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« Reply #1605 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 03:06am »

I’ve heard the theory before (to my detriment I’m sure one of its aficionados was Lazaar) that there could be three or more anti-gravity propulsion devices on the base of the traditional saucer type UFO, and it could be as basic as alternating them for direction/velocity etc. This could account for the tilting/rocking motion. But I think that's faulted logic as it's trying to apply human understanding to alien technology. (Or try to make it fit.)

However it’s already being touched upon about how if they moved at the speed of light they could appear in two places briefly at once as reported, I think that’s probably closer to the truth, perhaps this could be done without affecting any of earths natural laws (sonic booms etc) by a matter change, to one of pure energy/light. Much like Sereda argues are present in the NASA Tether Incident clip.

But as for what caused the tilt, maybes the same clandestine piece of alien technology that rendered the Drones temporarily visible also temporarily affects the handling, or come to that temporarily affects everything.

Like a reset switch, meaning the Drone has to re-boot, this could explain it becoming visible, the strange clicking sounds sometimes heard, its apparent jerky motion, its eventual disappearance (i.e. when back online.)

If the device Isaac referenced is capable of affecting the alien technology to the degree of rendering it visible (which must be pretty high on the owners list of things that he doesn’t want!!) it’s certainly not inconceivable that it also affects the basic motor functions of the craft, if of course you accept it all as fact…….

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« Reply #1606 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 09:51am »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 4:24pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
You had it right but I'll reword it for anyone else who didn't get it.

This is a list of the clients that a CGI artist works for. Those clients pay his bills. If you were that CGI artist and asked to state whether something was a UFO or not in a photo, and considering who puts bread on your table, would you tell the truth if it was not CGI?
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I'll assume the CGI artist works for a contractor. In this case his management would not let him/her give a free assessment. The sponsor would have to agree to a new contract in order to fund the project, or add funds to a current contract because of the "change in scope". Since the sponsor is asking for an opinion, it would not matter if at the conclusion of this contract the opinion was real, hoax, or can't decide. The only thing certain is that the contractor will get paid and make a profit.
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« Reply #1607 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 12:49pm »

on Aug 24th, 2007, 8:14pm, Arkhangels wrote:
Like I just PMd OnTheFence, I think this point is important here too...

He made the image using the drone as reference to the movement, the result was this:

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And I made mine using the tree as reference to the movement, the result was that one in this page, here is the small:

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Conclusion, depending of the reference point in one sequence of images we can get different conclusions... So we need to look carefully to the right reference point, IMO tongue

In this case I think OnTheFence image is the right one because in mine the movement of the tree in the far left is different from the rest of the scene, proving a problem with the perspective maybe... huh

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Ark, this is great stuff!

The first gif appears to show the camera changed distance from the drone (closer and further), going more under the drone, then not.

The second gif (if it shows what I thinks it shows), appears to give one some perspective on the size of the drone. Since the camera shows the drone and trees from two vantage points. The background trees do not really change size, but the drone does. So one has to assume the drone is not gigantic. What do you think?

I believe this shows it better:

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« Reply #1608 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 1:26pm »

on Aug 23rd, 2007, 8:41pm, Latitude wrote:
OTF,

Here's my explanation of the "jerky motion". I read that and then I try to interpret it into a visual. I think what they are describing is the way in which the object changed course and velocity. It did so with instantaneous acceleration. In other words, when the object made a right turn it did not gradually adjust it's course like normal terrestrial objects do. It did not come to a stop and then shoot of in another direction. It was moving forward at a steady rate and instantaneously assumed a different course. We earthlings are not used to seeing things move like that because with our technology and understanding of the laws of physics it's not possible. The amount of energy necessary to overcome the inertia would be infinite? The g forces would be enough to destroy any structure.

So how do we describe something that can move unimpeded by Newton's laws of motion? We say it's "jerky". cheesy


Good point. I think that the Forward Only Time Travel will not explain the jerky motion as well as you did.

