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« Reply #1380 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 2:48pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 1:42pm, Latitude wrote:
Magnetism works both ways, right? It can repel just as easily as attract. Was the frog attracted or repelled?

The frogs blood (like ours) is diamagnetic (naturally repels magnetic fields).

Iron on the other hand ferromagnetic, it has an attraction to magnetism.

Some materials like lithium are paramagnetic, which are weakly attractive to magnetism.

Here is a reference to those types:


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Can a steady (non-pulsed) magnetic field disrupt electronics? I would think it could have a adverse effect on magnetic storage such a video tape and maybe a hard drive, but a digicam?


A steady state (non-pulsed) magnetic field should not adversely affect electronics, however if the field is extremely strong then simply waving the camera about will induce current in any length of wire and most likely cause problems. I was thinking that a static magnetic field strong enough to be felt by a human would induce large currents into any moving wires like a waving camera.



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I'd be curious to see what effect the drone would have on a compass. I brought this up about three months ago when I was thinking of making a drone detector cheesy


Many such devices should be taken on your Dronefest '08. I'll start with the following suggestions:
- a compass
- electrostatic meter
- audio tape recorder
- standard film and digital cameras with high speed startup and repeats
- infrared still and video camera
- ultraviolet still and video camera
- wide band radio receiver with spectra-analysis capabilities
- repeat of much of the above for triangulation purposes

And of course a huge budget, maybe similar to a Mythbusters budget smiley
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« Reply #1381 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 2:53pm »

My apologies if this has been posted:

Claude Poher announces experimental success of his gravitation theory.

http://ufologie.net/htm/2007aug.htm#08182007

http://www.universons.com/
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« Reply #1382 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 3:34pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 2:53pm, wreckage wrote:
My apologies if this has been posted:

Claude Poher announces experimental success of his gravitation theory.

http://ufologie.net/htm/2007aug.htm#08182007

http://www.universons.com/


That was interesting. This is worth framing even.

Photograph underneath: On July 14, 1978, United Nation hearings on UFO matters, initiated by Granada. From left to right: Dr. Claude Poher (GEPAN, France), Sir Eric Gairy (Granada, initiator of the hearings), Kurt Waldheim (Austria, at the time Secretary General of the UN), Gordon Cooper (US astronaut, UFO witness as pilot in the 50's) Dr. J. Allen Hynek (former USAF UFO consultant, astronomer and ufologist), Dr. Jacques Vallée (French ufologist).
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« Reply #1383 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 3:36pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 1:23pm, jugement wrote:
AT THE TIME TY SIGHTED AND PHOTOED THE DRONE> THE DRONE WAS EXPERIENCING AN UNOTHORIZED COMAND TO DECLOAK THE DRONE HAD TO OF SINCED THAT IT WAS DECLOAKING AND WAS TRING TO CLOAK BACK ANOTHER COMAND, AND THE PURPOSE THE DRONE WAS THEIR FOR WAS A COMAND THAT HAD TO BE IN THE PROGRAM. THE THE VOLTEX THAT IS CAUSED IN THE CENTER IN THE DRONES JUST ASUMING NOW THE WORK IT DOES HERE OR ANY WERE FOR THAT MATTER CAUSES THE DRONE TO EITHER GO BACK WERE IT CAME OR TO ANOTHER SOLAR SYSTEM.NOT ASUMING, YET WHEN THE DRONE VIBRATES TO A CERTAIN LEVEL IS WHAT CAUSES IT TO CLOAK ITSELF. YESTERDAY SOME ONE STATED THAT THEY DID NOT THINK THE DRONES ROTATED THAT FAST. YES THEY DO THATS WHAT CAUSES IT TO CLOAK> THINK ABOUT IT FOR AMOMENT. DONT THE EARTH ROTATE AT SO MANY THOUSAND SPINS IN 24 HOUR TIME SO PERFECT WE CANT FEEL IT OR WE ARE NOT THROWN OFF THE PLANET WITH GRAVITY HOLDING US ON THE PLANET.


Jugement, I have to disagree here, not that I wish to, but the cloaking Device do probably not need to turn to work. It's probably using magnetic "mirrors" to obtain the effect.

If this whole Drone Device are using both cloaking and antigravity devices (That's quite possible) At least they
must be made to not interfere with eachother. If spinning, the cloaking device might just interfere with the antigravity device. If this is what I think it is...NANO,
These tasks will have to be performed independable of eachother. If in Sync, they make a good "hiding" device...not seen, nor heard (Provided the "Field" that Isaac describes, are a magnetic one!).

It only works in a certain field...could it be magnetic?

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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1384 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 3:42pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 12:47pm, castles4me wrote:
since when do they make planes that have two round sections like rings....

Did ya'll zoom in on it?

Pause it when it looks the clearest (on the slow mo part) and right click on it... then press "zoom in" a couple of times.


Aircraft like the Airbus A320 have a center section that can "stand out" and can reflect light as if it were a separate object.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0222979

http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=23

The eye witness even said they though it was just a plane until they looked at the video. The problem is that small bright objects just look weird and will have poor definition on video, especially when zoomed.

