are REAL.

You're one of those that believe.
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« Reply #354 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:35pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 8:07pm, Latitude wrote:
Ok before anybody gets their panties up into a wad, let me explain. Right after the news broke about the Steven sighting, one of the first things I did was to check the weather report for that area. What they had that day is very typical for this coastal area. Fog/overcast lifting and burning off in the afternoon. That's your white sky. Remember that I live out here and have spent much time in the Santa Cruz and San Jose area.

edit to add: Yes ATO is correct that San Jose is very bad for smog I'm sure this was a factor too.


Fog is the first thing someone would assume but the trees are fairly visible so the fog would have been moving out. Just the same, remnants of fog mince with a photochemical smog and you'll have an extremely white sky. That's what makes it so much worse too for the Central California people because the fog is a carrier for photochemical smog.

You can see a photochemical smog in the following picture. Look at the foothill in the background. It's not green like it should be normally. And, it's not smokey brown either like a regular smog.

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« Reply #355 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:36pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:41pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
I don't remember exactly why but it lost interest and died. Anyone want to kick up the drone with the irrigation head?


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When I look closely the air around the drone seems to be seperated in red and blue rings? Is that just my screen or is it really there. I saw a photo once of a similar affect around a microwave tower in the california hills I believe it was.
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« Reply #356 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:37pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:34pm, castles4me wrote:
WHO CARES ABOUT KEITH EDWARDS..... Urantia, PLEASE... this isn't Isaac, and who gives a flying flip what he has in his resume huhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh?
sorry, but this conversation was over LONG ago. rolleyes


Hey Castles.....you've been at this quite a bit the last three weeks.

Maybe try to take a half day off and get some chores done, get some fresh air/sunshine or have some iced tea and cookies.

I'm worried you're a bit over worked on the Forum thing.
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« Reply #357 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:40pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 8:35pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Fog is the first thing someone would assume but the trees are fairly visible so the fog would have been moving out. Just the same, remnants of fog mince with a photochemical smog and you'll have an extremely white sky. That's what makes it so much worse too for the Central California people because the fog is a carrier for photochemical smog.

You can see a photochemical smog in the following picture. Look at the foothill in the background. It's not green like it should be normally. And, it's not smokey brown either like a regular smog.




ATO: Your analysis is 100% correct about the weird effect that photo-chemical smog gives to things in the distance.

That's why the Ty photos look the way they do, IMO.
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« Reply #358 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:45pm »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:35pm, DdP wrote:
Thxs for the warm welcome. I did translate some of your findings/remarks etc.. MarkM, ATO, Urantia606, BW... Actually a couple of your topics (*) are visited and scanned every hour by a Firefox Plugin tool.
Did you release the report on that "drone with a tripod in a field".. which was supposed to be published the next day or so...?

(*) This one and the San Diego lights.


San Diego lights - you must be speaking of beenie weenie.

Good luck with your site across the big pond and keep plugging away DdP. grin grin
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« Reply #359 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 8:53pm »

I think it's about time we all started lobbying LMH for more info on this thing.

She's been promoting this event, profiting from it and keeping key evidence to herself (like the high res image).

I don't believe that she's too busy with other stories to focus on this one. How is a fable about a cow eating crab-scorpion alien more important than this?

Many of her reports tend to be quite vague and lack any relevant references or evidence. For example, the report about mutilated kangaroos in Australia. She intentionally omitted the fact that the kangaroos were savagely beaten to death - not surgically sliced up. So why omit the facts and present the story as if it were alien cattle mutiliation on kangaroos?

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