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« Reply #855 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 1:49pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 1:26pm, Latitude wrote:
When we were in the middle of this drone case I was somewhat worried. I had thoughts like "what if this is a precursor to some sort of disaster"?


Actually it could be a precursor to disaster. Not too far in the distant future either. It's odd but it's as if the producer of the video was saying at the 5:00 minute mark that it's time to wake up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlYmO4S_Dkk

Apophis" is its name, and it will do a fly by around April 13, 2029, and if it 'keyholes' will have a 1 in 10,000 odds chance at impacting on its next pass in 2036

The aliens have the possibility of doing two things. 1. Putting it in the path of destruction or 2. Tapping it out of the path of destruction for hundreds and hundreds of years to come giving mankind time to be able to do the same some day.

SPACE.com talks with NASA re: Apophis
http://www.space.com/news/051103_asteroid_apophis.html.
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« Reply #856 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:07pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 11:21am, DrDil wrote:
And hereís another one, maybes this is to hold the two smaller rings in place? But if that was the case then why are the sections that link the much larger rings a great deal smaller than this.

After looking at the image for quite a while I still canít discern if it has nothing to do with the two smaller rings, or if is it attached to the outer of the small rings or both of them?


Taking a closer look at the two rings in all pictures. I think that the rings are each connected separately to the main hub and they are not attached to each other in series.

The connection is probably electrical since mechanical connections are achieved by RSR/Component mode as described the CARET documents.

Also, the outer ring appears to be slightly elevated above the plane of the next inner ring. This probably has to do with the shape of that connecting piece.

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« Reply #857 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:28pm »

I will entertain the possibility that this is CG when I see it reproduced and a photo of the mesh that was used. Also the name of the software and the UV maps and textures used (not a saladman kinda, maybe model). Since this thing started I have modeled Drone after Drone in the latest version of Cinema 4D. The basic shape comes out fair, but the lighting is difficult. I do not say I have the greatest ability in the world, but I have experience and some degree of ability. I can not reproduce these objects to the degree of perfection that I see in the originals. If we see them reproduced to that degree in this or any other forum, we will have found the hoaxer. The high resolution object is higher in quality than is needed in a motion picture model. This is my opinion. So let the person who can duplicate this step forward and then we will all realize that all pictures of any event forward will be subject to the CG inquisition and this will establish a legal precedent too.
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« Reply #858 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:34pm »

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This is a total fake I made some time back in Cinema 4D.
Would it pass? No, not even with a good UV map applied. Why? Because it is a real FAKE.
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« Reply #859 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:37pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:28pm, leviathan6 wrote:
I will entertain the possibility that this is CG when I see it reproduced and a photo of the mesh that was used. Also the name of the software and the UV maps and textures used (not a saladman kinda, maybe model). Since this thing started I have modeled Drone after Drone in the latest version of Cinema 4D. The basic shape comes out fair, but the lighting is difficult. I do not say I have the greatest ability in the world, but I have experience and some degree of ability. I can not reproduce these objects to the degree of perfection that I see in the originals. If we see them reproduced to that degree in this or any other forum, we will have found the hoaxer. The high resolution object is higher in quality than is needed in a motion picture model. This is my opinion. So let the person who can duplicate this step forward and then we will all realize that all pictures of any event forward will be subject to the CG inquisition and this will establish a legal precedent too.


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« Reply #860 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:45pm »

The earlier low-res images implied only two cages, upon closer view, I see three cages:

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« Reply #861 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:52pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 1:49pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlYmO4S_Dkk

Apophis" is its name, and it will do a fly by around April 13, 2029, and if it 'keyholes' will have a 1 in 10,000 odds chance at impacting on its next pass in 2036

The aliens have the possibility of doing two things. 1. Putting it in the path of destruction or 2. Tapping it out of the path of destruction for hundreds and hundreds of years to come giving mankind time to be able to do the same some day.

SPACE.com talks with NASA re: Apophis
http://www.space.com/news/051103_asteroid_apophis.html.


