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« Reply #1170 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 3:25pm »

This might be something for the Experts in Ion drive...only in small size:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6946042.stm

Some time ago in this continued thread, this was discussed as a driving system for the drones:

Now, it's a cooling device for processors....Backengineered?

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« Reply #1171 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 4:39pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 06:30am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
He's right you guys.
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Hey, ATO :I am a "she"! even though i talk like a boy and don't appear as ladylike as you and castles4me are !
I've always been a tomboy,no reason to change now that old age is coming, its getting worst !(must be freedom)
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« Reply #1172 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 5:11pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 12:19am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
She has an ulterior motive for those pictures. Those pictures belong to the people, not to her. They're Tys photos and Ty gave them to her with the intention that she would be presenting them to the public on her website - right? Right!


I am three pages behind -- but yes, those are TY's photos, not hers!! I wish Ty would come forward... but yes, he sent them in to share with the public. Who cares what CGI person does or doesn't do, since when has that stopped serious UFO investigationhuh
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« Reply #1173 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 5:23pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 4:39pm, raska wrote:
Hey, ATO :I am a "she"! even though i talk like a boy and don't appear as ladylike as you and castles4me are !
I've always been a tomboy,no reason to change now that old age is coming, its getting worst !(must be freedom)


ATO and ME.. ladylikehuh? LOL LOL LOL shocked
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« Reply #1174 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 6:10pm »

Now, beat me if what I'm about to say isn't real:

The Drones are "simply" built using NANO Technology, therefore the "language" Isaac speaks of, only works in "Context" (As told by members in this thread, and Isaac Himself).

If we are to belive "Isaac", then the idea of NANO tech
are the most plausible explanation so far.

If the language are "self executable" when applied to the surface of the exotic matter (NANO) it WILL only work, and perform the tasks it was meant to rule.

Isaac said, only in "CONTEXT" and in a field...the desired events would unfold.

If we presume, that NANO tech in *1M2 are involved, and even higher, integrated periphals need absolutes, if missing just a symbol, the entire scheme or action will not respond.

Deduction: Mashine has to be given "exact" input - just as Isaac says, otherwise no action.

Just the simple action of NANO HAS to be "told" what to do, in exact terms.

The mashine is programmed to do "THIS ONE THING" interpreted by symbols, that are "written" to just that task.

Please re-read the entire site/letter Isaac wrote for us, keeping this in mind.

Then we see - this is the way this works, simple, but yet complex, if one tries to dechiffer the "Language".

They are bound together, only to perform the task given. And can't be tampered with.

Maybe that was what came out of the "CARET" investigation, therefore given to Commercial development, safe, because the original material
will only work in full "CONTEXT".

What derives from knowledge of technology, are safe to spawn.

Just my humble opinion, please chew on this,

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« Reply #1175 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 6:31pm »

EDIT: This is from page 57 on the #1 - MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED?? - ASK ISAAC, I added the tekst so it's better to understand the images I posted, they were out of context. - RoH

A working Turing machine?

Looking for answer to Isaac's diagrams on Wikipedia:

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Irreducible complexity
Isaac wrote:
The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently

Wikipedia:
The term "irreducible complexity" was originally defined by Behe as:
A single system which is composed of several interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, and where the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning". (Darwin's Black Box p9)

Intelligent design advocate William Dembski gives this definition:
A system performing a given basic function is irreducibly complex if it includes a set of well-matched, mutually interacting, nonarbitrarily individuated parts such that each part in the set is indispensable to maintaining the system's basic, and therefore original, function. The set of these indispensable parts is known as the irreducible core of the system. (No Free Lunch, 285)

Isaac:
However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another. The ability for a single, small symbol to contain, not just represent, tremendous amounts of data is another counter-intuitive aspect of this concept

Wikipedia:
A context-sensitive language is a formal language that can be defined by a context-sensitive grammar

Isaac:
Their hardware appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much] closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big holographic computational substrate.
- each "computational element" (essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say its holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you want and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole system. They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped.