Also If time travel where possible, then the existence of an object would certainly occupy some new space and create a sound wave/boom on entry and exit into real time. This sound boom was not heard.

Another silly idea. If time travel did exist then the object could be cruising through time looking for something interesting (like the Yosemite report of the kids playing with the craft). When something interesting happened (like a weird radio frequency), the craft would switch to real time to investigate, then when it got bored it would switch to "fast time" mode.

This would mean that setting off weird radio signals and such may trigger the craft to re-appear, rather than just waiting around for it next May.
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« Reply #1609 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 1:51pm »

on Aug 20th, 2007, 2:11pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
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Is >this< the drone lit up?
HEY you guys. from the last 20 pages I as a student of you alls and had to grade your findings . I would have to give an A+ very good. Can I ask YOU look at this if you have not already.YOU are writing from my vision and some what on this video. I am not saying the video is real or fake. wink
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« Reply #1610 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 2:02pm »

on Aug 25th, 2007, 12:49pm, Marvin wrote:
Ark, this is great stuff!

The first gif appears to show the camera changed distance from the drone (closer and further), going more under the drone, then not.

The second gif (if it shows what I thinks it shows), appears to give one some perspective on the size of the drone. Since the camera shows the drone and trees from two vantage points. The background trees do not really change size, but the drone does. So one has to assume the drone is not gigantic. What do you think?


I think both of these animations are great. Good job guys.

I've always felt that the drone in this series of photos is something small (a few feet across), close to the camera, and it moves as though its being awkwardly balanced and turned on a pole (which was Photoshopped out before being made public).

This, or some other trickery, might become obvious if all the hi-rez photos were made available on the net by LMH. However, this may impact sales of the drone book which she most likely has in the works.

And who's to say that she won't fill all the pages in between drone photos with most of the messages and graphics from this board? I don't think any of these messages, nor most of the graphical illustrations, are copywritten.
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« Reply #1611 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 2:13pm »

on Aug 25th, 2007, 2:02pm, HopefulSkeptic wrote:
I think both of these animations are great. Good job guys.

I've always felt that the drone in this series of photos is something small (a few feet across), close to the camera, and it moves as though its being awkwardly balanced and turned on a pole (which was Photoshopped out before being made public).

This, or some other trickery, might become obvious if all the hi-rez photos were made available on the net by LMH. However, this may impact sales of the drone book which she most likely has in the works.

And who's to say that she won't fill all the pages in between drone photos with most of the messages and graphics from this board? I don't think any of these messages, nor most of the graphical illustrations, are copywritten.


I do not know if we can say hoax, it may be due to the movement of the drone. I was hopeful we could get some size info on this. But if everything is dynamic, it may be a lost cause.

I have my own theories, but I want to think about this some more.
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« Reply #1612 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 3:05pm »

grinon Aug 25th, 2007, 12:49pm, Marvin wrote:
Ark, this is great stuff!

The first gif appears to show the camera changed distance from the drone (closer and further), going more under the drone, then not.

The second gif (if it shows what I thinks it shows), appears to give one some perspective on the size of the drone. Since the camera shows the drone and trees from two vantage points. The background trees do not really change size, but the drone does. So one has to assume the drone is not gigantic. What do you think?


Yeah, that is a good point, but like I said, I think my image has a problem with the perspective, and that could cause some problems in analysing the drone size, BUT, I'm currently in work in some VERY GOOD STUFF, you guys can't even imagine!! I'm so excited grin grin
Soon I'll be posting this stuff, it will help us to answer a lot of things I think cheesy


PS: I think the only person with enough credentials, and knowledge about the Drone issue to make one interesting book (If he wanted to) is Didier from Ovnis-USA, since he is the only one that has reading all about the drones in the big websites like earthfiles and in the "grassroot level" websites like here UCB and in OMF.
IMO 80% of the work in the drones was and IS being made here and in OMF, so how could Linda write a book without even theories to give base to her ideas?? She didn't even know that the linguistic primer of Isaacs document was all over the Hi-Res pictures she had in hand in that month before she released ONE of the 12 pictures. And here and OMF we knew that one week before we had our hands in that ONE hi-res picture. Imagine what is hidden in those 11 that she do not even notice, and we could dechypher here in matter of days??
EDIT: People, I said "grassroot level" in the good way since here is the best place to learn and find things because we have 5000 heads to think, but the "big" websites have just a couple... 5000 heads thinks better than a couple I think grin

