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« Reply #480 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 12:29pm »

All of this seems pretty amazing to me, and I've remained silent ever since this everything started. But I just want to put out what I've noticed in these photos.

Keep in mind that I want to believe these are real and I'm not trying to say that these images are fake and I'm not trying to say this is all a big hoax.

However...

I find it interesting that in most of the drone photos, the sky is white. I've read all about the smog issue that's been discussed and that makes sense. But I also find it interesting that in the same photos where the sky is white and there are trees, if you look behind the trees, the sky is blue. It doesn't make sense to me that the whole sky is white except for behind the trees.

Look at the photos from the Big Bason drone and tell me what you think
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1270&category=Environment

Now some of the photos don't have the white sky and those are the photos that have me drawn into this whole thing.

But this is just something I've noticed and thought I'd like to share.
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« Reply #481 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 12:39pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 12:29pm, qweedleguy wrote:
It doesn't make sense to me that the whole sky is white except for behind the trees.
Look at the photos from the Big Bason drone and tell me what you think
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1270&category=Environment


The blue you see is not the sky, it's coming off of the leaves and branches. That was explained as well.

There was much more indepth coverage on the white sky then just the smog.
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« Reply #482 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 1:22pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 12:18pm, urantia606 wrote:
Well yes. She describes the craft (and others) as being very old technology from their standpoint.

Also, her descritpion is rather brief, as this in only one of four types of craft they were using at that time (1954).

Also she states that their race has more interest in this planet than any other race of space aliens. It appears that their way station is on the back side of the moon and that it is their policy to give a few technical things and hints to earth people as they have to other inhabited planets if they think they are ready for it.

She also states that they have been watching things on earth for over two thousand years. But they have intensified their interest since we exploded nuclear devices in 1945. This appears to have changed the entire equation big time.


Well, Urantia606, you brought up a question, which to me seems very interesting, if one think a little further...

Maybe the info from the book you're refering to, are not the only sightings that were made, maybe these "Flying Laboratories" has been around even when Dinosaurs ruled the world? Who can say? Writings on the wall made by early man might (just might) show evidence, that they even were present at that time. Only showing themselves by accident or deliberate (no Powerlines around to trigger it at that time) grin

The great Pyramids, and maybe even the Chichén Itzá

http://www.internet-at-work.com/hos_mcgrane/chichen/chichen_index.html

has been undergoing the "Drone"'s (Gray's) investigation?

Taken the short time we as human beings are here on this Green Earth, at a maximum of a hundred years, each individual, and history only going back two thousand years, at most, comments of the sightings will be few.

Maybe they are related to the Old Gods of the Roman Empire....and even the Nordic Folklore? Raises some questions....

No, everything is possible, keep pounding the door, untill it opens, revealing the truth!

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« Reply #483 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 1:27pm »

Sky will always look more blue towards the horizon away from the sun. Why is the sky blue --
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/blusky.html

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« Reply #484 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 1:44pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 06:56am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
With a little searching on the Internet I found the following in the quote below. A Spacewoman speaks is not available online.

Also, before you read the quote, make note that...A Spacewoman Speaks, was written by an N3F president (under the pseudonym of Rolf Telano/real name Ralph Merridette Holland, described on the Internet as a paranormal enthusiast). So much for anonymity.

N3F is described here below. If he was the president of N3F, then A Spacewoman is most likely Fan Fiction and not that of someone's true experience. Holland's sister, Dora Holland is the woman mentioned in the quote below.
http://www.n3f.org/N3Fabout.shtml


The following was a Google search for (Vänner i universum)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=V%C3%A4nner+i+universum&btnG=Google+Search

Here is a Swedish translation page if you want a website translated but if someone wants to look long enough, we might find the book on the Internet.

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=English&to=Swedish
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So the "hot" alien woman story was fiction written by a man named Ralph? lol
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« Reply #485 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:10pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 1:44pm, castles4me wrote:
So the "hot" alien woman story was fiction written by a man named Ralph? lol


from N3F website:

Ralph Merridette Holland was born in Youngstown on August 29, 1899, and lived there until his family moved to Akron in 1914. He received an engineering degree, worked “in the plant” at the Akron Beacon Journal, and later worked for B. G. Goodrich. He spent the last 40 years of his life in Cuyahoga Falls, and had been employed by Vaughn Machnery Company there. He published his own fanzine, The Science-Fiction Review, and had written a book featuring a fantasy character called Ghu. He adopted the alter ego of Rolf Telano because he was interested in paranormal phenomenon and knew his interest in SF would cast doubt on anything he presented as fact in the paranormal field. As Rolf Telano he wrote A Spacewoman Speak. At one time Holland was president of N3F.(from 1958-1962)

from postcardfrommagonia.blogspot.com:

Holland was such an enthusiast for science fiction that he became a member of the National Fantasy Fan Federation (N3F), finally becoming its president, a post he held until his death. In 1935 he published several issues of his fanzine, The Science-Fiction Review, and in 1958 he was the co-editor of the first issue of Fantasy Aspects, another science fiction fanzine. He published a small book called Ghu’s Lexicon in the 1950s (“Ghu” being a fantasy character invented in the 1930s). Also, of course, he published A Voice From the Gallery, described by his sister as a series of booklets full of “many unusual or out of the way stories or events.”

