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« Reply #1560 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 11:57am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 11:54am, DrDil wrote:
By the sounds of it, I also fear Mr Carrion picked the wrong 20 year old to try and silence.


I agree, I thought the same thing.

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« Reply #1561 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 12:52pm »

The Lev's group video is up and it is a major dissapointment

Pathetic actually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xac1_AVqZJo
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« Reply #1562 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 1:04pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 12:52pm, murnut wrote:
The Lev's group video is up and it is a major dissapointment

Pathetic actually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xac1_AVqZJo


Pathetic and funny at the same time! grin
And did it turn into the beginning of a James Bond movie at the end?
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« Reply #1563 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 1:13pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 11:43am, Marvin wrote:
I too thought the drone would fly level, which is why I though it was weird. But you do not notice it until you measure angles or “straighten” the photo on the last photo.

I think the photos fairly well support a non-level flight (at least some of the time). This may well be a critical clue into the drone that we do want to over look. smiley


Yes. I think we have all discovered during this drone case that our preconceived notions more often than not get in the way of understanding. We always see terrestrial vehicles flying level to the ground so we jump to a conclusion that the drone must also do so.

It really makes one wonder about how far outside the box must one think to understand this thing.
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« Reply #1564 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 1:15pm »

Hi guys - I need a hand. Somewhere in the jungle of posts over the past month or so, there was a link to an external examination of (I think) the BB photographs. The poster (I can't even remember which forum) had done an analysis of the color shift 'profile' around the edges of the craft, concluding that faking the shift and keeping it consistent across the photograph would have been immensely difficult.

Can anyone point me to that post, please? Like I said, I don't remember where the external link went (I don't really know much about the other sites - I think this one had light text on a black background). Any points in the right direction greatly appreciated!
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« Reply #1565 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 1:41pm »

A quote from Whitley Strieber's Journal:

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The mistake that was made by the Isaac scientists was to assume that, if only they understood the principles behind the equipment they possessed, they could use it. This isn't completely impossible, but a much more elegant solution is to work backward from what we see the equipment doing, and use our imaginations to determine how something might do that. This way, we adapt our vision of the universe to our understanding of it, rather than slowly and painfully entering somebody else's vision and contorting our own imagination to fit it.


I think this reflects alot of the work done in this forum and others.

I also think, that if this turns out to be the greatest hoax ever! (that I doubt, it's to complex) it's been
a journey that we will forever remember, and that it have taught us many new things in life.
Just think about it, in the end, regardless of the outcome to this enigma. We all walk away with new knowledge,
enlightenment and most of all, new friends that shared thoughts and stod by your side through this "historic" event smiley

And we will all learned the truth about... the Media, MUFON, Drones, Science and on and on, just wait and see wink

Whitley Strieber's Journal about the drones:

The Mystery of the Drones Friday June 8th, 2007

The Drones Unveiled Tuesday June 26th, 2007

The Drones: Are They Real, and What Do We Do? Friday June 29th, 2007

That exotic matter VonStern gave me... wow grin


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« Reply #1566 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 1:42pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 12:52pm, murnut wrote:
The Lev's group video is up and it is a major dissapointment

Pathetic actually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xac1_AVqZJo


I don't get it -- what was the purpose of that video??
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« Reply #1567 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:05pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 1:42pm, castles4me wrote:
I don't get it -- what was the purpose of that video??


I think it was basically a showcase of all of the CGI he (I believe there is no they) planned to leak into the forums before he realized his façade was slipping and his peers were having none of his pseudo-intellectual, cryptic, invective and intentionally evasive diatribe.

(But then again I just see good in everyone….. wink)
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« Reply #1568 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:10pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 2:05pm, DrDil wrote:
I think it was basically a showcase of all of the CGI he (I believe there is no they) planned to leak into the forums before he realized his façade was slipping and his peers were having none of his pseudo-intellectual, cryptic, invective and intentionally evasive diatribe.

(But then again I just see good in everyone….. wink)


I wonder if he was responsible for the August 29th drone photo. In that video there was a similar field with an object in the foreground.
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« Reply #1569 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:13pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 2:10pm, castles4me wrote:
I wonder if he was responsible for the August 29th drone photo. In that video there was a similar field with an object in the foreground.


Yeah, and he referenced a, “Farm” a couple of times and there appears to be one in the background of one of those images, plus the, “Lander” apparently looked similar to, “Irrigation heads” although no photographic evidence was produced.

And Lev’s creations are the only ones that have that extra little attachment underneath, which looks like it was lifted from an Earthfiles sketch which was created by one of the eye witnesses.
(Well Lev's creations and that image, but you see my point!!)
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« Reply #1570 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:39pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 1:42pm, castles4me wrote:
I don't get it -- what was the purpose of that video??


I'd say they are trying to take credit for the whole case. There are wireframe models of many drones (including those from the actual case), famous Raj's image with and without a drone, 'a summer well spent' conclusion, and so on. They are actually saying 'we did it', it is our 'summer story'.

Well, maybe now there'll be some media coverage, at last. Now they have the missing 'proof' it is just another UFO hoax, so they can write about it and keep their face.

EDIT: On a second thought, maybe it's just Lev trying to make better drone music video than SaladFingers smiley
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« Reply #1571 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:41pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 2:13pm, DrDil wrote:
Yeah, and he referenced a, “Farm” a couple of times and there appears to be one in the background of one of those images, plus the, “Lander” apparently looked similar to, “Irrigation heads” although no photographic evidence was produced.

And Lev’s creations are the only ones that have that extra little attachment underneath, which looks like it was lifted from an Earthfiles sketch which was created by one of the eye witnesses.
(Well Lev's creations and that image, but you see my point!!)


Stop the video at 2:16 -- and compare it to the June 29th drone photo -- I can't put my hand on that photo right now.... at work.
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« Reply #1572 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:46pm »

If you were a CGI artist and someone asked you to look at a couple of photos with UFOs in them and decide for them whether they were CGI or not, what would be your answer? Oh, I guess I should show you the photos first huh?

Well instead let me ask you this. If that happened and the following list were your clients that give you money that pays your mortgage, car payments and child's college fund what would your answer be about those UFO photos being CGI?

United States Joint Chiefs, Washington D.C
Curtiss Wright Flow Control Corporation
Northrop Grumman / Newport News
General Dynamics
Nautilus Memorial Museum
USS Connecticut (SSN22) Commissioning Committee
Naval War College Museum
Lockheed Martin, Undersea Systems (Virginia), Space Systems (Sunnyvale)
Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Carderock, MD
Smithsonian Institution / EDS, Washington, DC
The United States Congress
The Foreign Ambassadors to the United States
United States Navy
GMD/Japan Research Laboratory Kitakyushu Japan
NAVSEA (US NAVY)
US Congress

Please post your response even if it's a one liner answer.
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« Reply #1573 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:48pm »

So, is this an L66 special? shocked

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« Reply #1574 on: Aug 24th, 2007, 2:51pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 2:39pm, nekitamo wrote:
'a summer well spent'


The title of his "A SUMMER STORY" leads me to believe that he's still in high school. I wouldn't be surprised to find that out. School goes back in this coming Monday for most of the country.
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