Wikipedia:
Computational properties
Computationally the context-sensitive languages are equivalent with linear bounded non-deterministic Turing machines. That is a non-deterministic Turing machine with a tape of only kn cells, where n is the size of the input and k is a constant associated with the machine. This means that every formal language that can be decided by such a machine is a context-sensitive language, and every context-sensitive language can be decided by such a machine.

Isaac:
Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state.

Wikipedia:
Chomsky hierarchy

A formal grammar consists of:
a finite set of terminal symbols;
a finite set of nonterminal symbols;
a finite set of production rules with a left- and a right-hand side consisting of a sequence of these symbols
a start symbol.

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Isaac:
Now imagine trying to add the billionth word to the list (imagine also that we're working with an infinite alphabet so you don't run out of letters) and you can imagine how difficult it is for even a computer to keep up. Needless to say, writing this kind of thing "by hand" is orders of magnitude beyond the capabilities of the brain.

Wikipedia:
A formal grammar defines (or generates) a formal language, which is a (possibly infinite) set of sequences of symbols that may be constructed by applying production rules to a sequence of symbols which initially contains just the start symbol. A rule may be applied to a sequence of symbols by replacing an occurrence of the symbols on the left-hand side of the rule with those that appear on the right-hand side. A sequence of rule applications is called a derivation. Such a grammar defines the formal language of all words consisting solely of terminal symbols that can be reached by a derivation from the start symbol.

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Turing machines are extremely basic abstract symbol-manipulating devices which, despite their simplicity, can be adapted to simulate the logic of any computer that could possibly be constructed. They were described in 1936 by Alan Turing.

[Stone (1972):"The evidence seems to indicate that every algorithm for any computing device has an equivalent Turing machine algorithm ... if [Church's thesis] is true, it is certainly remarkable that Turing machines, with their extremely primitive operations, are capable of performing any computation that any other device can perform, regardless of how complex a device we choose." (p. 13)

Isaac:
My background lent itself well to this kind of work though. I'd spent years writing code and designing both analog and digital circuits, a process that at least visually resembled these diagrams in some way. I also had a personal affinity for combinatorics.

Wikipedia:
Combinatorics is a branch of pure mathematics concerning the study of discrete (and usually finite) objects. It is related to many other areas of mathematics, such as algebra, probability theory, ergodic theory and geometry, as well as to applied subjects such as computer science and statistical physics. Aspects of combinatorics include "counting" the objects satisfying certain criteria (enumerative combinatorics), deciding when the criteria can be met, and constructing and analyzing objects meeting the criteria (as in combinatorial designs and matroid theory), finding "largest", "smallest", or "optimal" objects (extremal combinatorics and combinatorial optimization), and finding algebraic structures these objects may have (algebraic combinatorics).
Combinatorics is as much about problem solving as theory building, though it has developed powerful theoretical methods, especially since the later twentieth century (see the page List of combinatorics topics for details of the more recent development of the subject). One of the oldest and most accessible parts of combinatorics is graph theory, which also has numerous natural connections to other areas.
A trivial example of a combinatorial question is the following: What is the number of possible orderings of a deck of 52 distinct playing cards? The answer is 52! (fifty-two factorial), which is equal to about 8.0658 × 1067.
Another example of a more difficult problem: Given a certain number n of people, is it possible to assign them to sets so that each person is in at least one set, each pair of people is in exactly one set together, every two sets have exactly one person in common, and no set contains everyone, all but one person, or exactly one person? The answer depends on n. (Search "Design theory".)

Isaac:
I helped with the design of software running on supercomputers that could juggle the often trillions of rules necessary to create a valid diagram of any reasonable complexity. This overlapped quite a bit with compiler theory as well, a subject I always found fascinating, and in particular compiler optimization, a field that wasn't half of what it is today back then.