When I posted the 1 in 10,000 odds statement on that thread a couple weeks ago... I have to admit, I couldn't find the places that I had seen that estimate listed, but I do recall seeing it listed as 1 in 10,000 (or thereabouts) several times..just couldn't locate the pages (it might have even been in one of the articles written in "Time" Magazine, or "National Geographic"..or some other publication I picked up waiting in the doctor's office smiley

.... in any case, it's been mentioned that 1:10000 is not extremely high by most standards... but when you come up with 1:10000 in astronomical terms? vs the usual 1:100,000,000 odds.... that's pretty significant.

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« Reply #862 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:52pm »

Do you understand the complexity of modeling just the cage from scratch, not even mentioning the imagination. I do, because I have tried it in the same program used by Sony Pictures in their studio pipeline.
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« Reply #863 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:59pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:07pm, onthefence55 wrote:
Taking a closer look at the two rings in all pictures. I think that the rings are each connected separately to the main hub and they are not attached to each other in series.

The connection is probably electrical since mechanical connections are achieved by RSR/Component mode as described the CARET documents.

Also, the outer ring appears to be slightly elevated above the plane of the next inner ring. This probably has to do with the shape of that connecting piece.

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If you look at the top ring it does appear elevated in relation to the first ring, but it also appears that there is definitely a connector/clamp which looks like itís peeking over the top of the elevated ring, (bottom picture.)

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And in the top picture Iíve circled the join, however if you look at the bottom picture (as itís more apparent) it would also seem that itís a continuation of the paddle or strut that is visible in the first ring (if that makes any sense at all!)

The only reason I call it a paddle is that the impression I get is itís wider as viewed through the first ring then appears to narrow where itís adjoined to the second ring, much like the main paddle, and if it was just a smaller version then the second ring could be seated in between the sections.

And as for it being, ďSlightly elevated above the plane of the next inner ring and probably has to do with the shape of that connecting piece.Ē I feel that the paddle is positioned in an upwards angle and so if it was also joined to the second ring it could account for the elevated angle.

The main problem Iím struggling with is something youíve mentioned and thatís the RSR/Component mode. If this method was being incorporated then why the slim connecting pieces? To draw an exact correlation as suggested by Isaac could one not assume that the actual A1 device (i.e. the two-segment cylindrical core/with needle like appendages) is the body of the BB Drone, and the I-Beam segments which are linked to the antigravity generator in a RSR would in fact negate these connecting segments. Or do you perhaps think that was the intention, hence the reason they are so small as to almost be missed?

Did you see an earlier post when I wanted to erase the trees out of the high-res picture so I used the Photoshop fill command, but rather than use the existing background as a sample I used the standard, ďPhotoshop White,Ē and the result was a perfect match.

Iíve since searched the internet and apart from the BB images I canít find another picture of sky where this would be possible, even the whitest clouds I could find present the same problem of not blending in as perfectly.

Itís not that Iím trying to convince you of anything and I donít need convincing, itís just I feel you may be able to point me in the right direction for any relevant information/answers.

And even though itís of no real consequence, did you notice that in the description for fig 4.4 it refers to, ďLinked to the antigravity generator in an RSR.Ē The, ďAnĒ prefix should only be used when preceding a vowel, something I feel should have been picked up on in the environment in which the documents were released.
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« Reply #864 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 3:22pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:52pm, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
When I posted the 1 in 10,000 odds statement on that thread a couple weeks ago... I have to admit, I couldn't find the places that I had seen that estimate listed, but I do recall seeing it listed as 1 in 10,000 (or thereabouts) several times..just couldn't locate the pages (it might have even been in one of the articles written in "Time" Magazine, or "National Geographic"..or some other publication I picked up waiting in the doctor's office smiley
.... in any case, it's been mentioned that 1:10000 is not extremely high by most standards... but when you come up with 1:10000 in astronomical terms? vs the usual 1:100,000,000 odds.... that's pretty significant.


In Ancient Egyptian Religion, Apophis was a snake-god or demon of the underworld, symbolizing chaos, evil, darkness and non-existence. Apophis appear to have been introduced during the Middle Kingdom, there are no sources of his before this period.

