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« Reply #1530 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 12:05am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:42pm, jugement wrote:
GREAT READ LATITUDE; BY THE WAY N TESLA IS MY FAVORITE SCIENTIST; HE SHOWED EINSTIN HOW TO CONDUCT THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT.DIDNT THE MEN IN BLACH OFF N TESLA ALSO FOR FREE ENERGY? cool


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Yeah, Tesla was an underappreciated genius. Our world owes him a debt of gratitude. It's too bad we didn't learn more from him.
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« Reply #1531 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 12:12am »

I was researching past UFO archives on various sites trying to find any reports of craft similar to the drones. While no objects really seem to describe the drones, I did stumble upon this conversation an abductee had with aliens:

"Upon being asked about their point of origin they told the witness that they came from "beyond 300 million light years away". Asked how could they travel so far they pointed out that they used the speed of gravity, which was faster then light."
http://www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/humanoid1997.shtml (this site is very interesting reading, full of reports of alien humanoids)

And so I researched the speed of gravity and came upon this highly technical page which concludes that the speed of gravity is 2x10 to the power of 10 x C (where C is the speed of light)
http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp

And I also found where a 20 year NASA employee, Dr. Tom Van Flandren, concludes that the speed of gravity is 100 times, if not 1000 times, the speed of light. And due to this, he sees extraterrestrial visitations as something very probable.
http://www.ufoinfo.com/filer/2003/ff0329.shtml

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« Reply #1532 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 12:46am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 12:04am, urantia606 wrote:
If some hot shot reporter got an exclusive angle or interview with Isaac on the drones...he might just go for it. If he can't get that...forget it.

Just my opinion.


I wonder how hard any such investigative reporter is willing to dig for that report, though. It seems to me that, had there been a mainstream media, accomplished and experienced reporter INTERESTED in the story, he or she would have dug up a lot more than we got from LMH.
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« Reply #1533 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 04:04am »

Someone already mentioned this, I believe - let's assume that main parts of the drone's propulsion system are those 16 spikes and the ring with cavity bellow them. Judging by the way it sounds (humming and crackling), high voltage electric field is somehow involved, though IMO it doesn't sound very efficient (sparks).

Now, if spikes are part of propulsion system (either by ion wind, aether resistance, anti-gravity or whatever), varying 'field strength' or some other parameter at one or more adjacent spikes would make drone tilt and move in an appropriate direction, just like helicopters do. If spike's 'field strength' can't be varied independently but just simply switched on/off, that would explain jerkiness as it moves to some extent.

If drones are using anti-gravity, maybe their propulsion differs from Isaac's anti-gravity generator in a way that it uses earth's gravity field to function, which somehow makes it simpler. There are clearly two symmetric opposing parts (with spikes!) at the anti-gravity generator - perhaps to make it independent of local gravity so it works anywhere in space, unlike simpler drones that work just in 'gravity-wells'.
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« Reply #1534 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 06:48am »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 9:47pm, onthefence55 wrote:
I was not implying that the smaller tip of the telephone pole was the perspective issue that you ignored.

Telephone poles do exhibit perspective issues, notice that all the poles in the following images are on a perspective induced tilt:

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I agree that the drone tilts.

I do not agree with your dismissal of perspective issues on the pole. I think that the drone tilts far less than you suggest as if it were not possible that it could have been done without hoaxing (or did I misinterpret your implication).




If I understand this correctly, It was 4:30 pm and the sun was at a 22 degree angle.


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The above example only shows a 17 degree tilt, so it is under exaggerated the tilt by at least 6 degrees. It has to be tilted at a least 23 degrees in order to light the bottom of the paddle or wing.

23 degrees. Hmmm, that's a big tilt, or am I missing something?

I am not even talking about it being a hoax (am I saying these are hoax photoshuh), I am wondering why is it flying so weird? Or are you saying, if it flies weird (at these angles) it is a hoax? huh

When one looks up into the sky, it changes the angles of vertical objects that you are close to. That did not meet my definition of perspective, but we can agree to disagree. smiley
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« Reply #1535 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 07:35am »

Ok, I think I am awake now,

The crazy angle can be due to "looking up" and that is creating the "angles" of the telephone pole to the bottom horizon of the camera view. Regardless, this drone appears to fly at a tilt. Any ideas out there as to why it does this?
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« Reply #1536 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 07:39am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 04:04am, nekitamo wrote:
Someone already mentioned this, I believe - let's assume that main parts of the drone's propulsion system are those 16 spikes and the ring with cavity bellow them. Judging by the way it sounds (humming and crackling), high voltage electric field is somehow involved, though IMO it doesn't sound very efficient (sparks).

Now, if spikes are part of propulsion system (either by ion wind, aether resistance, anti-gravity or whatever), varying 'field strength' or some other parameter at one or more adjacent spikes would make drone tilt and move in an appropriate direction, just like helicopters do. If spike's 'field strength' can't be varied independently but just simply switched on/off, that would explain jerkiness as it moves to some extent.

