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« Reply #780 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:03am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 11:58pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
These are fractals and their beautiful





Here's a Wiki on fractals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal


Thanks for the link.

I agree, fractals are beautiful. They are natural too. I'd like to point out that I don't believe the shape of the crafts have to do with the fractals (although it's possible)... my comment was based on just the "language".

Since fractals are naturally occurring (presumably everywhere - meaning ice-crystals forming inside Pluto), it's more believable (to me anyway) that this technology could come from somewhere else.
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« Reply #781 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:04am »

Mandelbrot Fractals
http://encyclozine.com/Science/Mathematics/Fractals/Mandelbrot/

Right and/or left click on the picture
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« Reply #782 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:07am »


I know, nobody wanted to see this one.
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« Reply #783 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:07am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:04am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Mandelbrot Fractals
http://encyclozine.com/Science/Mathematics/Fractals/Mandelbrot/

Right and/or left click on the picture


I've played with that java app before....... and, much like I just did now...I got dizzy, and couldn't find my way back!
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« Reply #784 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:10am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:04am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Mandelbrot Fractals
http://encyclozine.com/Science/Mathematics/Fractals/Mandelbrot/

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This is sweet! So think of a "letter" in the "language" as being a curve or line or group of pixels in these fractals. Put a "letters" together and you have a specific system that repeats the same specific process that can be simple or extremely complex. If one piece is off or wrong, the outcome will be wrong and nothing will work correctly.

That's the best I can do in explaining this... Maybe I'm on to something maybe not. I'm just trying to look at this at as many angles as possible. cool
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« Reply #785 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:11am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 11:57pm, Keith wrote:
I came here to do some serious reading, research, and add my 2 cents worth. I got convinced to jump back to the correct side of the fence after getting a link to the hi-res shot(thank you). Now I spent an hour catching up on 12 pages of mostly soap opera stuff. Come on folks, lets focus on the mission- analysis and constructive conversation. Besides, the agency spies are having to spend too many of our tax payer dollars wading through useless information. grin Lets get on with it.


I agree Keith! In my opinion this is what separates Casebook from some other UFO forums. Great members, stirring debate. If only some folks wouldn't come in closed minded and with an agenda. I get tired of blanket statements! Dan
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« Reply #786 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:14am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 6:35pm, Latitude wrote:
Hey pvtjoker, btw is your nic in reference to Full Metal Jacket?

You beat me to the post. I'll just add that none of Salad's drones have ever come close to the realism in the Chad Raj photos. Sure, his LAP diagrams were quite good copies, but that is just what they are, copies. It showed no creativity.

What salad has done is become a tool for the debunkers. He claims it was not his intention but he continues to pursue those things. Then there was the day right after the Isaac story broke where he launched his most extreme attack on the believers calling them jackasses being led by a caret.

So do not let his benign appearance fool you. He's the strongest debunker force on OMF.



you got me, FMJ is my favorite movie of all time cool

I agree with you though about saladfingers though
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« Reply #787 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:17am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 11:51pm, BigThinker wrote:
I was thinking about the "language" used on these crafts (plus Issac's documents) and something came to mind that I don't think anyone has touched on yet... Fractals.

This came to mind after reading about how Issac explained how the language worked via "you can't use the same letter twice" kinda thing. I got this picture in my head of starting with something small (a simple piece of math) that does something and then mixing it with another simple small piece of math and having it functionally and programmatically build complex structures or in this case complex "code" to run structures. Replace the simple math with these symbols/language/whatever it is and it's the same kind of idea.

It's really hard for me to explain this... and I haven't even fully grasped my own idea, but I thought I'd throw this out there for you all. Maybe we have a math major out there who can say "yay" or "nay" to this idea and/or expand on it.


Well, I'm going to ask you to take your time - even a day or so and try to come up with an analogy if you could that better defines what you're trying to say because I think it's important that we hear you and understand what it is you are thinking. Did I make sense just now? Hope so.
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« Reply #788 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:21am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:17am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Well, I'm going to ask you to take your time - even a day or so and try to come up with an analogy if you could that better defines what you're trying to say because I think it's important that we hear you and understand what it is you are thinking. Did I make sense just now? Hope so.
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Yes, you make sense. I'm off to bed now and I'll think it over for a bit. I know it's not a complete idea yet, but I wanted to get it out there in case someone saw the basis of what i was thinking and had an "ah-hah!" moment. Maybe someone in mathematics.
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« Reply #789 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:25am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:21am, BigThinker wrote:
Yes, you make sense. I'm off to bed now and I'll think it over for a bit. I know it's not a complete idea yet, but I wanted to get it out there in case someone saw the basis of what i was thinking and had an "ah-hah!" moment. Maybe someone in mathematics.


Nothing can be more confusing then the following though and we have an analogy on it so I think you'll be able to come up with something over the days to come. Or another member will read what we've written and come up with something maybe so check back.

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First of all, you wouldn't open up their hardware to find a CPU here, and a data bus there, and some kind of memory over there. Their hardware appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much] closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big holographic computational substrate - each "computational element" (essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say its holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you want and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole system. They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped. So 4 elements working together is actually more than 4 times more powerful than 1. Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state. The shape of these "chunks" of substrate also had a profound effect on its functionality, and often served as a "shortcut" to achieve a goal that might otherwise be more complex.
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« Reply #790 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:36am »

weird that the term "fractals" came up. I was having a conversation with some friends about the universe and trying to convey the idea that this universe/omniverse could be described as fractal....from atoms to solar systems to galaxies to universe(s). They didn't get it though huh
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« Reply #791 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:46am »

I like this quote:

If there is something wrong with me......perhaps there is something wrong with the Universe......

Makes sense to me.
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« Reply #792 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 12:47am »

Hello, andyEastCoast.

The date on the MUFON report is May 16, 2007. It obviously doesn't include the bulk of the material, and is based only on the first few images. I think it's somewhat premature. I'd like to know however, if they're examining the 'case' now or not.

Although it has probably happened, I don't recall seeing any discussion on this forum, or OMF with regard to the particular discrepancies pointed out in the report. If this has occurred, I would appreciate the relevant posts being pointed out to me.

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« Reply #793 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 01:01am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:54am, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
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Hello Central:

I noticed the first two requirements shown above. I better not mention names but that's a tough one .


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on Jul 21st, 2007, 01:01am, urantia606 wrote:
Hello Central:

I noticed the first two requirements shown above. I better not mention names but that's a tough one .


Nite, nite all.


hahaha.. why do I see a NOT so hidden dig in there somewhere..

nite.


OK....... we now return you to our regularly scheduled program?
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