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« Reply #180 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 12:52pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:35pm, Fencesitter wrote:
This is a fun question!

I would suspect that there is a baseline energy cost to 'folding' space, and then an additional cost based on how far you're going. I think it's reasonable to expect that a typical craft could not generate *infinite* amounts of energy, so there would be a limit on how far it could travel in a particular "jump" (if that's even the way it works).

If Isaac is indeed real, this would be one of the first questions I would want to ask. How interstellar travel works (as far as he may or may not know anyway), and if he heard any 'scuttlebutt' about the possibilities of inter-galactic travel. Maybe intergalactic travel (if it's possible even for our advanced friends) requires enormous wormhole generators at each end or some such thing...

Certainly is a fun one to think about!


Why not, let's have aliitle fun w/ this. Maybe the drone is the end of a wormhole like a gate/gateway and the BB is a multi gateway w/ the largest hole having a power generator attach to open the worm hole and that's the thing hanging down.

OK case solved everybody can go home........
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« Reply #181 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:23pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:52pm, want2bleive wrote:
Why not, let's have aliitle fun w/ this. Maybe the drone is the end of a wormhole like a gate/gateway and the BB is a multi gateway w/ the largest hole having a power generator attach to open the worm hole and that's the thing hanging down.

OK case solved everybody can go home........


I think the cage on the drones is a giant bug catcher for capturing humans and taking them to Zeta Reticuli for cheap human labor.
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« Reply #182 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:28pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:09pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
Yesterday I propounded a theory, and I guess people missed it.

I believe, there will not be ANY MORE drone sightings.

WHY? Because, as cloaked devices, they were made visible by the HAARP grid. The HAARP grid has been turned OFF OVER where they were sighted.

There is no longer a white milky sky over Capitola, Big Basin, Saratoga. (Did you notice, the white (chemtrailed) sky behind drones in nearly every instance?) Chemtrails are OFF over Northern California right now.

The Feds having turned HAARP OFF, drones will no longer be seen to materialize due to cloaking failures.

That's my theory. Now, shoot me down.

: ) Chai

I've noticed we don't see anymore chemtrails over Paris. It must have stopped about a year ago. I remember last summer where I could see many and it's completely over now. I wasn't very sure chemtrails were a real thing, I thought a possible explanation was the increasing number of airplanes nowadays. Now that I can observe they're no longer in the sky, I have to admit there was something unusual.
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« Reply #183 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:35pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:23pm, StayFocused wrote:
I think the cage on the drones is a giant bug catcher for capturing humans and taking them to Zeta Reticuli for cheap human labor.


Look at it like a BB doorway to the BB galactic network

The top looks like a BB channel selector/ connection to the net
The bottom looks like a power source/generator for the device
The other rings maybe for the actual transfers

Think of it as a piece of hardware to connect to the galactic internet
It’s our own welcome mat to the universe.
The mayans had a game to get a ball through a ring sounds familiar.
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« Reply #184 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:41pm »


bakosawa, can you settle with that idea of Keith's?

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:32pm, Keith wrote:
Typically. tungsten bulbs are red shifted. Blue gels are used in front of the lights to brings the color balance back to white. So, back in the old days of color film, blue was the fix for indoor/artificial lighting. Same goes for video/motion picture lighting. Nowadays, the digital world corrects color balance. On the type of film used, Kodachrome was the best color rendition while Ektachrome could generate a BLUE cast if not perfectly exposed and development temperatures weren't held to +/- 1/2 degree. I developed and printed B/W back in the 60's, then tried color. Gave up on processing my own Ektachrome due to the blue cast.
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« Reply #185 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:45pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:05pm, LangLee wrote:
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Some are trying to figure it out, but the loudest ones you'll here are from the Earthbound Mentality types that can't see past the Moon.
Since there has been the discovery of a City under 250 ft of water off India, pottery, bones ect. I wonder what kind of lame ideas they will have about that.It's said to be 9,500 years old.


