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« Reply #285 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:09pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:00pm, VonStern wrote:
Open to suggestions, please!

Read this website. It answers all your questions.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

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« Reply #286 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:18pm »

I agree with those of you who think the Isaac/drone story may be petering out. In the absence of anything new---or some bravery on the part of anyone connected to the story---where is there left to go. Over four threads now, you have all brilliantly dissected every morsel of information given out to us, but this could be going the way of most other sightings/episodes: a slow fade to black. I truly hope not. I had such high hopes that this could be THE ONE! cry
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« Reply #287 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:20pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:00pm, VonStern wrote:
There IS one thing here, that has tormented me...aside from all other fact.

Why this Visible/Invisible thing?

I might have overlooked that in earlier posts..

I'm sure the DoE has no reason to "Cloak" their devices?

Maybe there are something in here, not spoken of....

The statements from eyewitnesses said that they (the Drones) disappeared or vanished?

If this is proven true, I might lean on, that things at hand here are more than just DoE activity, maybe other branches are around and has a finger in this as well..

Open to suggestions, please!

--VonStern


One of the Isaac docs, labeled "pacl-q486-report-p2", list a section called "Executive summry of Q4-86" Item #2 "Three-dimensional image recorder/projector"

Not sure, but this may be the source of "invisibility.

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« Reply #288 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:22pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:09pm, Latitude wrote:
Read this website. It answers all your questions.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/



I ofcourse know this, point taken, but in relavance to Electrical Powered Engines, cloaking is as seen from engineers point of view not possible if in a high voltage environment, as stated before, it might be the REASON these crafts revealed themselves....

This is the enigma...if Powerlines are the course of "Decloaking"...why the need for this if DoE know of this?

This just open a new path of thinking?

To set things straight, I was not the only one suggesting this in the first place. Just bringing it up again, as it might be a clue.

Am I right?

--VonStern
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« Reply #289 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:31pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:18pm, starsigndavid wrote:
I had such high hopes that this could be THE ONE! cry


How about - one in a series of steps leading to THE ONE? The final revelation, as it were, won't hinge on a single event. We started this journey toward contact decades ago, and the pace has quickened. Very dramatically this year alone. The greatest "truth tool" (although it can also be used to spread lies) is the internet. It connects us all in a way that was never possible when this phenomenon first caught our attention. In a matter of seconds, a sighting in Arizona can be shared with millions of people around the world. Hardly a week goes by when there isn't a report of a UFO from somewhere. The awareness level among the general population, as is evident in recent poll numbers, is higher than it's ever been. The Genie is out of the bottle - and she's not about to pop back in!
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« Reply #290 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:32pm »

When high-res BB picture was recently acquired from LMH, all current discussions were interrupted and everyone went to analyze this new data. I'll try to continue one of those discussions here.

Someone at OM forum pointed out the following clip from The Disclosure Project with Brigadier General Lovekin's testimony:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4694075066240662837

Here's a partial transcript, more available here:
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"Colonel Hollobard [sp? perhaps Hollogard or Holloberg] brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic -- it was a metallic piece of -- it looked like a yardstick. It had deciphering--it had encryption on it. He did describe them as being symbols of instruction. And that's as far as he would go. But he did infer that the instructions, whatever they might have been, were something that was important enough for the military to keep working on on a constant basis."

Further on, Lovekin also mentions this:
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"He said it had been taken from one of the craft that had crashed in New Mexico. It had been taken from a box of materials that the military was working on. They didn't use the word reverse engineering at that time, but it was something similar to the reverse engineering they felt like they needed to work on and that it was going to take years to do this."

So, Brigadier General Lovekin mentions the "symbols of instruction" (=Isaac's symbols?) and "something similar to the reverse engineering" (=extraction?). This is the best independent confirmation of Isaac's documents that I'm aware of so far, even without the exact terms. Do you know better?

Here's a thought: if this "symbols of instruction" were first acquired at Roswell crash in 1947, and were worked on "on a constant basis" in 1959 when Lovekin found about them, and were still worked on in 1987 in Isaac's time... does that mean than 40 years weren't enough time to decipher them? Remember, "it was going to take years to do this".

