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« Reply #1050 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 2:15pm »

Seems now my YouTube Drone video is being attacked by an overly zealous pro hoaxer. For some reason the drone case brings out the worst in some people. Why doesn't he instead go attack the Billy Meires Youtubes?
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« Reply #1051 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 2:23pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 2:05pm, DrDil wrote:
What do you think Mark, LMH warned off it or that she has conflicting information she don’t want to share?


Boy, I just don't know. With no new info it really makes me wonder. I would hope that if she found out something that indicated that this story wasn't legit that she'd have the journalistic integrity to report that.

The irony here is that this story has been red hot for so long (well, maybe we're down to orange these days) that if LMH and C2C would have kept it high profile their site traffic would have been through the roof. If nothing else they really lost an opportunity.

I have no idea what might be up with the Paranormal Cafe interview. All I know is that those that were lucky enough to catch it live said that she really opened up on the drone story. Kinda makes you wonder.
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« Reply #1052 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 2:28pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 2:05pm, DrDil wrote:
What do you think Mark, LMH warned off it or that she has conflicting information she don?t want to share?


Thanks to the Internet the Drone phenom is totally out of control. But this is a good thing.

I have met many of the professional UFO researchers and I like most all of them. I did find Travis Walton a bit reserved.

But, they are today somewhat irrelavent. Isaac does not need C2C or any other website....he has his own website and can release more info if he wants to.

Also, there are lots of people on the Forums that know as much or more about the Drones than the professionals.

The day is over when we all had to wait many years for books to be printed so that we could find out more about UFOs. Now we all have the Internet and new information is worldwide in mere seconds.

And I suppose that is the main reason we are so impatient with Isaac because he does not release more info immediately.

We used to have to wait many years and often decades for new information.

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« Reply #1053 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 2:44pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 12:58pm, castles4me wrote:
Well, if Ufaux was right, he would still be here defending it. When OTF posted, Ufaux darted out of here with his faux fur tail between his legs.

be patient my friend smiley ...
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« Reply #1054 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:13pm »

While we're being patient, maybe some would like to read the postings at the following address. This is a translation page so a few words will not be recognizable.

CLICK HERE
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« Reply #1055 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:19pm »

smiley Hi there!

I might have some interesting video clips here regarding that Drone! The questione still remains, "Is that Drone for real or is it made with the help of a Very Expensive Computer Animation?

@ RoH, thanks for telling me about Tread #4 because I landed accidentally in #3. Sorry about that.

@ Atrueoriginall, thanks for the message and yes, youīre right - I didnīt want to mentione that but yes your right, I didnīt read all the responses of your Threads, I know I should have but there was just toooooo much to read about it. So, once again, Iīm very sorry if I disrupted your scientific crowd of scientists sad Like I said, that Iīm not sure wether or not that Drone is for real or wether it was just made with the help of a very Expansive Computer Program.

I used to work part time in a comercial film firm, not only did they make expensive comercials for big VIP Firms but also did they make comecial Animations. Belive it or not, one such Animationīs program costs €20.000 Euros, thatīs something like $40.000 Can. Dollars "For a Computer Program"!!! And I saw what they did and could do and itīs phantastic.

I donīt mean to land in here as the bad guy, upsetting most of you - but I do need to be carefull about things. I myself have too, photographed many unusual UFOs, Objects, Orbs, Entitys and who knows what else and I too get once in a while a lot of critic on my photographs. Here below, youīll find a webalbum of mine, of my I call them Interdimensionall UFOīs and some of my Pyramid models, that I experimented with but thatīs besidīs the point.
http://picasaweb.google.com/AutumCreatorGod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob4mYh6Gqy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txuIClPhH4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBEYc5OUUtw

Through Computer AnimationÂīs, a lot of things can be easyly be made appear Real! I still have a hard time, believing this, that itÂīs for real because you know how the Military reacts, when they hear about a UFO and here we are, or someone is - possebly with disinformation fooling us. Clips or videos like those get confiscated immediatelly by the Air Force. HereÂīs the clip, of the "simple" model, flying near house roof tops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJiCxWUlgcY

Here again, The Flying CROSS close by, The simple craft or Drone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIfr12XhrZE

Now take a look at this OBJECT IN FLIGHT, if you can see the difference between the CROSS Orb/Drone and that one here! You hear even background sounds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64H1g6apQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xXdIJmjQFE
THIS IS INFORMATIV!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N1aJGuhRas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evlq8aCdfSA

...and there are many more clips still out there somewhere!
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« Reply #1056 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:28pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 3:19pm, Cheop wrote:
Atrueoriginall, thanks for the message and yes, youīre right - I didnīt want to mentione that but yes your right, I didnīt read all the responses of your Threads, I know I should have but there was just toooooo much to read about it.


It's just that this is so over done and everyone saw your post in the #3 Isaac thread yesterday. Like I mentioned over there, nobody has come close to duplicating or even coming close to duplicating the Big Basin drone. They cannot reproduce a drone that looks like the photo. If they can't reproduce the picture in the photo then it is impossible to do, is it not?

