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« Reply #405 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 06:24am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 10:47pm, bakosawa wrote:
Any guesses why his drone is creating a whiter background?


The whiter area is not centered on the craft, so it is probably just an issue with the brighter sky in that area.

More curious was the rings noticeable during a threshold test on the various separated colors.

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However, that is most likely an an issue with the way the camera creates the JPEG compressed image as shown in a sample from the same type of camera:

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« Reply #406 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 06:38am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 05:24am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
[center]Okay you three,- get in your respective corners.


May I respectfully submit, the Hillbilly timeout...






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« Reply #407 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 06:45am »

I love that one. I got that in an email recently. How funny. I love jokes and pictures like that. I'm behind by a month but I have a joke group with my email so I get tons. I have over 100 sitting in my saved mail area unsent - long story.

That's how I like to wake up in the morning though, with jokes. Check this out sometime. Gotta read the beaver story for sure if you haven't yet. It's on page 1, it's boring at first but you have to read the whole thing and it'll have you rolling. It is the funniest thing I've ever read.

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« Reply #408 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 06:51am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 06:24am, onthefence55 wrote:
The whiter area is not centered on the craft, so it is probably just an issue with the brighter sky in that area.

More curious was the rings noticeable during a threshold test on the various separated colors.

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However, that is most likely an an issue with the way the camera creates the JPEG compressed image as shown in a sample from the same type of camera:

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Take a look at this version I put up the other day...

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All of these photos are from:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/bigbasin.html

You will get the bull's eye affect if click on the photo and use the enlargement.

There is no substitute for the original photo (each change adds its own bias).
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« Reply #409 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 07:11am »

son Jul 19th, 2007, 06:24am, onthefence55 wrote:
The whiter area is not centered on the craft, so it is probably just an issue with the brighter sky in that area.



onthefence, you are right again. smiley

Then I see a paradox between the two sets of photos.

One (Ty) that contains a white sky with very detailed (but not well shadowed) craft over direct sun lit trees... taken in the fog.

The other (Steven), not detailed craft on a blue sky with normal haze in the background (with the brighter part of the sky always directly ahead of the camera - yea, I looked at the fuzzy pic and the craft is to the left of the whiter area). I have to place these back into the “it could be good” shelf.

I am still wrestling with the totally white sky in the Ty shots, darker craft (like it is in the shade and then brightened), and the trees that are in the direct sunlight.

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This just jumps out to me... (due to the difference in shadow darkness).

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« Reply #411 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 07:30am »

Similarity?
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« Reply #412 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 07:42am »


Coast to Coast had Whitley Strieber and Linda Moulton Howe on last night. Did they happen to drone on about the drones? Did anyone listen?
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« Reply #413 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 07:55am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 06:51am, bakosawa wrote:
Take a look at this version I put up the other day...
Thank you for pointing that out again.

It made me think about that bullseye. I had originally assumed that it was just the sunlight which would have placed it in the same location on both clear BB images. However, after comparing the two images using my threshold technique -- The center of the light appears to be changing with respect to the center of the photo:

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Also, the center of the light appears to be changing with respect to the center of the craft in this image where I lined the trees up for both animated frames:

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Is this simply a "lens-flare" or reflection issue with the Sun and camera?
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« Reply #414 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 07:55am »

I have an idea…

For those have the ability to create a gif…

If you can overlay these two and have them fade back and forth… (line up the three points of the tree tops on the right)

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Playing with this, I notice something odd.

1. The observer states the craft just hovers and only rotates. This seems to be true.
2. The observer is either approaching or backing away.
3. Maybe we can get an idea of size? It looks closer and smaller than reported.
4. The craft does a weird pitch/yaw not reported.

Latitude? onthefence?
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« Reply #415 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:18am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 07:55am, bakosawa wrote:
1. The observer states the craft just hovers and only rotates. This seems to be true.
2. The observer is either approaching or backing away.
3. Maybe we can get an idea of size? It looks closer and smaller than reported.
4. The craft does a weird pitch/yaw not reported.


1. The craft hovers, rotates, and moves.
2. Possibly the observer moved or zoomed in for about half of the shots, but I think it's pretty clear that the craft does move a bit (as well as obviously rotating).
3. Accurate size will be hard to determine since the craft never seems to go in front of the trees.
4. I'm not too sure about the pitch and yaw since the camera angle seems to be tilted in a few shots. You'll have to rotate the images to line up and I think you'll see that no such pitching takes place.

Here's an animation I previously made using all the low-res Ty images, all images are aligned as close as possible to the trees:

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« Reply #416 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:21am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 10:19pm, bakosawa wrote:
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I see a halo of lightness with the craft in the center. One sees fog, I see a craft always placed on a white field.

That could be a mircowave field that the digital cam records.
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« Reply #417 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:29am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 08:18am, onthefence55 wrote:
1. The craft hovers, rotates, and moves.
2. Possibly the observer moved or zoomed in for about half of the shots, but I think it's pretty clear that the craft does move a bit (as well as obviously rotating).
3. Accurate size will be hard to determine since the craft never seems to go in front of the trees.
4. I'm not too sure about the pitch and yaw since the camera angle seems to be tilted in a few shots. You'll have to rotate the images to line up and I think you'll see that no such pitching takes place.

Here's an animation I previously made using all the low-res Ty images, all images are aligned as close as possible to the trees:

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If you just look at t the two photos posted... the craft either leans or it is a lot smaller a closer than one may think. It shows up better full sized.

Have you seen all of these?

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507aa.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507bb.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507cc.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507dd.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507ee.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507ff.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507gg.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507hh.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507ii.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507jj.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507kk.jpg

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/D/DroneBigBasinTy060507ll.jpg

Guess you have, since you have 12 in the gif.
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« Reply #418 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:33am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 9:30pm, leviathan6 wrote:
Here is an atempt to enhance the Drone/Tripod photo:
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The leg on the left seems to be adjusted slightly different from the right. Perhaps compensating for the terrain in order to keep it perfectly plumb.

The roundish object at the lower centre of the shaft may have a relationship to the spike that hangs down from the centre of the drones. It is similar in shape.

Also, I think that the drones are enveloped in radiation which sometimes appears as layers in the atmosphere on digital photographs.
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« Reply #419 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:38am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 01:35am, swiftjustice wrote:
For goodness sake, what would you all do if a real other-world Alien landed in your back yard?


Well ... I'd send him over to your house, of course.

I usually don't respond to shotgun wielding folks who think that I'm irrational, but, I made an exception for you since you obviously put a great deal of thought into your post. I especially enjoyed reading all of the research and analysis that led to your proclamation. Lord knows none of us have put any effort into studying this.

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