We can't really see any of Q4-1984 report items in commercial use today, so perhaps project CARET also failed. Is it possible that, despite all efforts, 60 years have passed without any significant "extraction packages"?
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« Reply #291 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:32pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:00pm, VonStern wrote:
There IS one thing here, that has tormented me...aside from all other fact.
I'm sure the DoE has no reason to "Cloak" their devices?
--VonStern


It was never proven that the drones are DoE. or DoD. Isaac said that they were mining the technology for future use in commercial applications.... he never said that the US government is the one who is flying around the drones. The drones all look alien to me. With one exception that, in my opinion, looks more back-engineered and that is the "smith" drone taken over the powerlines at the construction site. That one looks more metallic and does not have alien writing on it. I believe it's called the "Alabama drone" which the man who saw one in a hangar in the 90's said it looked most like the Alabama drone. Those, I beleive are back-engineered and who knows WHICH agency are using those. "They" (government) could be using them for spying.
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« Reply #292 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:40pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:32pm, nekitamo wrote:
Here's a thought: if this "symbols of instruction" were first acquired at Roswell crash in 1947, and were worked on "on a constant basis" in 1959 when Lovekin found about them, and were still worked on in 1987 in Isaac's time... does that mean than 40 years weren't enough time to decipher them?



Right. because the government couldn't really do anything until the dawn of the artificial intelligence/computer linguistics movement. algorithms and the lisp system etc. And, you can see how all of this technology began in the Palo Alto and/or Silicon Valley areas around that time and PACL brought in all of the "geeks" (sorry Isaac lol) from university graduate, fellows and doctorate programs that were on the cutting edge of computer science and computer languaging to decipher it. Even with the dawn of this era, they still didn't have computers fast enough to compute all of the language to figure it out completely because of the infinite nature of the beast. But... I can guarantee you this... if you research all of the history of PARC... XPARC XEROX and the like (maybe even Hewlett Packard AND even Microsoft!!) you will find that in the mid to late 80's there WAS indeed technology being filtered out in commercial applications based on what these scientists were eeking out in the lab. Windows.... the Internet.... the list goes on and on.
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« Reply #293 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:46pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:31pm, MarkM wrote:
How about - one in a series of steps leading to THE ONE?


I sure hope so... this is so exciting and interesting.

Mark -- I wanted to congratulate you on becoming a Global Moderator. I think that is awesome, and I know that you will do a fine job for us here! Thank you for all of your patience and dilligence that got you were you are now! You will make a good, diplomatic leader.
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« Reply #294 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:50pm »

Is coast to coast a subscription site? It seems they want $6.95 a month to listen. So only subscribers can listen to the show tonight. Either that or I'm a dummy and can't figure it out.

Can someone post the highlights.

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« Reply #295 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:50pm »

Nice tie-in nekitemo. Pieces of the puzzle are all around it just we must peice them together ourselves. wink
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« Reply #296 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:52pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:18pm, starsigndavid wrote:
I agree with those of you who think the Isaac/drone story may be petering out. In the absence of anything new---or some bravery on the part of anyone connected to the story---where is there left to go. Over four threads now, you have all brilliantly dissected every morsel of information given out to us, but this could be going the way of most other sightings/episodes: a slow fade to black. I truly hope not. I had such high hopes that this could be THE ONE! cry


Oh, but it still can! Nothing in here (or elsewere, for that matter) says differently!

There are so many things unanswered, that this still can be true, we're just working on possibilities, that's all!

I for one, will be convinced, when the Linguistic Primers provided by "Isaac" are revealed as a fraud...then this whole thread are ended by the strike of it!

No, we can't be sure, until it ends... grin

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« Reply #297 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:58pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:22pm, VonStern wrote:
I ofcourse know this, point taken, but in relavance to Electrical Powered Engines, cloaking is as seen from engineers point of view not possible if in a high voltage environment, as stated before, it might be the REASON these crafts revealed themselves....

This is the enigma...if Powerlines are the course of "Decloaking"...why the need for this if DoE know of this?

This just open a new path of thinking?

To set things straight, I was not the only one suggesting this in the first place. Just bringing it up again, as it might be a clue.

Am I right?

--VonStern


These things have nothing to do with power lines. It's an incorrect assumption.
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« Reply #298 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 8:59pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:40pm, castles4me wrote:
But... I can guarantee you this... if you research all of the history of PARC... XPARC XEROX and the like (maybe even Hewlett Packard) you will find that in the mid to late 80's there WAS indeed technology being filtered out in commercial applications based on what these scientists were eeking out in the lab.


If there's such technological gap that they were nowhere near comprehension even after 40 years, perhaps those new technologies were just a byproduct of this research - i.e. some tools invented for better analysis, or such.
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« Reply #299 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 9:01pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 8:50pm, danblast wrote:
Is coast to coast a subscription site? It seems they want $6.95 a month to listen. So only subscribers can listen to the show tonight. Either that or I'm a dummy and can't figure it out.

Can someone post the highlights.

Thanks
you see ato. I cant ride around in my truck to listen. I gave my daughter her radio,dvd player. grin
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