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« Reply #375 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 12:29pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 01:45am, starsigndavid wrote:
I saw that on a SciFi Channel series, THE UFO FILES, which dealt with sighting by astronauts and pilots. I believe she referred to "the alien craft still being in sight", then the transmission switched over to the secret, classified channel.


Not alleged, I have the clip on video somewhere. When I find it I'll post it. It actually showed her looking and transmitting........
It did happen.
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« Reply #376 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 12:36pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 07:37am, inex wrote:
Hi,

If it is any use to this debate, I can reveal that I am the witness who filmed the Farnborough, Hampshire, UK, triangle of lights on Sunday, July 22nd that LMH discussed on the latest Coast to Coast radio broadcast...I have spoken with her at length on the telephone and received various e-mail correspondances from her as well and found her to be one of the most diligent and conscientious reporters that anyone could imagine.
The lengths that this lady goes to obtain evidence is quite incredible...
On one occasion I took the opportunity to ask her from one researcher to another, whether she wholeheartedly believes that the Isaac, Chad, Big Basin etc "Drone" mystery is true, or just a clever hoax as many have claimed... and she has told me that she had no doubts that it is all "real".
Unlike many other researchers in this field Linda does everything that she can to provide us with the finest ufo information.


I'm a bit behind but I'd like to welcome you to the Casebook and congrats on the video.
What is up with the Cops there, they totally didn't say what everyone else said happened, did someone get to them ?
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« Reply #377 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 12:48pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 07:46am, OnlookerDelay wrote:
I truly envy you! I've seen one "green fireball" in my life, and that's been the extent of my UFO experience.


I wish you were with me and my girlfriend at the time in 1986.
We chased one after watching it hover over a hospital.
8 deep blood red lights visible from a distance, but if you got under it the thing was filled with white lights.At no time did the lights illuminate the area around themselves, I thought that was crazy as bright as they were.
We chased it, got stuck at a traffic light near a lake, do you know the damned thing waited for us, my girl was freaking out , trying to get out of the car. The white lights were visible in the reflection of of the lake. Since I lived in the area I went back the next day , it was 600 feet from us over the lake, and 4 inches long at arms length.
I didn't have to report it to the police, they were in front of my house with 15 of my neighbors looking at it. When I said I was going to chase it they said...."we tried, couldn't keep up with it at all. They told me to let my girl watch it while I drove so I wouldn't get into an accident, and he said good luck.
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« Reply #378 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 12:51pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 09:52am, MarkM wrote:
Judging from the replies by individuals such as Saladfingers (the prolific CGI artist) on the OM thread, Isaac's emails fell on deaf ears. Something I'm sure he anticipated. I think his comments were aimed more at helping the fencesitters to better understand things.

I'll go out on a limb and predict that we'll see some new info in the next week or so.


Answering the skeptics is always going to fall on deaf ears because they are not interested in hearing it. They only want to convince others their side is correct. It's a waste of time to answer them. They are afraid of the changes that come out of this knowledge.
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« Reply #379 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 12:59pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 04:03am, DrDil wrote:
Perhaps itís because she canít (legally) copyright her page <which she does at the bottom> without referencing her sources, be they anonymous or not.

Iím not sure if it was on her site, but Iíve seen the Rajman images copyrighted to the Flickr account which was hacked and subsequently shut down, but the copyright remained.


I looked it up. It turns out that one cannot inforce a copyright and remain anonymous. So if someone began profiting by sell Chad pics, Chad would have to come out and file motion (with his full name) in a court to sue.
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« Reply #380 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 1:01pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 09:50am, urantia606 wrote:
In defence of LMH, she may have wanted Isaac to silence the critics once and for all. Now she can moved on to other issues with him.

Also, and this is important, Isaac was listening to the program last night.....therefore LMH was very careful what she said about her other contacts. I'm sure she doesn't want to spook him any more than he already is. She has to play her hand very carefully with Isaac. I'm sure she would love to have Isaac talk on the phone but he's just not ready to do that.

Just my thoughts and ATO you make some very good points also.



I liked the fact that he put those people straight, I hated hearing this didn't happen then and you couldn't get this equipment, total BS, if you had the money the technology was available. This I knew from my late '70's work with Intel and Texas Instuments on Sputtering Technology, and Cryogenics, but it wouldn't have mattered what anyone said to them. Other's tried to no avail.
It's tough dealing with False Gods of Knowledge.
Oh, the part about knowing how aliens think was priceless, I got a big kick outta that LOL.
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« Reply #381 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 1:39pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 1:01pm, LangLee wrote:
Oh, the part about knowing how aliens think was priceless, I got a big kick outta that LOL.