Wikipedia:
Compiler optimization is the process of tuning the output of a compiler to minimize some attribute (or maximize the efficiency) of an executable program. The most common requirement is to minimize the time taken to execute a program; a less common one is to minimize the amount of memory occupied, and the growth of portable computers has created a market for minimizing the power consumed by a program.
Factors affecting optimization
The machine itself
Many of the choices about which optimizations can and should be done depend on the characteristics of the target machine. It is sometimes possible to parameterize some of these machine dependent factors, so that a single piece of compiler code can be used to optimize different machines just by altering the machine description parameters. GCC is a compiler which exemplifies this approach.

Isaac:
Like I said, I could go on for hours about this subject, and would love to write at least an introductory book on the subject if it wasn't still completely classified.

Wikipedia:

Article not found: CARET (Program and Extra-terrestrial Technology)

Article found: CARET (Computerized Anatomical Reconstruction and Editing Toolkit)
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« Reply #1176 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 6:40pm »

In reply to RoH:

Infinite are a relation none here are able to grasp...if technology are interpeted as math, an ifinite are an option, therefore calculated in finite variabels, just as PI, 3,1415...etc...or, is this finite?

If working on this further, the Mandelbrot fraction comes in mind...is it finite, or infinite..?

Now, work on this..if you have the answer, please do tell... ? cheesy

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« Reply #1177 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 6:42pm »

EDIT: for a better explanaition of this, look at page 61 in the #1 - MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED?? - ASK ISAAC tread. - RoH

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« Reply #1178 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 6:48pm »

RoH,

This can't say, what I've tried to say..the "software" are bound to the "Hardware". Period.

Interpret what you want. PACL, CARET and more didn't use these things together...therefore, safe to release.

You need the "exotic matter" to reveal the purpose of these "Drones".

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on Aug 18th, 2007, 6:48pm, VonStern wrote:
RoH,

This can't say, what I've tried to say..the "software" are bound to the "Hardware". Period.

Interpret what you want. PACL, CARET and more didn't use these things together...therefore, safe to release.

You need the "exotic matter" to reveal the purpose of these "Drones".

--VonStern


The "software (Turing Machine)" are bound to the "Hardware" thru some "exotic matter" made with "Nano" technologi, or something in those terms.
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« Reply #1180 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 7:31pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 4:39pm, raska wrote:
Hey, ATO :I am a "she"! even though i talk like a boy and don't appear as ladylike as you and castles4me are !
I've always been a tomboy,no reason to change now that old age is coming, its getting worst !(must be freedom)



Oh my, srry she.
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« Reply #1181 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 7:35pm »

Finally, we agree on something!

Now, get me some NANO from the Grocery Store, and let's see if this works out! (Otherwise, we'll grab a beer and eat the potential "Exotic Matter"!) grin grin grin

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« Reply #1182 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 7:36pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 5:23pm, castles4me wrote:
ATO and ME.. ladylikehuh? LOL LOL LOL shocked


Well, she didn't have a little pinky thingy below her name so I boo'd boo'd and assumed it was a guy.
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« Reply #1183 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 7:51pm »

Here's the reply to me from LMH:

Why would I put 11 high resolution images on the net for the viral video and Photoshop hoaxers to misuse?


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« Reply #1184 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 7:52pm »

on Aug 18th, 2007, 7:35pm, VonStern wrote:
Finally, we agree on something!

Now, get me some NANO from the Grocery Store, and let's see if this works out! (Otherwise, we'll grab a beer and eat the potential "Exotic Matter"!) grin grin grin

--VonStern


And eat it like the chemical reaction that takes place in a batterie, so we can understand how to interpret the radian energy that is surounding us as a infinit source of free kinetic energy from the vacum.

Thats how they are powered, just like us humans, where do you think the bioelectrical pulses between our brains and muscle gets it charge from? It's not the food you are eating laugh grin

There is no dynamo inside our body that runs on food. The energy comes from the etheric gas that surounds us all.

Edit: The Ovnis USA site, has now been corrected wink
Merci Didier de Plaige, et vous faites un grand travail avec votre emplacement. smiley RoH (google translation!)
Je ne parle pas français sad
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