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« Reply #660 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 4:36pm »

No offense, Bako, but that's a bad cut out job smiley!
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« Reply #661 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 4:36pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 2:42pm, LAU wrote:
After some analisys I can say that there is in fact chroma aberration, but it's not as strong as I first thought.
Almost no correction can be made by automatic tools.

My (new) oppinion is that this was a terribly dark photo that someone tried to add brightness to extract more detail.

The owner used the auto-equalize tool in the image.
The result is most similar to this:
The white is 100% white (sky), the black is 100% back, and some colors along the way became over-saturated (blues+reds)


The blue shadow is not consistant in the image. Not only does it have different angels, but there aren't any blue shadows in some areas. If software was applied that produced the blue edge, it would be evident in the brighter areas- it's just not totally consistant. Plus, you have these blue edges at different angels in the inset that are in the shadowed underside. I see this as something that needs more anaysis.
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« Reply #662 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 4:47pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 4:36pm, MarkM wrote:
No offense, Bako, but that's a bad cut out job smiley!


on Jul 20th, 2007, 4:27pm, bakosawa wrote:
I left some "artifacts" so you see a little bad change then a little better change that blends in... if I had the time and software... I can repro the whole thing no sweat.


I did not want to do a good job... cheesy I did not have the time. I just wanted to show how the outer edges looked "cut out." Look at the "ring" on the right that I cut off from the main body... the cut edge looks like the rest. It was easy to do with paintbrush. What if I had a real program (with some guts to it). rolleyes
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« Reply #663 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 4:50pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 4:34pm, MarkM wrote:
Fencesitter, I think you're missing a couple of important points in your analysis:

If this is hoax - the result of endless hours of work, organization, and cost - then logic dictates that there be a "pay off" of some sort at the end. This hoaxer (or group of hoaxers) has an ego, make no mistake about that. Recognition - for better or for worse - is part of the equation. There are those for whom infamy is just as acceptable as fame. A hoax of this scale is someone trying to prove that they are someone.

Hoax or reality, the missing piece is PURPOSE. What is the purpose behind the drones?

You also assume that should this be about disclosure, that humans are the ones orchestrating it. It could very well be ET pulling the curtain back in which case we have no idea when the real show will start or what the plot line may be.

I am, quite frankly, concerned about the silence from LMH and C2C. This, I think is indicative of something, but I'm not sure what.


Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply anything logically, just speculation...

On the hoax, sometimes, people hoax for personal enjoyment, and that's the payoff. Their own little secret is good enough for some. Most people want *some* kind of payoff, but I think the moment or at least the momentum is lost for that.

And on disclosure, I meant that as a separate thought - that even if real, this would not necessarily imply anything about an upcoming large government disclosure. I've seen so many posts that "this is it, this is going to make them come clean", I was implying that with no more 'evidence' their hand would not be forced, and it would eventually blow over.

Not trying to be a poo about the whole thing, just thinking the momentum for either a hoaxter to perpetuate this or an informant to come forward is slowing down, and that this trail is going cold for a while....
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« Reply #664 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 4:55pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 4:30pm, Latitude wrote:
They are not conclusions. They're only speculation. We can have fun, can't we?


/takes foot from mouth

Yes, and again, I didn't mean anything against the comments. It's natural to wonder out loud and guess about things... I just meant to observe that this was more the way the discussion was going and we've kind of hit a wall as far as digging for facts goes without more material to pour over.
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« Reply #665 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:03pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 4:33pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
That's interesting. I find it unlikely that Isaac discovered the use of integrated circuits though.

I really like the name of his website. It takes (you know what) to put that kind of name in your companies logo. He must have had a pretty large following over the years in the industry to be able to do that and get away with it.

I checked his Board of Directors and they're all your average Joe's. They even have an ex-Walmart executive on the board.
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Let me explain what this company does.

They research applications that use RFID. That's Radio Frequency Identification.

This is exactly what was researched at PARC by using alien artifacts. And this relates directly to the writing on the BB Drone.

This is what Isaac is talking about and this is one of the commercial and military and communications and other applications of alien technology. Hense the name.

I believe that their RD engineers are former PARC employees.

Alien Techology is in Morgan Hill which is near Palo Alto which is the headquarters of..........................PARC.....XEROX Research...........which is the place where many of the CARET Program employees formerly worked................it all fits together.

H E L L O.................
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« Reply #666 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:16pm »

Unless someone here can verify an established link between "Isaac" and the BigBasin Drone pictures, where we actually are able to see scematics similar to the scans of the laboratory created linguistic primer provided by "Isaac", I say <similar> as I see, they are not exactly match....and there are more than one plaque on this one hires picture, I find it hard to believe it all was created to make a lot of people look silly. If that was the point, why release it to C2C in the first place? I guess anyone would know, if this were to spread among UFO forums...it would only be a drop in the sea.

I'm pretty sure, if "Isaac" were to give out information like this, it HAD to be in an established forum that looks into anomalies, as he would meet the same barriers as many of us do, when we try to let the common man know what we know, through established media, aka mainstream news.

That said, if we do not get more information soon, this topic will divide and fluxuate, until it's deminished. You can only crunch down the same material once, then it slowly detiriates. From that point, only speculation rules.

The way forward is to determine the variety of plaques on the craft, if we were to obtain hires scans or hires pictures of the rest af the BB photo's, then we might have some clue, as these obviously show the other side of the craft, and there are more plaques there, as seen on the lowres pics already provided.


