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« Reply #1470 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:28am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:19am, Latitude wrote:
Hey Newt,

I think it is possible that the drone does bend light around itself. It may also be projecting it's own light. So instead of casting a shadow, it projects a copy of the sunlight that is being blocked. I guess the end result basically the same. The difference may be in the method used. Because the craft has control of gravity and inertial forces it should also be able to bend light. This scientific concept of gravity bending light was proved long ago.

So in my estimation the craft either bends light with it's gravity controls your uses a system of 3-d projectors to simulate it.

BTW, what missing shadow?
HEY YOU THE MAN, I AM GOING TO ADD THAT THE DRONE TECH CAN AND INDEED CONTROLS LIGHT.
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« Reply #1471 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:35am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 05:47am, drewlac wrote:
But since LHM controls practically every lead on this story, I wouldn't expect it to happen. I honestly think she's planning a book, like others stated a few pages back.



Yes, she monopolizes the truth and robs the community of the tools it needs to take this further.
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« Reply #1472 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:41am »

on Aug 22nd, 2007, 11:38pm, hjdelight wrote:
Isaac basically said this. That, although we were very primitive compared to ET, after years we were getting it. We understand the basics. There's no reason not to believe him on this. Given twenty years or so, it's likely that the drones are ours. What the drones are doing is actually a more pertinent question then who they belong to at this point. The conspiracy crowd will have their opinion of course. I think at this time, we just have to wait to see.

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WHATS UP, I HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION MANY TIMES. WHAT DO THE DRONES DO? WELL FIRST OFF WHEN TRING TO FIGURE SOME THING OUT ANYTHING AS FAR AS THAT MATTER THAT ONLY CONFUSES ANY ONE MORE TO TRY AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ,EITHER YOU LET IT COME TO YOU OR YOU TAKE AN EDUCATED GUESS OR YOU ARE EITHER GUIDED WHICH IT IS LED TO YOU WHICH I AM FOR THE MOST PART GUIDED, THE DRONES ARE REPAIRING SOME PROBLEM WITH INER EARTH THAT CAN CAUSE THIS PLANET TO CRACK IN HALF AND SINCE THE HISTOTY OF THE DRONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMING HERE THATS WHAT ONE OF THE JOBS OF THE DRONES ARE HERE FOR. NOW GO TO HOLLOW EARTH TREAD AFRICA FOR REFERANCE. OR BETTER YET ARENT THEIR UNDER GROUND VOCANOS AND UNDER THE OCEAN, DONT FORGET THE PLATES THAT SHIFTS I SAY WHATS UNDER CALIFORNIA? grin grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #1473 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:47am »

You know, when you re-read the PACL report there is all kind of nuggets of info in there lol

Like, I just saw again and it popped out to me that the anti-gravity generators came in a pair of two.

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"A-1 was one of a pair of identical generators, together responsible for all antigravity-related functionality, from propulsion of the craft itself to placement of all components within the crafts internal design." operating in 1. Field Mode; 2. Component Mode; 3. Multi-mode.

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« Reply #1474 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:19am, Latitude wrote:
Hey Newt,

I think it is possible that the drone does bend light around itself. It may also be projecting it's own light. So instead of casting a shadow, it projects a copy of the sunlight that is being blocked. I guess the end result basically the same. The difference may be in the method used. Because the craft has control of gravity and inertial forces it should also be able to bend light. This scientific concept of gravity bending light was proved long ago.

So in my estimation the craft either bends light with it's gravity controls your uses a system of 3-d projectors to simulate it.

BTW, what missing shadow?


11 11 on an ATS forum posted an image showing that there should be a shadow under the drone tail on one of the Raj pics. Since there is no shadow there, to some of them, the whole thing is a hoax... So that's what got me thinking about the shadows being cast.
Here is the link:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg167
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« Reply #1475 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:11am »

HI ALL; CHECK THIS OUT FOR A MOMENT.ISAAC I GOT TO HAND IT TO YOU. WHY YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MADE ME PONDER. NOW THE EYE BEAM ON THE ROSWELL CRASH THAT JESSE JR HELD. THAT DONT SIT SO WELL WITH ME THAT HE DREW IT FROM MEMORY. HE DREW THAT FROM THE ACTUAL BEAM ITSELF. NOW COULD THE ISAAC DOCUMENTS BE THE PART OF THAT SHIP THAT HAS BEEN PAINTED BLACK? YET THE WORDS OR LINQUISTICS HAS BEEN PAITED WHITE ALSO. NO DOUT ABOUT IT WE ARE LOOKING AT A REAL UFO OR THE ROSWELL PARTS FROM THAT CRASH OR A CRASH. LIKE I SAID I AM A SCIENTIST SINCE I WAS 14 TEEN NOW 50 TY. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1476 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:43am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:19am, Latitude wrote:
Hey Newt,

I think it is possible that the drone does bend light around itself. It may also be projecting it's own light. So instead of casting a shadow, it projects a copy of the sunlight that is being blocked. I guess the end result basically the same.





