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« Reply #420 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:39am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 07:55am, onthefence55 wrote:
Thank you for pointing that out again.

It made me think about that bullseye. I had originally assumed that it was just the sunlight which would have placed it in the same location on both clear BB images. However, after comparing the two images using my threshold technique -- The center of the light appears to be changing with respect to the center of the photo:

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Also, the center of the light appears to be changing with respect to the center of the craft in this image where I lined the trees up for both animated frames:

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Is this simply a "lens-flare" or reflection issue with the Sun and camera?
Excellent post.
Your animation shows that the field is emminating from the aft section of the drone. More specifically the prongs.
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« Reply #421 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 08:58am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 08:29am, bakosawa wrote:
If you just look at t the two photos posted... the craft either leans or it is a lot smaller a closer than one may think. It shows up better full sized.

Have you seen all of these?


Yes, I've seen them all.

When comparing photos "kk" and "ll", the angles of the background trees have changed as well as the craft. In all there is only a 6.45-5.12 = 1.33 degree difference between the craft angle on both images. Considering that the camera was moved as seen by the extra amount of trees visible in "ll" (same crop size as "kk"). I would say that it is difficult to notice any yaw/pitch.

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« Reply #422 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:00am »

Please go to the 3:00 mark and listen to the description this man gives. Does anyone else find this similar to the longer ams of the drones?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1jZDc8swA&NR=1

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« Reply #423 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:03am »

Try gifting these two at full size...

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The two tree tops on the top picture line up with the left two on the bottom.
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« Reply #424 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:05am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 08:21am, AgentM wrote:
That could be a mircowave field that the digital cam records.


The microwave portion of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum is far outside the sensitivity of a digital camera. However, Digital cameras do see what our does not (in the InfraRed, and possibly somewhat into the Ultra-violet). So your idea of seeing invisible fields is possible if those fields are IR and UV.
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« Reply #425 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:11am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 09:00am, becker44 wrote:
Please go to the 3:00 mark and listen to the description this man gives. Does anyone else find this similar to the longer ams of the drones?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1jZDc8swA&NR=1

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Definitely does. It's kind of refreshing to hear someone say that this was something being pursued in regards to reverse engineering and that the military had be wrestling with it for years. It fits with what CARET was doing.

If you buy Isaac, then there's some back up. If you think it's a hoax, I suppose you could say that he picked up the idea from this guy. In my opinion, it's a long way from what was said and the elaborate diagram and the drone "inscriptions". Think it was complex before? that would hit it even further out of the park!

What it comes down to is the proverbial "chicken or the egg" question".
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« Reply #426 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:12am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 05:58am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
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Thanks for that idea. I'm still searching on Google images for the EXACT model used in that photo.

However, most weather stations include an anemometer which this sighting seems to be missing:
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« Reply #427 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:14am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 08:58am, onthefence55 wrote:
Yes, I've seen them all.

When comparing photos "kk" and "ll", the angles of the background trees have changed as well as the craft. In all there is only a 6.45-5.12 = 1.33 degree difference between the craft angle on both images. Considering that the camera was moved as seen by the extra amount of trees visible in "ll" (same crop size as "kk"). I would say that it is difficult to notice any yaw/pitch.

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Keep looking... the geometry of the circles change and other angles... The double ring "waves" at you... as you flip between the two.
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« Reply #428 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:34am »

Back on page 25, bakosawa wrote: "… but the trees appear to be in direct sun light. Check out the dark shadows and bright green sun lit areas."

I was driving around this morning noticing that the sky was much like in the BB photos. White/grey sky (smog, ozone, pollution, no fog) but with enough sunlight filtering through to illuminate the trees and cast distinct shadows. So I am convinced that the white sky in the Ty BB photos with sunlight on the trees can happen.
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« Reply #429 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:42am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 09:34am, Nodnunk wrote:
Back on page 25, bakosawa wrote: "… but the trees appear to be in direct sun light. Check out the dark shadows and bright green sun lit areas."

I was driving around this morning noticing that the sky was much like in the BB photos. White/grey sky (smog, ozone, pollution, no fog) but with enough sunlight filtering through to illuminate the trees and cast distinct shadows. So I am convinced that the white sky in the Ty BB photos with sunlight on the trees can happen.


Hi Nodnunk,

I do not doubt white overcast skys... but if it is overcast or foggy enought to remove the dark shadows on the craft... why are they so dark on the trees?

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« Reply #430 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:42am »

To swiftjustice: When you do see one of these non-aerodynamic devices fly over your land, please do as you say, that way we who survive will be better able to understand the weaponry aboard this non-aerodynamic devise.
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« Reply #431 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:48am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 09:14am, bakosawa wrote:
Keep looking... the geometry of the circles change and other angles... The double ring "waves" at you... as you flip between the two.


Here's an animation between photos kk and ll with camera rotation corrected:

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I'll let you everyone draw their own conclusions.
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« Reply #432 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:53am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 09:42am, bakosawa wrote:
I do not doubt white overcast skys... but if it is overcast or foggy enought to remove the dark shadows on the craft... why are they so dark on the trees?


Probably because the craft is slightly higher in the sky and ground reflections wash out the shadows. This is what I mean:

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Notice the bright airplane underside and the sharp dark shadows on the near building.

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« Reply #433 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 09:55am »

on Jul 19th, 2007, 09:48am, onthefence55 wrote:
Here's an animation between photos kk and ll with camera rotation corrected:

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I'll let you everyone draw their own conclusions.


Great job onthefence!!

That explains what I was seeing... I should not have been using the trees as a reference point.

But since it appears that these photos were taken from two locations (and not simply zoomed)… can we now get an idea of the size?
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« Reply #434 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 10:00am »

Even if it is all a hoax? Man…it’s a good one. The Isaac / CARET stuff is all over the web. Pretty cool, actually.

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