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« Reply #1485 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:21pm »

Latitude, I agree with you 100%. I don't think elevation was taken into consideration either. California has plenty of mountain ranges.

I also just found this forum about a month ago(despite starting each day for the last 3 months by checking the daily updates for more drone photos), so I must have missed your input about the shadows.
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« Reply #1486 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:35pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:16pm, Latitude wrote:
I hate time travel. What if you went back in time and killed yourself? How could you have did it to begin with? You were already dead!

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« Reply #1487 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:49pm »

Newtothis:

This might be a tad late but if you want to know something about the drones or Isaac and you're newer to the forum and question yourself, use the search. If you use it right it'll work great for you. If you're on dial up, reduce the number of entries from 200 to 50 and the number of days from 1500 to 120 or you'll find yourself sitting for quite a while.

For that matter and at this point, if you ask nice - all of the members will be willing to help you as well as the moderators.

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« Reply #1488 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:56pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am, newtothis wrote:
11 11 on an ATS forum...

Here is an example of 11 11's 'debate' from the ATS - Quote:
....I simply looked at the existing shadows, and my calculation was done, and I knew the shadow was missing. Now for me this is a simple method, for others though, they actually have to create a physical model, or simulated model. And they did, his name was SPF33. The model he created matched my head calculation perfectly.

Now, I have the ability to do that, and YOU don't. So, that's why you feel insulted, because you can't do something that I can.
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« Reply #1489 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:22pm »

Here's the debunk of the missing shadow theory:

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« Reply #1490 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:45pm »

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If you notice the shadow on the telephone pole (the cross bar about half way down), the sun appears to be straight off to the right on the first picture, just above the horizon. If the drone is leaning at all (only slightly), it will be lit from the bottom. Look Ma, no shadow.
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« Reply #1491 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:59pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:45pm, Marvin wrote:
If you notice the shadow on the telephone pole (the cross bar about half way down), the sun appears to be straight off to the right on the first picture, just above the horizon. If the drone is leaning at all (only slightly), it will be lit from the bottom. Look Ma, no shadow.


That's right Marvin. I've analyzed the shadow on the pole and it approximates the sun angle or ~22 degrees. My paint picture of the drone is somewhat exaggerated for illustration purposes.
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« Reply #1492 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:03pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:08pm, newtothis wrote:
I might have missed it, but I was under the impression that they are on the same "side".


11 11 is an arrogant pro-hoaxer that has made up his mind before doing any investigation.

spf33 is one of the very few unbiased researchers, his conclusion on that shadow was that it was mysterious and that it pointed towards a hoax. I think that he is still willing to entertain the possibility of it being real.

My conclusion is somewhat different, I am biased for this being real and I think that more work on that shadow will reveal a possibility. but it requires either a real scale model or some expertise with 3D graphics software.
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« Reply #1493 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:03pm »

The A-1 made Rense recently.

http://www.rense.com/general77/powerd.htm
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« Reply #1494 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:12pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:03pm, Latitude wrote:
The A-1 made Rense recently.

http://www.rense.com/general77/powerd.htm


I like this from the article lol

2.. The image release is being used as a means to USE the public to decode what the symbols mean. This would also mean that those who have possession of the images and information will be carefully watched and under surveillance. If true, this indicates that government experts are stumped. This is similar to the plot of the film "Mercury Rising" where a puzzle was placed in a puzzle book, to see if someone could crack it. In other words, this image is another black op.


So THAT'S why the info was released!!! So us Patsies can figure out all of their INFO for them!! lol

hey -- you never know!! lol
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« Reply #1495 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:21pm »

Has anyone noticed how weird the Capitola drone flies? It does a lot of banking. When you straighten out the photos (adjust the angle for how the camera is held), it takes on a different look.

Rajman has a crazy style of photography, tilting the camera from 9 to 33 degrees in three of the shots. I will see if I can post examples later unless someone beats me to it.
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« Reply #1496 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:26pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:21pm, Marvin wrote:
Has anyone noticed how weird the Capitola drone flies? It does a lot of banking. When you straighten out the photos (adjust the angle for how the camera is held), it takes on a different look.

Rajman has a crazy style of photography, tilting the camera from 9 to 33 degrees in three of the shots. I will see if I can post examples later unless someone beats me to it.


We owe a debt of gratitude to Raj. He ran through the streets to get those photos for us. He then came to OMF twice to answer questions. His posts are still there to read, if you like.
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« Reply #1497 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:55pm »

ATO - Thanks for pointing me to the search menu, very difficult to navigate the 1000's of posts in the forum...

Latitude - Just the diagram I was lookin for. Thanks!
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« Reply #1498 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 4:15pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:12pm, castles4me wrote:
2.. The image release is being used as a means to USE the public to decode what the symbols mean. This would also mean that those who have possession of the images and information will be carefully watched and under surveillance. If true, this indicates that government experts are stumped. This is similar to the plot of the film "Mercury Rising" where a puzzle was placed in a puzzle book, to see if someone could crack it. In other words, this image is another black op. [/i]

So THAT'S why the info was released!!! So us Patsies can figure out all of their INFO for them!! lol

hey -- you never know!! lol



This makes more sense than anything else so far.

The Feds can't figure out what this is, due to the cloaking feature of this piece of hardware.\

They're letting us figure it out for their compartmentalized selves.

I say: this is a meat-grinder, literally. Stay away from it.

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« Reply #1499 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 4:15pm »

Guys and Girls...the investigation ongoing here in THE UFO CASEBOOK are the best ever seen! If the professors and phd's
were to even look at this, it would take us all to raise a fund to research this issue.

It's all about money! No professor or the like would put his/hers liability at risk over this!

This all talks "REAL" to me.

That's why there has been no response in the mainstream media, and elsewhere.

It's not that it may or may not be a hoax, that can be dealt with, but the truth would be another
matter, since someone would be "responsible" and maybe even have the "Copyright".

That, my friends, are MONEY,$,£ Euro...

Just some bits of my mind,

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