Is this something like what was reported by the police in Illinois (back in 2000)


http://dbarkertv.com/EOR%20Preview%20DSL.wmv

Watch the police officer's report about 3/4s the way through. Food for thought.
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« Reply #1477 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:52am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 09:48am, newtothis wrote:
I have a couple questions about the cloaking and shadowing of the drone.


Time travel
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Something that just occurred to me. If Time Travel is possible then the appearance and disappearance of the drone could be simple explained by it traveling through time.

I always hated the idea of time travel, too messy and unbelievable, but this would certainly explain the total disappearance with no sound or trace while "invisible".
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« Reply #1478 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:13pm »

on Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:48pm, castles4me wrote:
Back to the I-beam -- I think it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Marcel could have remembered them slightly different. It could very well be the same race/language -- Just the use of the I-beam in a discoidal craft would be different from that of a drone.

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Check this out Jugement -- it could be similar -- the video that someone posted yesterday of Jesse Jr holding a black I-beam mock-up of the original looks very interesting too, in the fact that it is black with white lettering. Could very well be the same race or alien technology (Isaac/Roswell) Jugement. Maybe not items from the exact same craft, but items from the same race. I thought that the curved I-beams and the antigravity device from the Isaac documents went to the drones, but I don't think the documents ever really say that -- they just say "craft."


--- I wonder what Jesse Marcel Jr. would say if he saw the curved I-beams and the antigravity device -- would he corroborate that it is the same lettering that he saw ??
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« Reply #1479 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:28pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am, newtothis wrote:
11 11 on an ATS forum posted an image...


If you're so familiar with THAT place, you should have noticed how Spf33 did reply to this guy.
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on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:52am, onthefence55 wrote:

Time travel
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Something that just occurred to me. If Time Travel is possible then the appearance and disappearance of the drone could be simple explained by it traveling through time.

I always hated the idea of time travel, too messy and unbelievable, but this would certainly explain the total disappearance with no sound or trace while "invisible".


If space and light are bendable, why not time? I think about how much technology has advanced in the last 50 years, imagine how much it will advance in 1000 years... I wouldn't be surprised if one of the races observing us, is the human race!
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« Reply #1481 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:47pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am, newtothis wrote:
11 11 on an ATS forum posted an image showing that there should be a shadow under the drone tail on one of the Raj pics. Since there is no shadow there, to some of them, the whole thing is a hoax... So that's what got me thinking about the shadows being cast.
Here is the link:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg167


Reading through this stuff, there is another link:

http://www.theparanormalreport.com/Debunking-the-Drones.html

At least I now understand why they think this way.
I am just not convinced this is nothing more than a viral marketing ploy.
But if it is, I am not buying their products any more!!! angry
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« Reply #1482 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:08pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am, newtothis wrote:
11 11 on an ATS forum posted an image showing that there should be a shadow under the drone tail on one of the Raj pics. Since there is no shadow there, to some of them, the whole thing is a hoax... So that's what got me thinking about the shadows being cast.
Here is the link:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg167


Yes, that's an old one. It's one nit pic I proved wrong about a month ago. The shadow's presence would depend on the position of the sun in relation to the drone. The sun at the time of the pic was at an altitude angle of ~22 degrees. The angle of the drone in relation to level ground was equal or greater, hence no shadow visible underneath. In other words the photo is as is should be.

How about you do some better analysis? Examine the two drone plus utility pole pics from Raj. Note the shadows on the bottom side. Note how they change from one pic to the next. Fascinating, huh? It's all so perfect, exactly as real life is. Consider how hard it would be to duplicate this with a cgi or model drone pasted into a pic.
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« Reply #1483 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:08pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:28pm, DdP wrote:
If you're so familiar with THAT place, you should have noticed how Spf33 did reply to this guy.


I might have missed it, but I was under the impression that they are on the same "side".

Hopefully I wasn't out of line by quoting "THAT" forum, but all of these forums have a number of highly intelligent individuals that, together, could prove or disprove just about anything...
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« Reply #1484 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:16pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:52am, onthefence55 wrote:

Time travel
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Something that just occurred to me. If Time Travel is possible then the appearance and disappearance of the drone could be simple explained by it traveling through time.

I always hated the idea of time travel, too messy and unbelievable, but this would certainly explain the total disappearance with no sound or trace while "invisible".


I hate time travel. What if you went back in time and killed yourself? How could you have did it to begin with? You were already dead!

But I don't believe the cloaking is time travel based. How about the decloaking technology? Would it have the abilty to return a drone to present time? But how about dimension shifting? Nah it hurts my brain to consider. How about plain old cloaking as Isaac states. I'm sticking with that. Either light bending or 3-d projecting or how about the drone somehow alters itself so that light (a form of EMR) passes through it just as other forms of EMR pass through everything.
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