Dora Holland tells in her obituary that her brother was “constantly…in search for the truth, sorting fact from fake, before he would pass the information on.” However, it is clear that she was either quite credulous in this respect or not telling the whole truth, for she knew that Ralph Holland had also published some very fishy ‘factual’ material under the pseudonym of Rolf Telano.


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« Reply #486 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:11pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 1:44pm, castles4me wrote:
So the "hot" alien woman story was fiction written by a man named Ralph? lol


Yes, written by a writer named Ralph Holland who was the president of N3F. Scroll down for his name.
http://www.n3f.org/N3Fhistory.shtml

Shy of going in there it says.........
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At least one publication, A Spacewoman Speaks, was written by an N3F president (under the pseudonym of Rolf Telano/real name Ralph Merridette Holland, described on the Internet as a paranormal enthusiast). Understanding Publishing was publisher of A Spacewoman Speaks in 1960.

It says that he was president here: 1958-1962: Ralph M. Holland

A little bit about National Fantasy Fan Federation
http://www.n3f.org/N3Fabout.shtml
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« Reply #487 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:22pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 12:29pm, qweedleguy wrote:
However...

I find it interesting that in most of the drone photos, the sky is white. I've read all about the smog issue that's been discussed and that makes sense. But I also find it interesting that in the same photos where the sky is white and there are trees, if you look behind the trees, the sky is blue. It doesn't make sense to me that the whole sky is white except for behind the trees.

Look at the photos from the Big Bason drone and tell me what you think

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1270&category=Environment

Now some of the photos don't have the white sky and those are the photos that have me drawn into this whole thing.

But this is just something I've noticed and thought I'd like to share.


I've noticed this also :: white sky when the drones materialize.

I guessed it was HAARP that had caused the failure of their cloaking devices, just as radar was the reason for the 1947 Roswell and subsequent crashes.

Further, ALL chemtrails in the Northern California have been discontinued, since these photos came to light. Hmm. Coincidence?

Secondly, here's a nice summary of what we know so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xXdIJmjQFE&mode=related&search=
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« Reply #488 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:25pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 2:22pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
Secondly, here's a nice summary of what we know so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xXdIJmjQFE&mode=related&search=


That's our forum member CentralScrutinizer. He'll appreciate that. Does someone have his address that has all of his youtubes (and other) on it? He does some great work.
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« Reply #489 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:33pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 11:27am, MarkM wrote:
It seems to be just the promo, unless I'm doing something wrong. Any suggestions?


D'oh, I jumped the gun here. Place holder was posted embarassed My bad
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« Reply #490 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:49pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 2:25pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
That's our forum member CentralScrutinizer. He'll appreciate that. Does someone have his address that has all of his youtubes (and other) on it? He does some great work.


Much better, Central Scrutinizer. This is a good one. I have favorited it.

BTW, you can see all his youtubes here http://www.youtube.com/user/TheScrutinizerReport
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« Reply #491 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 2:56pm »

The guys got a great voice, too! Nice overview, very well done. Boy, we're one talented bunch smiley!
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« Reply #492 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:11pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 2:57pm, urantia606 wrote:
Mr. Holland's sister writes:
"However, it is clear that she was either quite credulous in this respect or not telling the whole truth, for she knew that Ralph Holland had also published some very fishy ?factual? material under the pseudonym of Rolf Telano."Seems like his family did not support him. So much more loyalty. Sibling rivalry.....very common in these matters, especially in 1954.


Where did you find that? I found her comments to be somewhat different then yours. The following was found here.
http://postcardfrommagonia.blogspot.com/2005/08/note-versions-of-following-article.html
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It happened that Miss Edith Nicolaisen, owner of the Parthenon publishing company in Helsingborg, Sweden, specialists in contactee literature, read A Spacewoman Speaks, a UFO book written by one “Rolf Telano,” and decided she wanted to publish it in Swedish. She wrote a letter to Telano on March 1st 1962 care of Harriet P. Foster in Del Mar, California, whose address had been provided by its English language publisher, “Understanding Publishing Co.” A reply from Dora Holland was received at the beginning of June. In the letter Dora said that it was okay to publish the book as long as her deceased brother’s desire for anonymity was respected by the publisher. Nicolaisen agreed, and before the year was through Vänner i universum (“Friends in the Universe”) was printed and sold in Sweden. The book became a success, at least in the world of UFO literature.

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« Reply #493 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:44pm »

I saw Central Sctrunizer's youtube video... it was good! Here is also another one by icer1313 ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_W-tPmk19g&mode=related&search=


and one by bry3500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evlq8aCdfSA&mode=related&search=


and check out this one of "another strangecraft over Chatsworth" it looks almost dronish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdIFD7QGrk&mode=related&search=
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« Reply #494 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:56pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 2:22pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
I've noticed this also :: white sky when the drones materialize.

I guessed it was HAARP that had caused the failure of their cloaking devices, just as radar was the reason for the 1947 Roswell and subsequent crashes.

Further, ALL chemtrails in the Northern California have been discontinued, since these photos came to light. Hmm. Coincidence?


Shech -- I really think you are on to something with the HAARP chemtrails etc. I was trying to read some sites about it the other day. Do you have any sites you could point us to that would be an official explanation of what the government is doing with HAARP??
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