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« Reply #195 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:44pm »

I agree with MarkM.

You cannot look only at the photos themselves while negating all the other factors. If you are doing this in a step-by-step proceedure, then fair enough, now work on all the other details of the case to make your whole conclusion. But to stay with one detail only and base a conclusion off of this alone, I think is what is not settling well with some.

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I'm sorry I do not see where you are going with the 1945 picture. I think you are looking at a photo from 1945, there will be many such spots in an old photo like that, heck crystal clear photos have not really been achieved untill recently with the digital cameras.

I see that the lamp looks similar to the UFO, but that doesn't mean they are in fact the same thing. It is easy to find a look alike object for anything if one tries hard enough.

I think a negative of the 1945 photo would solve that case as the UFO would either be there, or not. If not, then perhaps someone photoshoped it in at a later date. if the UFO IS in the negative, then it's a UFO, IMO.
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« Reply #196 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:54pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 2:18pm, bakosawa wrote:
But this also brings us to the question, were the anti-grav photos taken with a 35mm or by a digital camera?

Spf33 on Open Minds forum "proved" the anti-gravity device was photographed with a 35mm.
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« Reply #197 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 4:33pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 3:54pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
Spf33 on Open Minds forum "proved" the anti-gravity device was photographed with a 35mm.
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That refers to a 35mm lens not a 35mm camera! wink
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« Reply #198 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 5:34pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:23pm, StayFocused wrote:
I think the cage on the drones is a giant bug catcher for capturing humans and taking them to Zeta Reticuli for cheap human labor.


Sounds like an Italian pasta dish.
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« Reply #199 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 5:47pm »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:10pm, Fencesitter wrote:
I don't know where you're getting your color sample data from, but Photoshop disagrees:

I obtained values ranging from 220-228 all around the perimeter of the I-Beams using the Eyedropper tool (photos taken directly from fotunecity without edit). Nothing in the shadows came near the hue level you're saying you obtained (somehow). No offence, but I think you're simply trying to eyeball a color match and calling it authoritative.


I am not calling it authoritative...

Did you run the same thing on the hi-res blue sections?

I would like to see the post on it too please.

Edit... BTW, that is the same method I used with Paintbrush...
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« Reply #200 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 5:57pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 02:36am, isawaufooverparis wrote:
I think that's what happened to me about the Majestic documents, I read somewhere they were fake and stopped trying to know more about. But now I've added a link to the website where they are and I'm going to investigate them by myself.


This is an issue that bothers me... once something (let's say) Majestic is deemed fake... does that mean everything Majestic is fake?

I believe some folks think this way.
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« Reply #201 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:08pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 5:57pm, bakosawa wrote:
This is an issue that bothers me... once something (let's say) Majestic is deemed fake... does that mean everything Majestic is fake?

I believe some folks think this way.

No, because they've found that one of the eleven document tested was real (written by the person who signed)... The more I think about this test, the more I find it biased.
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« Reply #202 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:10pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 11:11am, isawaufooverparis wrote:
It is a street lamp!


Over the cars.....yes, it's supported.
Over the horses' mane, forward of the bedroll in the background on the other horse.....not a street lamp.
That is flatland, you can see a telephone pole behind the horses butt. There isn't suddenly a huge hill behind them.
We don't have floating streetlamps now, sure didn't in '45.
Now I must admit it does look like the lamp in the picture. Ugly as it is I would've flung that baby too, maybe someone did just as the picture was taken.
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« Reply #203 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:16pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 6:08pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
No, because they've found that one of the eleven document tested was real (written by the person who signed)... The more I think about this test, the more I find it biased.


Yesterday someone posted a link to a story about that deal.
Something like you pay $19.95, it's a something to do with a book, I'll go see if I can find.
I read it at 2:30 am, letters were just bouncing off of my eyeballs.
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« Reply #204 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:41pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 5:47pm, bakosawa wrote:
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Bakosawa: What I said earlier you didn't get. Did you agree with Keith's finding was my question.

Keith said: tungsten bulbs are red shifted. Blue gels are used in front of the lights to brings the color balance back to white. So, back in the old days of color film, blue was the fix for indoor/artificial lighting. Same goes for video/motion picture lighting. Nowadays, the digital world corrects color balance. On the type of film used, Kodachrome was the best color rendition while Ektachrome could generate a BLUE cast if not perfectly exposed and development temperatures weren't held to +/- 1/2 degree. I developed and printed B/W back in the 60's, then tried color. Gave up on processing my own Ektachrome due to the blue cast.
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« Reply #205 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:42pm »

Today NASA;REPORTS SABOTAGE OF SPACE COMPUTER,ALSO ASTONAUGHTS, AND ALCHOHOL WHILE ON MISSION IN SPACE.
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« Reply #206 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 6:54pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 08:00am, DrDil wrote:
Bakosawa, I fear you misunderstood my intentions.


Unfortunately... I am at a location during the day where some sites are blocked and I can not see the photos... embarassed Sorry.

Interesting idea. If shot out of an 135mm camera on a blue mat, where did the blue go around the outer perimeter?

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« Reply #207 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 7:33pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 6:54pm, bakosawa wrote:


Unfortunately... I am at a location during the day where some sites are blocked and I can not see the photos... embarassed Sorry.

Interesting idea. If shot out of an 135mm camera on a blue mat, where did the blue go around the outer perimeter?


Perhaps the mat (or blue lighting) didnít stretch the length of the floor, but only as far as the device.

You didnít answer my question though as to whether you thought this idea might have been used as a practical solution to counter the effects of the shadows, for purposes of clarity.

Or is this unheard of or impossible, I genuinely donít know, that question was the intention of the original post.
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on Jul 26th, 2007, 7:33pm, DrDil wrote:
Perhaps the mat (or blue lighting) didnít stretch the length of the floor, but only as far as the device.

You didnít answer my question though as to whether you thought this idea might have been used as a practical solution to counter the effects of the shadows, for purposes of clarity.

Or is this unheard of or impossible, I genuinely donít know, that question was the intention of the original post.


If it is a mat, I can not detect the borders of the mat... it fades into white (nor the wall corners you proposed). If the blue is caused by lighting, one would think the white lettering would reflect the same blue color as the white floor. I can not resolve this (as a photo), but was hoping someone else could.

If no one can resolve it, what are we left with?
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« Reply #209 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 7:57pm »

on Jul 26th, 2007, 7:51pm, bakosawa wrote:
If it is a mat, I can not detect the borders of the mat... it fades into white (nor the wall corners you proposed). If the blue is caused by lighting, one would think the white lettering would reflect the same blue color as the white floor.


If it was lit from below, that wouldnít necessarily affect the lettering. But I guess itís a stretch, did you see ATOís post?

on Jul 26th, 2007, 6:41pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Bakosawa: What I said earlier you didn't get. Did you agree with Keith's finding was my question.

Keith said: tungsten bulbs are red shifted. Blue gels are used in front of the lights to brings the color balance back to white. So, back in the old days of color film, blue was the fix for indoor/artificial lighting. Same goes for video/motion picture lighting. Nowadays, the digital world corrects color balance. On the type of film used, Kodachrome was the best color rendition while Ektachrome could generate a BLUE cast if not perfectly exposed and development temperatures weren't held to +/- 1/2 degree. I developed and printed B/W back in the 60's, then tried color. Gave up on processing my own Ektachrome due to the blue cast.
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