So I guess we can now say that ancient religion was designed into the meteor based on the name that was chosen for it. It certainly symbolizes evil, darkness and of course non-existence.
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« Reply #865 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 3:41pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:59pm, DrDil wrote:
And even though itís of no real consequence, did you notice that in the description for fig 4.4 it refers to, ďLinked to the antigravity generator in an RSR.Ē The, ďAnĒ prefix should only be used when preceding a vowel, something I feel should have been picked up on in the environment in which the documents were released.


According to the Prentice Hall Handbook for Writers:
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a, an A is used before words beginning with a consonant sound, even when the sound is spelled with a vowel (a dog, a European, a unicorn, a habit). An is used before words beginning with a vowel sound or a silent h (an Apple, an Indian, an hour, an uproar).


From that description, I think that since "RSR" sounds like it begins with a vowel (Are-Ess-Are), that is would be normal to use the prefix "an".

PS. I'll get to the your other requests soon.
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« Reply #866 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 3:46pm »

Off topic:

Seems LMH has been in Crop Circle mode all week. The East Field Circle is her new baby. I think the drones take a back seat for now.

She makes a big point about the black helicopters and how the people on the scene were sickened by their appearance. She speculates that the helicopters emitted sub-sonics at the people and maybe some type of radiation.

I have a more likely and believable explanation. The helicopters likely were sent in to disperse the crowd and did so by gassing them with CS (tear) gas. In her interview the on site witness says that they saw no gas. But if the gas is under the turbulence of helicopter rotors, the gas would be dispersed to the point of being invisible.

The witness also mentions projectiles being launched by the helicopters. Gas grenades maybe? The witnesses describe burning of the eyes, nausea and a sulfur smell. I have been gassed many times and this exactly describes CS gas.
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« Reply #867 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 4:08pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:59pm, DrDil wrote:
Did you see an earlier post when I wanted to erase the trees out of the high-res picture so I used the Photoshop fill command, but rather than use the existing background as a sample I used the standard, ďPhotoshop White,Ē and the result was a perfect match.

Iíve since searched the internet and apart from the BB images I canít find another picture of sky where this would be possible, even the whitest clouds I could find present the same problem of not blending in as perfectly.


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A Google image search for: "overexposed white sky" turned up these, which I have added the maximum threshold below each. This threshold test is the only way to determine if all pixels are at maximum value of 255 like in the Ty images.

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It is my understanding that digital cameras have a very poor dynamic range (0-255) of colors when saving JPEG images. All UFO images should be shot using RAW image setting if the camera has that available.

The Ty images are very overexposed due to haze/smog and aiming the camera at the sky. I'm pretty sure that automatic exposure settings on the camera tried very hard to get a decent image while sacrificing dynamic range (white sky levels off at 255 max).

Also of importance was the note of LMH saying that someone "adjusted" the images for clarity. That's a shame, since it rendered these images only useful beauty and not scientific study.
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« Reply #868 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 4:17pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:59pm, DrDil wrote:
The main problem Iím struggling with is something youíve mentioned and thatís the RSR/Component mode. If this method was being incorporated then why the slim connecting pieces? To draw an exact correlation as suggested by Isaac could one not assume that the actual A1 device (i.e. the two-segment cylindrical core/with needle like appendages) is the body of the BB Drone, and the I-Beam segments which are linked to the antigravity generator in a RSR would in fact negate these connecting segments. Or do you perhaps think that was the intention, hence the reason they are so small as to almost be missed?


I have not commented on the parts that I have no comment on. That sounds like a Bushism smiley


RSR/Component mode sounds to me like it is a method for mechanical connections.

Electrical or plumbing connections may require some form of piping which would be the reason for the thin connection from the main hub to the other hubs.

The A1 device is only about 2 feet in length. If it is used in the BB craft then it is probably located internally.
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« Reply #869 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 4:29pm »

OK, I'm not an engineer so this is just a thought about the "insides" in relation to what we know:

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