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« Reply #795 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 03:11am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 6:54pm, DrDil wrote:
Regarding, “Calm down.” I’m genuinely sorry, I'm just used to talking to you in the manner in which you address me. (e.g. Dil)

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I was under the impression this was the, “Cutting edge” of RFID, not the BB Drone.

I have read up on it and still don’t understand, in short, and respectfully, could you please tell me:

How this is alien technology?
How this is exactly what was researched at PARC by using alien artefacts?
How you arrived at the decision that this is what Isaac is talking about?
How this is one of the commercial and military and communications and other applications of alien technology (when it has being around since the 1930’s)?
How this relates directly to the writing on the BB Drone?


Many thanks (and no large letters)

“Dil.”


DrDil:

I'm also very familiar with RFID technology -- have seen RFID tags being created and even wrote an article about it once. You're correct about it. RFID technology is still even not really well-constructed. The circuits are usually encased in padded paper or something like that, but a direct hit with a fork lift and they can break and then they aren't very useful. RFID really isn't mysterious or sinister in any way. They are used primarily for inventory tracking.

I don't believe PARC was ever involved in RFID and it certainly wasn't back-engineered from alien technology.

Excuse me if I sound shrill or desperate. I don't feel that way.

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« Reply #796 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 03:27am »

on Jul 20th, 2007, 8:11pm, bakosawa wrote:
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No one is interested in analysis anymore !
Most of the people of this forum only want to FIGHT among themselves for ideias.
It that's the case, I'm backing up from posting until this forum it gets back to a constructive way of thinking, or in alternative, I find a better forum to work.

I also have some posts that gone completely lost in the middle of fights and no one read them.
It was a completely waste of time... but I'm learning fast?

Back to your post ... can you please explan in a different way?
I see nothing unusual. What do you see I can't see?
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« Reply #797 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 05:23am »

Everybody's sleeping in.

What is your opinion: Has anybody established whether ET's shut down to sleep like we do? It seems a terrible waste of time. Perhaps they have evolved beyond the need for shut eye.
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« Reply #798 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 05:34am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 03:27am, LAU wrote:
No one is interested in analysis anymore !

It’s not really an analysis as such but more of an observation; I was wondering what other forum members take was on this image or perhaps more importantly it’s intended use and position.

I always thought when looking at the original (lo-res) Big Basin pictures that this strut (for want of a better word) was actually on the top of the main paddle, but since the release of the hi-res version it appears that it’s on the side and may not even be attached to the paddle but rather the main ring.

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I also believe that it’s exclusive to the Big Basin images and can’t figure out its actual position or even hazard a guess at a possible use.
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« Reply #799 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 05:42am »

To me it looks like a "shoe" (as on many of our cameras) where additional attachments are connected.
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« Reply #800 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 05:47am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 05:42am, Nodnunk wrote:
To me it looks like a "shoe" (as on many of our cameras) where additional attachments are connected.

And what about its position?
Unless it's moving (and I don't think it is) one of these images is an optical illusion, or at the very least a weird angle, giving the impression of being in two different places.

Could well be just me, I’ve been working with the hi-res picture that much I can see the outline when I close my eyes!!
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« Reply #801 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 07:53am »

I don't doubt that a lot of pieces of the drones are capable of movement.
I expect the spikes can move around the circumference of the rings.
The center of the BB drone dual rings can iris (compare the Stephen and Ty photos)
The curved prongs on the bottom cage of the BB drone are hinged and can swing down.
The large ring attached to the drone on the end opposite the "shoe" can swing laterally.
So I wouldn't be surprised that the "shoe" itself can move.
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« Reply #802 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 08:15am »

In answer to Dr Dil's question about what Linda told David Cayton and myself in our caravan,the following is a summary;

In April, 1983, Linda Moulton Howe, who had just produced an excellent documentary about cattle mutilations called Strange Harvest, was contacted. At the time she was working on a new script for Home Box Office on UFOs.

The night before the contact she met with researcher and attorney Peter Gersten. Gersten, who had played a prominent role as an attorney forcing out UFO documents using the Freedom of Information Act, told Howe that he had met with the same person that she would meet with - Richard C. Doty, an AFOSI agent at Kirtland AFB.

When Howe got to Kirtland, Doty took her to a small office where he handed her a brown envelope and said, "My superiors have asked me to show you this." He withdrew several sheets of white paper from an envelope, and handed them to her. She could not keep them or take notes, but she could read the pages and ask questions.