It's sad that Isaac was even bothered with it in the first place. LMH should be ashamed to even forward that kind of obsurdity on to him. She should know better. I'm pissed. angry

When I think about all of the emails I (and many other openminded people) have sent her asking valid thoughtful questions and she latches onto that nonsense to forward to him, it upsets me.
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« Reply #382 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 1:50pm »

I'm sure this has been discussed before but in regard to the critique article ( http://www.ufocasebook.com/critiquedronephotographs.html ) and its discussion of pixelation : how can that assessment be made from analysis of lossy images without taking that in to account ? I see nothing wrong with the pixelation given the lossy nature of the images themselves to begin with.

Anyway... I'm sure this has been already addressed in the plethora of outpouring about this topic.

I'm hoping for either more information or a conclusive answer soon. Leaning towards more information at the moment.
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« Reply #383 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:09pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 1:39pm, Latitude wrote:
It's sad that Isaac was even bothered with it in the first place. LMH should be ashamed to even forward that kind of obsurdity on to him. She should know better. I'm pissed. angry

When I think about all of the emails I (and many other openminded people) have sent her asking valid thoughtful questions and she latches onto that nonsense to forward to him, it upsets me.


I'll play the devil's advocate here. What if that's her way of prodding him to either come foward or release more information to counter their claims. Granted it could backfire but it also may light a fire underneath his fanny.
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« Reply #384 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:41pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 2:09pm, GForce wrote:
I'll play the devil's advocate here. What if that's her way of prodding him to either come forward or release more information to counter their claims. Granted it could backfire but it also may light a fire underneath his fanny.


I don't see the validity of that reasoning at all. When I put myself into Isaac's shoes I am more likely to say "To heck with it. If even the researcher does not believe me then why am I sticking my neck out? They don't seem to want what I have to offer".

A better course of action would be to rally around him with overwhelming support backed by an enthusiastic public following.
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« Reply #385 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:43pm »

on Jul 27th, 2007, 7:17pm, VonStern wrote:
If This link (BB Photo's / Caret Primer) can be established as either a hoax or proven valid, it will end all discussion regarding this matter.

Just my opinion,

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Well yeah of course it would.
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« Reply #386 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:51pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 2:41pm, Latitude wrote:
I don't see the validity of that reasoning at all. When I put myself into Isaac's shoes I am more likely to say "To heck with it. If even the researcher does not believe me then why am I sticking my neck out? They don't seem to want what I have to offer".

A better course of action would be to rally around him with overwhelming support backed by an enthusiastic public following.


Latitude don't get me wrong, I didn't say I agreed with it. I don't! I was just trying to understand her reasoning. It just sounds like she was trying to use reverse psychology to either get a stir out of him or more likely additional information.
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« Reply #387 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:53pm »

on Yesterday at 14:50:35, bakosawa wrote:

Looking at the Ty photos (especially at the high-res) and the Isaac photos, two things just jump out at meÖ a solid white (lacking detail) background (you just do not see this in photos)

It is not easy to get a solid white background that tops the RGB scale, without having variation, somewhere in the field of vision. I canít do it.


on Jul 27th, 2007, 3:30pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
But others can with a HDR type of camera...
An example there


Re-read what I said (It is not easy to get a solid white background that tops the RGB scale, without having variation, somewhere in the field of vision.) and look at the picture again (click on "An example here")Ö at the upper right and left corners. These are the sky details that are missing in the Ty photos. Thank you for helping me to prove my point.

on Jul 27th, 2007, 3:47pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
I work all day long on Xpress, Photoshop and Illustrator (in a small communication agency) and I find the hoax (if it is one) is very very convincing. It's not frank (tongue) to say the opposite.
It is the first time, as far as I know that a hoax (if it is one) contains texts (in the shape of a real "book"), pictures, illustrations (all very well done) and witnesses. I'm not sure it's real (actually, I say this because I don't want to be disappointed if it's proven to be fake but I feel it's true).
The Ty's photos are on a white background but Raj and Chads' aren't. What is your opinion about it?


I have not said that Raj or Chadís are fake or realÖ I will let someone who is more CGI literate investigate that.
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« Reply #388 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 2:58pm »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 1:39pm, Latitude wrote:
It's sad that Isaac was even bothered with it in the first place. LMH should be ashamed to even forward that kind of obsurdity on to him. She should know better. I'm pissed. angry

When I think about all of the emails I (and many other openminded people) have sent her asking valid thoughtful questions and she latches onto that nonsense to forward to him, it upsets me.


If we were talking with him and someone asked him "why did they build the craft that way, it isn't aerodynamic ? ", I would be embarassed to be in the same room when that was asked.
The comparison of our wings ,propellers ,and jet engines, to something that doesn't require such devices nauseates me to no end.
The thing my girl and I saw went from about 150 feet off of the ground to a pin point in about 2.5 to 3 seconds from a stand still, don't think aerodynamics had anything to do with that.
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« Reply #389 on: Jul 28th, 2007, 3:03pm »

bakosawa I swear that I saw someone post a pic they took at an airshow with a white-out background and you commented on that too.
I'm not critisizing you, it just keeps on feeling like "Groundhog Day" when I read one of your posts.
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