If drones are using anti-gravity, maybe their propulsion differs from Isaac's anti-gravity generator in a way that it uses earth's gravity field to function, which somehow makes it simpler. There are clearly two symmetric opposing parts (with spikes!) at the anti-gravity generator - perhaps to make it independent of local gravity so it works anywhere in space, unlike simpler drones that work just in 'gravity-wells'.


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Here is a google video search for Stan Deyo:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Stan+Deyo+

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Stan Deyo - Anti-Gravity, Free Energy and the Technology of the New World Order. (2005)
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« Reply #1537 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 08:02am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 07:35am, Marvin wrote:
Ok, I think I am awake now,

The crazy angle can be due to "looking up" and that is creating the "angles" of the telephone pole to the bottom horizon of the camera view. Regardless, this drone appears to fly at a tilt. Any ideas out there as to why it does this?

Well, I've just addressed this a few posts above:
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if spikes are part of propulsion system (either by ion wind, aether resistance, anti-gravity or whatever), varying 'field strength' or some other parameter at one or more adjacent spikes would make drone tilt and move in an appropriate direction, just like helicopters do. If spike's 'field strength' can't be varied independently but just simply switched on/off, that would explain jerkiness as it moves to some extent.

The question is, does it move in the same direction it is tilted to? Hard to tell for sure...
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« Reply #1538 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 08:09am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 08:02am, nekitamo wrote:
Well, I've just addressed this a few posts above:

The question is, does it move in the same direction it is tilted to? Hard to tell for sure...


That's why the eye witness is so important, and to get them "interviewed" as soon as possible. Before all of this becomes hazy or forgotten.

Sorry I missed your post nekitamo.
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« Reply #1539 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 08:36am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 07:39am, RoH wrote:
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Here is a google video search for Stan Deyo:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Stan+Deyo+

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Stan Deyo - Anti-Gravity, Free Energy and the Technology of the New World Order. (2005)
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« Reply #1540 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 09:10am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 06:48am, Marvin wrote:
23 degrees. Hmmm, that's a big tilt, or am I missing something?


For some reason, I always thought that the drones' body "flew" or hovered and maneuvered parallel to the earth's surface and that there was no tilt.

I can understand that the shadows would prove there was in fact a tilt. It just seems weird that there would be a tilt. ( of course it's weird that there are actually drones at all LMAO !! )
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« Reply #1541 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 09:13am »

UFO Buffs Still Think That the Truth is Out There

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294322,00.html

whether we agree with MUFON or not on the drones -- I guess media coverage is a GOOD thing.

And, just like I was saying yesterday -- we need actual physicists to go over the evidence of the drones to see if they are real and to study our analysis. (basically what this article is saying too)
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« Reply #1542 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 09:36am »

Hi neighbours !
On the OMF forum, i expressed thanks to ATO for the work done in her posts here (pge 96) about the holographic computational substrates, and what Isaac mentionned about this subject.I read it only once and did not remember that it was originally Roh's work , as well as Cloudbreak 's.
Well, today, as i 'm reading these posts a 2nd. time, i sincerely thank both of you for bringing your help so we can understand a bit more.
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« Reply #1543 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 09:40am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 06:48am, Marvin wrote:
If I understand this correctly, It was 4:30 pm and the sun was at a 22 degree angle.

The above example only shows a 17 degree tilt, so it is under exaggerated the tilt by at least 6 degrees. It has to be tilted at a least 23 degrees in order to light the bottom of the paddle or wing.

23 degrees. Hmmm, that's a big tilt, or am I missing something?

I am not even talking about it being a hoax (am I saying these are hoax photoshuh), I am wondering why is it flying so weird? Or are you saying, if it flies weird (at these angles) it is a hoax? huh

When one looks up into the sky, it changes the angles of vertical objects that you are close to. That did not meet my definition of perspective, but we can agree to disagree. smiley

I believe it was 5:30pm and yes ~22 degrees. I already posted that the paint diagram I made was not accurate but basically illustrates the general idea. The shadow on the fin proves the drone was at an angle greater than the sun angle. It does not matter what you see in the photo. The fin shadow does not lie. LOOK AT THE SHADOW ON THE FIN. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. It is small and so many people do not even see it. The proof is in the details.
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« Reply #1544 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 09:44am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 09:13am, castles4me wrote:
UFO Buffs Still Think That the Truth is Out There

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294322,00.html

whether we agree with MUFON or not on the drones -- I guess media coverage is a GOOD thing.

And, just like I was saying yesterday -- we need actual physicists to go over the evidence of the drones to see if they are real and to study our analysis. (basically what this article is saying too)


What's even more odd is that Fox picked the story up from Space.com
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