If Didier even think in writing a book about the drones, you bet I'll be the first in the bookstore... but Linda's book, without all of the work we did and we are doing here in the foruns?? Forget... She is too busy hidding the info from us, to even come here to read our thoughts and needs.
EDIT: I'd be the first in the bookstore since the book was translated to English OR Portuguese, don't forget I'm Brazilian wink


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« Reply #1613 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 3:56pm »

on Aug 25th, 2007, 3:05pm, Arkhangels wrote:
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so how could Linda write a book without even theories to give base to her ideas?? She didn't even know that the linguistic primer of Isaacs document was all over the Hi-Res pictures she had in hand in that month before she released ONE of the 12 pictures. And here and OMF we knew that one week before we had our hands in that ONE hi-res picture. Imagine what is hidden in those 11 that she do not even notice, and we could dechypher here in matter of days??
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Linda can always write a book. Whether or not it is a good one is to be seen. But why should this stop her from releasing the rest of the hi-res? She may think it's the prudent thing to do but she is wrong. It would help book sales if she DID release the hi-res. The more buzz she can generate about this topic the better. The last thing she should do is hold back and let it die down. Maybe she's waiting till the book is ready.

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« Reply #1614 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 4:06pm »

I really like ATO's idea of flooding the ABCnews forum. I have come to the conclusion that this type of thing is our best course of action. We need to get the word out in a big way. We need to contact as many news organizations that we can. I believe the witnesses including Isaac have been silenced. We need to do something to bring them out. If this story made the national media, there is a good chance it could snowball. If that happens then there would be a huge public outcry for Isaac to resurface. There might even be pressure put on the government to answer questions or release any info they might have regarding the drone case.

This is what must be done and it must be done now. Contact with Isaac must not be lost as he is the key to the entire case. It does not matter if he is sitting in a jail cell somewhere. It may happen that one of his associates may come forward on his behalf.

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« Reply #1615 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 4:11pm »

Sombody mention something about a STAR WARS intro to the drones... so I made one, and here it is:

Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Please comment on it wink

Any new ideas are welcome smiley

Edit: I've uploded it to google video to:
Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Enjoy wink
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Well, at least we know now that only two people in this forum want mainstream media to pick up on the drone/Isaac story. We were trumped by a cosmotolgy article (yes, things that have to do with your skin and hair) because only two members here besides myself have posted to the ABC discussion thread.

That's ok. At least I know there are two, it beats zero.
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« Reply #1617 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 4:52pm »

on Aug 25th, 2007, 4:11pm, RoH wrote:
Sombody mention something about a STAR WARS intro to the drones... so I made one, and here it is:

Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Please comment on it wink

Any new ideas are welcome smiley

Edit: I've uploded it to google video to:
Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Enjoy wink


OK first comment, you can't start with epsidoe 1 cheesy That allows for no prequels! wink
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on Aug 25th, 2007, 4:52pm, drewlac wrote:
OK first comment, you can't start with epsidoe 1 cheesy That allows for no prequels! wink


Ok, so do it like George Lucas! smiley

There is reports of drones from earlier years, so any suggestion. Episode...?

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« Reply #1619 on: Aug 25th, 2007, 5:59pm »

on Aug 25th, 2007, 4:11pm, RoH wrote:
Sombody mention something about a STAR WARS intro to the drones... so I made one, and here it is:

Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Please comment on it wink

Any new ideas are welcome smiley

Edit: I've uploded it to google video to:
Drones 2007 Intro -=RoH=-

Enjoy wink


I like it, I want to see more! cheesy
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