Again, you need to play catch up. You think you know based on your work. I already saw it yesterday and again, it's nothing more then cartoonish pictures with no detail.

You go out and try duplicating the Big Basin drone and bring your work in here. Meanwhile, could you please stop bringing in what we've all seen over and over again. grin

Here is what you'll be working with.
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« Reply #1057 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:34pm »

That Big Basin drone was seen in May of 2007.

The following was seen between the years of 1984-1987 and gives you more of a closeup to work with on some of the parts.

That's odd. I can't post the image now. Can someone else try and see if they can post the Isaac drone parts page in the forum. It appeared at first but then it disappeared.

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« Reply #1058 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:38pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 2:23pm, MarkM wrote:
Boy, I just don't know. With no new info it really makes me wonder. I would hope that if LMH found out something that indicated that this story wasn't legit that she'd have the journalistic integrity to report that.



Hear, hear!
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« Reply #1059 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:44pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 3:38pm, SwampGas wrote:
Hear, hear!


Mark, Swamp and the rest - that's just it. In regard to the drones, she wanted it to fall into her lap. We need to get it out of her lap and into someone else's hands. We just need an address for you know who.

Don't get me going on her right now because I'm livid. She depends on the opinions of others I think and so she dropped it. I think she feared the worse based on the nimrods in ufology and there it sits. Even BJ got various emails from others in the UFO community about it so I'm sure she did too.

Mark, you want to take a stab at it - asking her to give you the address or at least forward it to a ufologist that is willing to pick up the ball and run with it?
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« Reply #1060 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:47pm »

So what happened to our foxy faux? Is he hiding in his burrow?
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« Reply #1061 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:55pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 1:49pm, Marvin wrote:
The only problem with this, is that Isaac has given his blessing these photo as being real. Some of the components in his report are in some of these drone photos. If all of the drones are fake, it will not be a good thing. embarassed


Isaac could be in on it, orcastrating it, other than the photos, his explanation, and the LMH witnesses, what do we have? They could be working in concert together, one individual (not too likely) or a group.


As for the older photos (could even these be cgi? what is the oldest, any before cgi?) these could have been used as a starting point with cgi enhancement from that point on and the story contrived from there?

There is a video of an RC flying lawn mower, not cgi.

http://www.3d-nut.com/videos/skycutter40.wmv

Could a drone be someones RC adventure?


On the other hand it all seems just too complex for someone (even a group) to be orcastrating such an intricate hoax (but some are motivated and determined).



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« Reply #1062 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 3:59pm »

In regard to Faux - again, aptly named - his image was proven to be a fraud. Comparing the his res original to his submission it was clearly tampered with. It doesn't require much skill to drop a cloud over an image in Photoshop, this I know from decades of graphic design experience.

As far as I'm concerned this individual submitted a doctored image as legitimate. He did not claim that this "work" was done by anyone other than himself, therefore he accepts responsibility for that image. Once an individuals integrity is compromised in that way every word he writes, every picture he posts, is suspect.

IMHO he is here to do nothing but disrupt and deceive. This distracts from the open minded, meticulous work that continues to be done by our members on both sides of the drone investigation. I would suggest that he - and other insincere individuals - find themselves another playground.
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« Reply #1063 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 4:02pm »

on Aug 17th, 2007, 3:44pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Mark, Swamp and the rest - that's just it. In regard to the drones, she wanted it to fall into her lap. We need to get it out of her lap and into someone else's hands. We just need an address for you know who.

Don't get me going on her right now because I'm livid. She depends on the opinions of others I think and so she dropped it. I think she feared the worse based on the nimrods in ufology and there it sits. Even BJ got various emails from others in the UFO community about it so I'm sure she did too.

Mark, you want to take a stab at it - asking her to give you the address or at least forward it to a ufologist that is willing to pick up the ball and run with it?
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ATO and friends:

As you and all of us know ....the Drone story is much bigger than LMH and all of the other so-called professional reseachers.

I guess certain few are not paying attention to my historical reports of sightings I have read in old books. I have read hundreds of old sightings to be able to find a few that fit the description of the Drones.

But some are paying attention and I appreciate that.

What I am saying is this: Drones are NOT NEW and have been seen for over 200 years (and probably long before that).

The funny thing is that most 20 year olds read a book on UFOs and it is suddenly all new to them. They don't think long enough to realize that people have been studying and reporting UFOs for centuries.

The difference is that people did not have cell phone cameras in the 1850s.

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« Reply #1064 on: Aug 17th, 2007, 4:09pm »



Unfortunately, the problem is that these people pick up a situation and don't treat it like a business. Besides that they let petty personal situations get in the way.

This UFO Community of ufologist is an absolute joke in my eyes. You all saw the MUFON 2007 symposium posts by now.

159 pages 35,609 words of 2,608 paragraphs and the word drone was no where to be found in that report, which means they didn't even talk about it.

Member nekitamo said that, MUFON and Friedman are no longer nothing more then UFO historians and no longer UFO investigators and I entirely agree. That report was packed solid with MJ12 stuff. WHO CARES. That's history, we live today and in the future.
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