The document was titled Briefing Paper for the President of the United States of America. It described UFO crashes, alien bodies, and an alien who survived one of the crashes. The paper listed several government UFO projects. Linda described being given the document to read,

He (Doty) said my superiors have asked me to show you a document that you can read. You cannot take notes, and I want you to move from the chair you are sitting in – I want you to move to the chair in the center of the room…but as I look at that page which was dramatically all caps, typing where the type is in the paper. It said - each line was centered on the page- “BRIEFING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON THE SUBJECT OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL VEHICLES.”
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« Reply #803 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 08:33am »

I was thinking about the tag line Starsigndavid attaches to his posts:

Only by arrogance and ignorance does Man believe He is alone in the Cosmos.

May I offer the following thoughts. According to our own home grown Earthside astrophysics, it has been 13.7 billion years since the Big Bang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe

Our Sun and the solar system were formed about 4.6 billion years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_system#Formation

We humans (Homo sapiens) have been around only about 200,000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

The time from the Big Bang until the formation of our Sun was about 9.1 billion years. Just about twice the 4.6 billion years it took the Earth to evolve to the present day. What kinds evolution could have been happening elsewhere during those 9 billion years, before our Sun even formed? Then add to that the 4.6 billion minus 200,000 years to reach the dawn of Man as we know him. Lots of time for several early technological civilizations to colonize the galaxy. The conclusion of this exercise is to realize that ET's may be more than a few thousand years ahead of us techonolgically, they may be billions of years ahead.
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« Reply #804 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 08:58am »

even if they are "only" 3000 years ahead ( which is less then the blink of an eye on the cosmic timescale ) they are lightyears ahead technology wise.....just look at what mankind has cooked up in the past 120 years.

( sidestep) I believe that mankind, or other intelligent races, have been on earth before. If you look at the impossible artefacts found it is possible that intelligent life gets wiped out every 150.000 years ( iceages). Is it possible that one or more of those races advanced far enough to escape earth and his iceage and is coming"home"every now and then ?
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« Reply #805 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 09:03am »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 08:15am, HUBCAP9 wrote:
In answer to Dr Dil's question about what Linda told David Cayton and myself in our caravan,the following is a summary;


Thank you for your time in explaining this, it is greatly appreciated. smiley I know you are more than aware of this, but for those who aren’t.

We were referring to the same footage, it (and its predecessor) has the been used as bait at least three/four times that I know of.

This particular carrot (CARET?) has been dangled amidst claims that the government was now ready to release all the facts about the alien presence on earth along with a film of the live alien that allegedly had lived in a Los Alamos safe house from 1949-1952.

I.e. Photographs and films of UFOs, 800 feet of film showing a landed encounter between three aliens and Holloman Air Base officials during a landing that had reportedly occurred there in May 1971, several thousand feet of additional UFO footage and the real NASA smoking gun comprising of photos of UFOs taken by astronauts, which NASA had officially, publicly and vehemently denied the existence of.

The Holloman film was first brought up with Emenegger and Sandler by Paul Shartle and Col. Lane from AFOSI.

I believe the chronological order that A UFO film was offered is,

1955-56 – Walt Disney
1972-73 - Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler
1983 – Linda Moulton Howe
1985 - Robert Emenegger

Again, many thanks.
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« Reply #806 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:06am »

Here is another look...

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These vertical lines are through out the photo in places along edges... I love the panda collection too (red arrow).

Any ideas yet as to why a real photo would have these?
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« Reply #807 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:15am »

I have been following these reports since the beginning, and as you all know the Casebook main site has published many reports on the Drone mystery. A number of these have been positive, yet there have been a number of those who are reluctant to come all the way over to the believer side.

Let's be honest, to say "I want to believe," and really believing are two different things. Personally, I am still waiting for more evidence before I make my mind up 100% one way or the other, and lets keep in mind that there are other things happening in the world of UFOs.

It would be a great big feather in all of our caps if this thing turns out to be the "real thing." But, until then, all I am saying is keep an open mind, and weigh all the evidence.

I received an email this morning with a grey scale rendering of the recent Big Basin photos, and with some comments that are worthy to consider.

See next post with photo and reader comments.
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« Reply #808 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:20am »

Moderator note: BJ I edited this in order to put both pictures side by side for an easier comparison.

The new high resolution picture of this object has some unusual "fixes". I have attached a greyscale negative image of the second picture. Notice the ligher grey areas in the picture that don't show up in the normal image. They suggest that a clone brush has been
used to paint out areas of the picture.

If the picture was unretouched, none of that would appear. I think if there is any evidence of retouching, the picture is suspect.

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« Reply #809 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:29am »



Well, it looks like we have a new job for OnTheFence. What do you think?
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