There is an internal logic to what you say about this issue. IF time/space/fabric can be bent or manipulated, then I suppose it makes no difference whether it is inter- or intra-galactic travel. On your second point, I do feel that we have other sentient beings cohabiting with us here, whether visitors, a parallel line of evolution or our pregenitors, we are not alone.
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« Reply #186 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:48pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 11:30am, MarkM wrote:
...Here are a couple to get you started:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1284&category=Environment
I believe the professor will also be interviewed on C2C Friday. There are several more, you'll just need to read through the threads.

Thanks.
Could you give me please <<Engineertype link from ATS>> too?
I'm agree with Arthur A. Reyes: <<I feel Isaac's
diagrammatic notation is more important than any other aspect of his website or this emerging story. >>
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« Reply #187 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:51pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:48pm, AlexK wrote:
Thanks.
Could you give me please <<Engineertype link from ATS>> too?
I'm agree with Arthur A. Reyes: <<I feel Isaac's
diagrammatic notation is more important than any other aspect of his website or this emerging story. >>


Here ya go.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg125
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« Reply #188 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 1:54pm »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:23pm, OnlookerDelay wrote:
MarkM, You linked to an ATS Forum post from a poster named "Engineering Type". That was the best break-down of the Isaac CARET document that I've seen. This guy sounds like he had an epiphany that has rocked his foundations. It helped me get a new perspective on the document and is definitely worth reading. Here's a link for those who may have missed it earlier. I can't recommend it highly enough!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg125


Hi Alex, welcome to the forum -- above is the link for the critique of the PACL documents from an engineer that posted on Above Top Secret's forum....
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« Reply #189 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 2:18pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:32pm, Keith wrote:
Typically. tungsten bulbs are red shifted. Blue gels are used in front of the lights to brings the color balance back to white. So, back in the old days of color film, blue was the fix for indoor/artificial lighting. Same goes for video/motion picture lighting. Nowadays, the digital world corrects color balance. On the type of film used, Kodachrome was the best color rendition while Ektachrome could generate a BLUE cast if not perfectly exposed and development temperatures weren't held to +/- 1/2 degree. I developed and printed B/W back in the 60's, then tried color. Gave up on processing my own Ektachrome due to the blue cast.



on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:41pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
bakosawa, can you settle with that idea of Keith's?



A "blue" filter at the light source is an option (our vis-light spectrophotometers use this)... but in the lab it's cheaper to use the filter on your camera lens... if you use the lens filter, you will not notice any blueness to the photos. If you use them at the light souce or the lens... I cannot see how Isaac's photos were done this way.

But this also brings us to the question, were the anti-grav photos taken with a 35mm or by a digital camera?

Since CCD bloom is caused by the either old tech digital cameras and some lens... if the Ty - Isaac photos are demonstrating the same light bleed over (at the same hue or wavelengths)... it even sounds like someone is backing the idea that the same camera was used for both sets of photos... due to having the same bleed over signatures due to bright backgrounds. But to be fair... bloom affects very small regions like boarders... and not whole objects or areas as in blue backgrounds or "feelers" (except if over enlarged). I think we may need to look elsewhere for the alternate answer. But let's wait and see what the experts say.


http://www.photomacrography2.net/photomacrography/Articles/Chromatic/chrom_abs.htm
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« Reply #190 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 2:37pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:35pm, want2bleive wrote:
Look at it like a BB doorway to the BB galactic network

The top looks like a BB channel selector/ connection to the net
The bottom looks like a power source/generator for the device
The other rings maybe for the actual transfers

Think of it as a piece of hardware to connect to the galactic internet
It’s our own welcome mat to the universe.
The mayans had a game to get a ball through a ring sounds familiar.


and last but not least, the writing on the panel on BB, all craft called the lingustic primer is not a primer but a universal road map and set of instructions just in case you finger fumbled your distination and pop out the other side of no where, got lost or get there by mistake. You could read the directions "you are here" and here's the map to help you get back on track. All of the smaller drone are advertising how to get to the BB like a http:// link "click here to find the BB" doorway to the universe. by the way I think it could transport any number of thing biological or non-biological.

you know I started this out as a play on words but it's starting to make sense...spooky in a 6th sense kind of way...
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« Reply #191 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:07pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 11:35am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Am I in the UFO Casebook forum? I feel as if I entered a skeptic forum suddenly.


