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« Reply #420 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 08:39am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 12:52am, Latitude wrote:
My guess is plasma discharge. Some kind of electrical effect.

Sorry to disagree Castles but I don't believe the object is man made. It's way beyond anything we have including all of Nasa. There's also the point that if it were man made it would not be flying over a populated area. That's never been the MO for black projects. I think the white trailers were probably for installing fibre optics and are not related to the drone.

Accept it. We are being visited on a routine basis.


I do accept it, Lat... I believe in the drones and Isaac! I just think this particular drone is back-engineered because it does not have the alien writing on it and it looks way different. It looks like a cheap imitation of the real thing, basically.

Government could fly it over a populated area if they were using it to spy on terrorist cells or mobsters or something. 20 years have gone by since the CARET days, surely they figured out how to make and fly something similar to the drones and use it for a purpose.
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« Reply #421 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 08:42am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 08:23am, brm1 wrote:
Put another way all white trucks have to have advertising on them. Probably not.


All white trucks ? No not personal vehicles......
But vehicles from companies that provide a service, cable, phone, electric, ect. If they are parked on the street repairing something the vehicle must be indentifiable.
I called a private cable contractor friend, he said no matter what company he contracts he MUST display their signage on his vehicle at all times, and display proper ID.
At least here in NY.
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« Reply #422 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 09:08am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 08:42am, LangLee wrote:
All white trucks ? No not personal vehicles......
But vehicles from companies that provide a service, cable, phone, electric, etc. If they are parked on the street repairing something the vehicle must be identifiable.
I called a private cable contractor friend, he said no matter what company he contracts he MUST display their signage on his vehicle at all times, and display proper ID.
At least here in NY.
If I was hiring the cable guy then yes I would want him to identify his truck as being a subcontractor to me ... that is a whole lot different than the state REQUIRING that a service van has some form of advertising on the truck. I did a quick look, not found. The law would have to describe the size location a minimum wording required otherwise not really a law. That means that you can't say that service trucks must be identifiable.

There ya go -- DOT trumps cable guy

https://www.nysdot.gov/portal/page/portal/divisions/operating/osss/truck/registration-licensing
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« Reply #423 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 10:12am »

Thank you castles4me, that is exactly what I was talking about. The Birmingham Drone has been dismissed and "John Smith", if he has read anything on a certain site, must fill like a complete fool for ever having bothered to send in his sighting. The white globe is barely visible in the photo from LMH, so a hoaxer put in the white globe to show up later with a certain kind of filter that might one day be used. If this is true, then we have a very clever hoaxer. Castle4me, i always enjoy your posts.
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« Reply #424 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 10:13am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 01:17am, Latitude wrote:
I saw this post on Whitley Strieber's forum. Very interesting stuff. Some of it is pretty far out. Should I invite the guy to come here and elaborate?


This is not to be interpreted as any kind of judgment! Just a heads up on where this individual is most likely going in his revelations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

The posters system ideas are very intriguing. Strieber and his wife are out drone hunting this week, it will interesting to see what they come back with!
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« Reply #425 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 10:30am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 01:17am, Latitude wrote:
I saw this post on Whitley Strieber's forum. Very interesting stuff. Some of it is pretty far out. Should I invite the guy to come here and elaborate?

Umm... Doesn't Isaac say in the email to that C2C lady that the schematic is taken from an interior panel of an entirely different craft? He's looking at one picture, comparing it to a wholly different piece of hardware and mixing in an extremely liberal dose of conjecture.

I think this dude is off his rocker personally...
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« Reply #426 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 10:47am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 10:30am, Fencesitter wrote:
Umm... Doesn't Isaac say in the email to that C2C lady that the schematic is taken from an interior panel of an entirely different craft? He's looking at one picture, comparing it to a wholly different piece of hardware and mixing in an extremely liberal dose of conjecture.

I think this dude is off his rocker personally...

Why is that? Isaac did compare the linguistics to that which he saw on the Big Basin drone and who is to say that there aren't more linguistics on the inside of the piece that we're looking at. He mentions that they wanted a flat surface. You do realize that he never did supply us with pictures of this particular piece, however the pictures he did supply do match up to the Big Basin drone. For that matter, to look at what's on the tarmac, there are a lot of items missing. Where's the fin? He also mentions the difficulty in obtaining some artifacts to work with.
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« Reply #427 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 10:50am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 08:39am, castles4me wrote:
Government could fly it over a populated area if they were using it to spy on terrorist cells or mobsters or something.


Why would a government want to spy on themselves?
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« Reply #428 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 11:04am »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 10:30am, Fencesitter wrote:
Umm... Doesn't Isaac say in the email to that C2C lady that the schematic is taken from an interior panel of an entirely different craft? He's looking at one picture, comparing it to a wholly different piece of hardware and mixing in an extremely liberal dose of conjecture.

I think this dude is off his rocker personally...