It is just my opinion, and I may be incorrect, but I think it is a jet.
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« Reply #1385 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 4:03pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 3:34pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
That was interesting. This is worth framing even.

Photograph underneath: On July 14, 1978, United Nation hearings on UFO matters, initiated by Granada. From left to right: Dr. Claude Poher (GEPAN, France), Sir Eric Gairy (Granada, initiator of the hearings), Kurt Waldheim (Austria, at the time Secretary General of the UN), Gordon Cooper (US astronaut, UFO witness as pilot in the 50's) Dr. J. Allen Hynek (former USAF UFO consultant, astronomer and ufologist), Dr. Jacques Vallée (French ufologist).
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Ah!! This extraordinary, anthological photograph. Never forget, the majority of them built world ufologic research…
Thank you ATO to point out this photograph to us!!

Today, only remain C. Poher and J. Vallée; Sir Eric Gary died in 1994, G. Cooper in 2004 and J.A. Hynek in 1986....

What could they think of this business drones??

Maybe today, they know the real truth..... Who knowshuh

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« Reply #1386 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 4:23pm »

Hello,

There was some time ago a message stating that some UFOs could only be seen by camcorders or cameras.

A picture showing an object was attached from a woman saying she did not see it with her own eyes when the photograph was made.

(I will take some time to get the URLs back).

I even saw a video with 2 camcorders filming the same sky : on one one tape there was a UFO, on the other nothing.

My point is that camcorders may catch things that human eye does not see.

I am just surprised to see that no reaction was given to this post.

Maybe that an interesting -and costless- test could be made in the UFO sighting areas with camcorders recording for hours.

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« Reply #1387 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 4:48pm »

HI VONSTERN; YOU WROTE, IT ONLY WORKS IN A CER TAIN FIELD... COULD IT BE MAGNETIC. YES IT COULD POSABLY WORK BY MAGNETIC. NOW I WAS ONLY THINKING FROM THE VISION THAT IT WAS OPERATATING ON ONE CAMAND BEFORE DECLOAKING. SECOND SOME HOW IT IS ABLE TO CORRECT THE WRONG COMAND BY THE COMAND ALREADY SET. THE DRONE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN DECLOAKING AND THAT WS NOT THE SET PROGRAM. THE THIRD COMAND WAS ALSO RESTARTED ONCE IT REALIZE IT SHOULD NOT DECLOAKED. NOW I MY HAVE EXPLAINED THE VOLTEX AND THE DIFFERANT FUNCTIONS THE DRONE MY HAVE BEEN DOING DURING THE TIME THAT TY SITED IT,AND PHOTOED. MYBE I SHOULD OF JUST LEFT IT AT WHAT I SAW IN THE VISION YESTERDAY MORNING. AND ANOTHER REASON FOR ME TRING TO EXPLAIN< WAS FROM THE QUESTIONS LATITUDE ASKED ON PAGE (92) THAT WAS CONFUSING TO HIM AS TO WHAT THE DRONE WAS DOING DURING TY,S ENCOUNTER. IT SEEMS TO BE GIVING ME A DEMONSTRATION IN MY VISON ON THE LINES OF THOSE QUESTIONS. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIGH TECH MYSELF. HAS ANY ONE TRYED TOKNOW WHAT THE DRONES DO OR WHATS THE PURPOSE? MY GUESS IS THEY ARE REPAIRING SOMETHING WITHIN EARTHS CRUSTS, THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH CALIFORNIA FAULT LINES>
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« Reply #1388 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:04pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 4:48pm, jugement wrote:
HI VONSTERN; YOU WROTE, IT ONLY WORKS IN A CER TAIN FIELD... COULD IT BE MAGNETIC. YES IT COULD POSABLY WORK BY MAGNETIC. NOW I WAS ONLY THINKING FROM THE VISION THAT IT WAS OPERATATING ON ONE CAMAND BEFORE DECLOAKING. SECOND SOME HOW IT IS ABLE TO CORRECT THE WRONG COMAND BY THE COMAND ALREADY SET. THE DRONE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN DECLOAKING AND THAT WS NOT THE SET PROGRAM. THE THIRD COMAND WAS ALSO RESTARTED ONCE IT REALIZE IT SHOULD NOT DECLOAKED. NOW I MY HAVE EXPLAINED THE VOLTEX AND THE DIFFERANT FUNCTIONS THE DRONE MY HAVE BEEN DOING DURING THE TIME THAT TY SITED IT,AND PHOTOED. MYBE I SHOULD OF JUST LEFT IT AT WHAT I SAW IN THE VISION YESTERDAY MORNING. AND ANOTHER REASON FOR ME TRING TO EXPLAIN< WAS FROM THE QUESTIONS LATITUDE ASKED ON PAGE (91) THAT WAS CONFUSING TO HIM AS TO WHAT THE DRONE WAS DOING DURING TY,S ENCOUNTER. IT SEEMS TO BE GIVING ME A DEMONSTRATION IN MY VISON ON THE LINES OF THOSE QUESTIONS. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIGH TECH MYSELF. HAS ANY ONE TRYED TOKNOW WHAT THE DRONES DO OR WHATS THE PURPOSE? MY GUESS IS THEY ARE REPAIRING SOMETHING WITHIN EARTHS CRUSTS, THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH CALIFORNIA FAULT LINES>


Jugement, you're quite right. But if failure comes to mind, maybe the Drones seen by witnesses are controlled by Terrestrials... cheesy

If Alien controlled, I doubt it to fail, they probably has been here for a long, long time...not failing at all!