They say that "under a microscope there is no indication of a supporting structure of any kind", but after some playing with light levels this is what I get:

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So it's either an archaic drone dangling from the wires that looks exactly like that lamp... or it's a lamp. Take your pick...
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« Reply #192 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:33pm »

I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing wink) about the massive amount of CGI investigation that's been done - here and on OM - and I'd just like to share a few thoughts:

With enough artistic skill and todays advanced graphic programs, I can replicate a photograph taken during the Civil War. I can also, with an extra dash of creativity, create a document that looks like a letter that was written during that same War. My ability to replicate something that already exists in history, does not negate the reality of the event itself. My hoaxed photo is not evidence that there were no genuine photos taken during the Civil War. My letter to home does not mean that all letters from that same time period are fake. All it means is that I have the tools and the talent to fake something myself. That's all the exercise proves. Thankfully, in regard to the Civil War, we have witnesses who have spoken of the events that transpired. Unless, of course, they were all actors, part of a great conspiracy. My point is this - I have no first hand experience of this event. I wasn't there, nor were any of my friends. If I were bound and determined to reject the reality of the Civil War, and my only criteria of proof were photographic and anecdotal evidence, I could - based on today's resources - argue this crazy idea. If you think that this is a far fetched example, sadly, there are those who are doing just that in regard to the holocaust. Back to our drones ....

While it's necessary to examine the evidence in detail, it's also important - and I use the above as an example - to examine the whole event. I think this is why it's frustrating to see individuals get stuck in the "CGI Rut". Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think that angle has been pretty thoroughly raked over the coals. There is no conclusive proof that the original images are, beyond all doubt, faked. There is proof - as some on other forums are continually demonstrating - that the photos can be replicated (sort of). There is proof that the linguistic primer can be duplicated (sort of). OK, but what answers does that really provide us with?

If you can't get past the photo/graphics hump, may I suggest taking it to a more basic level? Listen to the witness testimony. Read what the experts have to say in regard to the plausibility of the technology. View this entire drones enigma as one "picture". More importantly, look at it in context with other indicators of ET involvement with our culture. Does it fit? Is it possible?

At some point I think that we have to step away from the microscope and turn to the telescope instead. A drop of water can be endlessly fascinating, but not nearly as fascinating as the ocean.

At the end of the day, I think we'll all come out stronger for this entire exercise. At the very least - think of all the new friends we've made!
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« Reply #193 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:35pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 2:40pm, StayFocused wrote:


I agree with StayFocused... (just cut back on the coffee... a little grin).

I know I am not looked upon with kind eyes, because of my approach .

I have suggested a scientific approach... and to approach this from all angles… theorize if it real, theorize if it is fake. Once you come up with the theory… try to disprove the theory (what ever side you take). I do not suggest to blindly accept everything posted… by myself or anyone else. Test it, then test it again.

It does not matter which side of the debate you side with, neither side has anything to fear… except the truth (that is, if one is not looking for the truth).

And would like thank the Forum for allowing all view points and opinions to be (civilly) discussed. I have learned a great deal here… and there are a lot of good folks here. Hopefully, the "wheat will separated from the chaff" and we will know the answers to the questions we are asking.
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« Reply #194 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:41pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 3:35pm, bakosawa wrote:
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Speaking of which, what is your comment on Keith's comment about the blue overtones that exceed beyond the shadows?
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