Keep up the good work,

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« Reply #667 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:24pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 5:03pm, urantia606 wrote:
Let me explain what this company does.

They research applications that use RFID. That's Radio Frequency Identification.

This is exactly what was researched at PARC by using alien artifacts. And this relates directly to the writing on the BB Drone.

This is what Isaac is talking about and this is one of the commercial and military and communications and other applications of alien technology. Hense the name.

I believe that their RD engineers are former PARC employees.

Alien Techology is in Morgan Hill which is near Palo Alto which is the headquarters of..........................PARC.....XEROX Research...........which is the place where many of the CARET Program employees formerly worked................it all fits together.

H E L L O.................


It quite a leap. This is on wiki:
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A very early demonstration of reflected power (modulated backscatter) RFID tags, both passive and active, was done by Steven Depp, Alfred Koelle and Robert Freyman at the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory in 1973
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

How long will it be before people begin carrying around Faraday Cages.

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« Reply #668 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:31pm »

I wholeheartedly agree that there needs to be a "break" here soon. That's part of what unsettles me about LMH and C2C. They were "hot" on this, then suddenly - zip. They're either investigating it behind the scenes, have been privy to the fact that it's a hoax and are reluctant to disclose that fact, or the have been asked to remain silent.

Any indication of activity from LMH - even if it's to report no activity, is better than ignoring it. An update would be appreciated. Yes, the latest crop circles are fascinating, but they aren't a new phenomenon - this is! How can these two high profile investigator / journalists (who make there living off of chasing these things down) suddenly be "over them"? Add to this all of the "big names" in the UFO community who are remaining mum, and I think we have a problem here!
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What is causing the parallel lines in the blue “feelers”?

Why isn’t this spike solid and straight (red arrow)?

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« Reply #670 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:33pm »

While on OMF I repeatedly said that saladbowl was in this to further his own work, the incorporation of his FAKES with the legitimate items proves my point. Now I AM A CG ARTIST and have been one for years. FOR THE RECORD: THE HI RES IMAGES ARE ASTOUNDING THEY WOULD REQUIRE VERY HIGH COUNT MESHES AND VERY GOOD TEXTURES AND AN EXCELLENT IMAGINATION. THEY WOULD REQUIRE TIME. THE INCORPORATION INTO A PHOTO WOULD REQUIRE A 3D PROGRAM TO CONTAIN AND REPOSITION THE MODEL IN ITS VIRTUAL 3D SPACE. THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK IF IT IS A HOAX. DOES ANYONE HEAR ME.
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« Reply #671 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:34pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 5:24pm, Latitude wrote:
How long will it be before people begin carrying around Faraday Cages.


Think about what you just said. Look up Faraday Cage. Possible reason for the "cage" under the BB drone? To protect that "needle" or whatever from electrostatic discharge or other damage?
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« Reply #672 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:39pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 3:52pm, urantia606 wrote:
I'm not the slightest bit worried about the reaction the world would have if UFOs were fully disclosed by the government..

The reaction: yawn..........

And then go back to watching the football game and thinking about what's for dinner.

99.999% of the population just doesn't give a damn.


I disagree 100% It's one thing to see Larry King talk about UFOs once a year or the local new channel discussing a UFO convention. Those can be passed off as jokes. It would be different if Uncle Sam came out and said UFOs exist and here's the proof! We the members of this forum could accept it. But John Q. Public would have a hard time dealing with the news. You'd have Shock, Outrage followed by Anger from those that just had the bombshell dropped on them. Not to mention what effect it would have on the religious community.
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« Reply #673 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:43pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 5:33pm, leviathan6 wrote:
While on OMF I repeatedly said that saladbowl was in this to further his own work, the incorporation of his FAKES with the legitimate items proves my point. Now I AM A CG ARTIST and have been one for years. FOR THE RECORD: THE HI RES IMAGES ARE ASTOUNDING THEY WOULD REQUIRE VERY HIGH COUNT MESHES AND VERY GOOD TEXTURES AND AN EXCELLENT IMAGINATION. THEY WOULD REQUIRE TIME. THE INCORPORATION INTO A PHOTO WOULD REQUIRE A 3D PROGRAM TO CONTAIN AND REPOSITION THE MODEL IN ITS VIRTUAL 3D SPACE. THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK IF IT IS A HOAX. DOES ANYONE HEAR ME.


Yeah, I hear you, loud and clear. Excuse me while turn down the volume. I agree with you. Maybe that guy earlier who was looking for Salad has a job offer for him.
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« Reply #674 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:51pm »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 5:33pm, leviathan6 wrote:
While on OMF I repeatedly said that saladbowl was in this to further his own work, the incorporation of his FAKES with the legitimate items proves my point. Now I AM A CG ARTIST and have been one for years. FOR THE RECORD: THE HI RES IMAGES ARE ASTOUNDING THEY WOULD REQUIRE VERY HIGH COUNT MESHES AND VERY GOOD TEXTURES AND AN EXCELLENT IMAGINATION. THEY WOULD REQUIRE TIME. THE INCORPORATION INTO A PHOTO WOULD REQUIRE A 3D PROGRAM TO CONTAIN AND REPOSITION THE MODEL IN ITS VIRTUAL 3D SPACE. THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK IF IT IS A HOAX. DOES ANYONE HEAR ME.


1. Saladfingers is nothing but a pain the backside. He yammers on and on and says really nothing. I ignore him.

2. I believe this is NOT a hoax for many reasons...almost too many to mention.
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