Just to set our minds straight!

By the way, I appreciate your visions, gives me food for thought!

Oh, and not everyone in here are Geniouses, including myself! To reveal one's deepests thoughts to the public takes only True Grit.

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« Reply #1389 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:16pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 4:23pm, Riviera wrote:
Hello,

There was some time ago a message stating that some UFOs could only be seen by camcorders or cameras.

A picture showing an object was attached from a woman saying she did not see it with her own eyes when the photograph was made.

(I will take some time to get the URLs back).

I even saw a video with 2 camcorders filming the same sky : on one one tape there was a UFO, on the other nothing.

My point is that camcorders may catch things that human eye does not see.

I am just surprised to see that no reaction was given to this post.

Maybe that an interesting -and costless- test could be made in the UFO sighting areas with camcorders recording for hours.

smiley


Actually, there is no need to look up the url. Just about every other UFO photo on casebook or any other site for that matter, they say that they didn't see the UFO when they took the picture until after they downloaded it from the camera.

And, this topic was actually discussed many times in depth in this forum.
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« Reply #1390 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:19pm »

I know how some of you don't go into links so I'm going to continue a post here that wreckage started a page back. What follows the wreckage post was given to me to add by Didier de Plaige, OVNIS-USA.

on Aug 21st, 2007, 2:53pm, wreckage wrote:
My apologies if this has been posted:
Claude Poher announces experimental success of his gravitation theory.
http://ufologie.net/htm/2007aug.htm#08182007
http://www.universons.com/


Claude Poher - PhD in astronomy-astrophysics - has just recently published his findings :
"I have built my first emitter of an anisotropic flux of Universons.
The first emitter was tested on April 11, 2007. And it worked exactly as expected ! Since that date, I made many other emitters, and all of them work perfectly well. So, after April 11, 2007, my invention was no more a theoretical hypothesis, but a real fact."
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This black "stone", very uncommon, propels itself at more than 800 g acceleration !

But it does not only propel itself. Progressively, with this emitter and others, I demonstrated experimentally all the predicted physical phenomena :
- The self propulsion of the emitter is demonstrated experimentally. It is considerable.
- The acceleration of the matter irradiated by the emitted flux is demonstrated experimentally.
- The direct generation of electric energy, from a distance, is demonstrated experimentally. Quite simple.
- The creation of an electric field in a dielectric irradiated by the emitted flux is demonstrated experimentally.
- The non absorption of the anisotropic flux of Universons by matter is demonstrated experimentally.
- The ionization of matter and emission of light are demonstrated experimentally.

http://www.universons.com/
(The detailed english section of his website requires registration, except for A DIRECT LINK TO EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS with VIDEO & Pdf doc.).

Engineer in space research - Engineer in electronics.
Ph D in astronomy-astrophysics.
33 years of scientific career in space research in CNES (Centre National d’Etudes Spatiales, the French NASA).

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I have know this man for 4 years, done 3 interviews with him so far, he launched the french Ufo Official Desk (GEPAN) in 1977.
He's a top independent researcher IMO. He is very grateful for inspiration to all the Ufo witnesses whom he met, and which cases he studied within the frame of his government mission. Didier de Plaige, OVNIS-USA

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"All the experimental results I obtained confirm all the details of my Universons theory.

These results confirm also all the analyzes I made about the physical effects of the emitted flux.

So, my invention will allow to propel a vehicle at very high acceleration.

This means that my invention is an experimental scientific confirmation of the interstellar travel feasibility.

But it opens also, and mainly, very numerous other new applications.

Particularly the direct generation of electric energy without using fossil resources, and without pollution."

Any in depth conversation should take place at the following address.
CLAUDE POHER

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« Reply #1391 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:32pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 3:34pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
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This is obviously a *fake* photograph, and is simply viral marketing for the new Mr. Bean movie...
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« Reply #1392 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:40pm »

on Aug 21st, 2007, 5:32pm, Fencesitter wrote:
This is obviously a *fake* photograph, and is simply viral marketing for the new Mr. Bean movie...


Yes, very antiseptic looking. Geeky. I like geeky though. They put bread on the table and never stop learning.
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on Aug 21st, 2007, 5:40pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Yes, very antiseptic looking. Geeky. I like geeky though. They put bread on the table and never stop learning.


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The truth is out there!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/291860/mr_bean_christmas/
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« Reply #1394 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:52pm »

WOW, they do look alike.
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