With the Icke tie in, I would have to agree.
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« Reply #429 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 11:11am »

on Jul 28th, 2007, 01:37am, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
I want to make a change in the project and include a transmission that was (allegedly) sent from one of the STS missions to houston by a female astronaut stating "We still have the ufo in sight" or something along those lines...does anyone know where I can find that recording?

Thanks in advance.


I saw that on YouTube only last week in with the other NASA-ufo video clips.

Never mind; I'll go see if I can find it again. Worth the trouble. : )

http://digg.com/space/UFO_On_NASA_Control_Room_Screen_VIDEO (bandwidth exceeded right now)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Zj_hrB_l8

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5980990221766439646&total=29&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 The screen shot is in here, but without the audio-over

:shrug: These are just all the screen shot of the "alien spacecraft," which I believe, as Martyn Stubbs and Trevor James Constable, that this is a natural Space Being, not a space CRAFT.



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« Reply #430 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 11:19am »

CentralScrutinizer could you please re post the link to your video project? I didn't have a chance to check it out the other night and now I can't find the link (still waking up). Thanks!
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« Reply #431 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 12:16pm »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 10:47am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
the pictures he did supply do match up to the Big Basin drone.


The diagram in Isaac's docs and the one on the side of the BB craft are very different, I think, ATO. They have some similarity in some components, but are completely different 'pictures' (or schematics or instructions or whatever they may be).

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Please note that I chopped the Primer image and rotated areas liberally. From what I understand it's supposed to be taken as a whole or not at all. The other panel visible on the BB craft was even further from the primer layout, so I didn't spend much time trying to match it.

He's also assuming that this is a schematic on how to construct the thing. Why have a schematic on how to construct a drone on the inside panel of a wholly different craft? I'm not saying it *isn't* a schematic, we really have no way of knowing what purposes this diagram would serve without more info from Isaac (or someone similar). This guy is basing his whole story on the diagram being a 'how to build a drone' blueprint.

I also have some issues with him coming up with an arbitrary list of the components that comprise the drones. We have absolutely no way of even guessing what technologies are involved (other than the obvious anti-grav and 'cloaking' tech) nor do we have the slightest clue what the drones actually *do* (if anything). They could be simple technology test drones that do nothing but fly around. Speculating on mind-reading capabilities is just plain absurd at this point, imo. I mean, it's natural (and fun) to speculate about what they're for, but we can't take that speculation and start saying 'this piece then, must perform this function, and here it is in the diagram'.

I think he's just haphazardly jumping from one conclusion to the next to the next to come up with something built on a vacuous foundation. He's a sensationalist and is taking advantage of our desire to understand what is going on with these things.

I'm absolutely not trying to poo-poo speculation and blue-sky thinking, but this guy is coming forward with some speculated claims as fact. This is one of those times where we have to be our own best skeptic and compare extraordinary claims with what we're accepting as reliable information.
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« Reply #432 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 12:26pm »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 12:16pm, Fencesitter wrote:
The diagram in Isaac's docs and the one on the side of the BB craft are very different, I think, ATO. They have some similarity in some components, but are completely different 'pictures' (or schematics or instructions or whatever they may be).


Isaac didn't say they were identical and neither did I. My point is that on the Big Basin drone, there are parts that are not on the tarmac in Isaac's drone. Those parts could have been like the ones on the Big Basin drone.

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More importantly though, I'm very familiar with the “language” on their undersides seen clearly in photos by Chad and Rajman, and in another form in the Big Basin photos. One question I can answer for sure is why they're suddenly here. These crafts have probably existed in their current form for decades, and I can say for sure that the technology behind them has existed for decades before that. The “language”, in fact, (I'll explain shortly why I keep putting that in quotes) was the subject of my work in years past. I'll cover that as well.


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I'm absolutely not trying to poo-poo speculation and blue-sky thinking, but this guy is coming forward with some speculated claims as fact. This is one of those times where we have to be our own best skeptic and compare extraordinary claims with what we're accepting as reliable information.


What I see is conviction in what it was he did at PACL.
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« Reply #433 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 12:41pm »


May I ask a stupid question re :: man-machine interface ... ?

These diagrams appear to be some sort of "command and control" mechanisms, right, DIALS and/or LEVERS? Or, INDICATORS (to be viewed)?

Where does somebody STAND or SIT, to operate these things or view them or set them?

I'm not aware of any machine, human-built, that puts controls and levers on the outside of a vehicle. Usually, they're in proximity to the "driver," inside.

This just seems awfully strange. Levers hanging out in space.

Am I missing something?

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« Reply #434 on: Jul 29th, 2007, 12:45pm »

on Jul 29th, 2007, 12:26pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
What I see is conviction in what it was he did at PACL.


Oh, gosh ATO - I didn't mean Isaac is off his rocker - quite the opposite. I think he's presented the most convincing pieces of evidence for contact between extraterrestrials and humans we've seen to date.

I was talking about the guy quoted from Whitey's forum (a few pages back) that said he understood 90% of the diagram and would be providing a translation for us soon. It's him that I think is a few beers short of a party.
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