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« Reply #555 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:19am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 04:01am, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
d they have to treat their water in such a way, that it literally smells (very strongly) like rotten eggs.... !


Well, as they say of their water in Springfield, home of The Simpsons:
If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back!

I think those are words we can all agree on! tongue
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« Reply #556 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:25am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 09:47am, castles4me wrote:
I guess though, having a dragon-fly drone could be possible, even with bio-wings. ET or otherwise engineered.


I am certain I read somewhere that the military has developed a drone which flies like a bird or a fly or something like that. Some of you younger folks, probably remember that better than me, but it was recently.
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« Reply #557 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:27am »

I did see that someplace recently. It's about the size of a fly!
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« Reply #558 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:59am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:25am, starsigndavid wrote:
I am certain I read somewhere that the military has developed a drone which flies like a bird or a fly or something like that. Some of you younger folks, probably remember that better than me, but it was recently.


I had posted the link just this morning a few posts back #552 smiley
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« Reply #559 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:15am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:59am, castles4me wrote:
I had posted the link just this morning a few posts back #552 smiley

Ah, then that is where I saw it. I thought maybe that could tie in with the new pic, but that thing looks like a fly with a SERIOUS glandular problem!
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« Reply #560 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:41am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:25am, starsigndavid wrote:
I am certain I read somewhere that the military has developed a drone which flies like a bird or a fly or something like that. Some of you younger folks, probably remember that better than me, but it was recently.


Do you mean the Bird Plane?

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(NASA is looking into a small unmanned aircraft that flaps its wings for propulsion. Based on newer flexible solar panels and flexible batteries, this is more feasible.)

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EDIT: Never mind, just seen your post above this one, "Ah, then that is where I saw it. I thought maybe that could tie in with the new pic, but that thing looks like a fly with a SERIOUS glandular problem! "
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« Reply #561 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:49am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:41am, DrDil wrote:
Do you mean the Bird Plane?

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EDIT: Never mind, just seen your post above this one, "Ah, then that is where I saw it. I thought maybe that could tie in with the new pic, but that thing looks like a fly with a SERIOUS glandular problem! "



Yes, thank you Dr. I knew I had seen something on BOTH: a fly and bird wing vehicles. You both covered my a** on that one! smiley
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« Reply #562 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:11pm »

on Aug 1st, 2007, 9:05pm, LEVIATHAN66 wrote:
Urantia606, I'll take it. BTW, I am absolutely loathed at OMF. There they resent that I use the word group. What else should I use for more that one and less than 15. I actually think that in your post are things my "group" (sorry) would agree upon without question.


I guess you haven't met DarkDragon then. We happen to enjoy OMF so I'm cancelling out your vote. Your problem is with some of the members of OMF, not OMF.
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« Reply #563 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:33pm »

How about a little humor!!! grin grin grin

This is a call to C2C. Sorry but this is from the odd side of Ufology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-3u6HJ_xo
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« Reply #564 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:42pm »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:33pm, Latitude wrote:
How about a little humor!!! grin grin grin

This is a call to C2C. Sorry but this is from the odd side of Ufology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-3u6HJ_xo


Let me see... always giving him static... and always wants the phone... hmmmm, sounds like he's married. grin
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« Reply #565 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:46pm »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 05:39am, drewlac wrote:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2142.html?theme=light

I noticed this "Surveillance Dragonfly" story posted on C2C this morning while reading the recap from last night show with Shermer & Friedman (dubbed round 2 after Larry King Live show grin). IMO, it doesn't resemble the "drones"


Did Stanton hit him in the face with a bat this time ?
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« Reply #566 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:53pm »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:33pm, Latitude wrote:
How about a little humor!!! grin grin grin

This is a call to C2C. Sorry but this is from the odd side of Ufology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-3u6HJ_xo


Was it a setup Latitude?
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« Reply #567 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 7:37pm »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:46pm, LangLee wrote:
Did Stanton hit him in the face with a bat this time ?


They had a web poll at the end of the show regarding who stated their case the best. Stanton won by a landslide, 'bout 80% if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #568 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 7:43pm »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 7:37pm, drewlac wrote:
They had a web poll at the end of the show regarding who stated their case the best. Stanton won by a landslide, 'bout 80% if I remember correctly.


That's to be expected. Consider the audience. What I thought was odd about the show was I could tell that C2C has an audio engineer who was dialing the two speakers up and down. It seemed to me that Schermer was being favored by the engineer.
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« Reply #569 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 07:13am »

I would appreciate some help with a little project I'm working on with another forum where we discuss all things Canon DSLR. I posted some info on this case in there looking for comments and the thread has become very busy.

I am very interested in photography and have a Digital Rebel XTi not dissimilar to Rebel XT that Jenna/Stephen captured the Big Basin images with.

I have mentioned EXIF data before but it seems there are people who can look at the detailed camera settings and establish if an images stacks up ...here is a sample from a forum member below.

So my question is, does someone know where we can get an original JPEG image right from Jenna/Stephen's Canon Rebel XT instead of the resized EXIF stripped versions.

If this has been thrashed out, my apologies.

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http://www.ufocasebook.com/bigbasin.html

Actually at the bottom of the page it says "Click on images for originals full size", and this does work.

If the filenames of the images indicate the order in which they were taken, then the image which is posted first on that page is actually #3 in the sequence, followed by #1 and #2. (And that's consistent with the story.)

The image at the top of the page appears to be a 100% crop from #1.

#1 is 628KB. #2 is only 314KB. #3 is 570KB. These are too small to be originals, despite what it says on the page.

And there is still no EXIF data, which again says that these are actually not the originals. That's a real shame because it would allow us to look at exposure mode, shutter speed, aperture, focal length, white balance setting, and so on. There are aspects of the pictures that raise questions (such as why is #3 focussed on the grass but #1 and #2 are focussed on the "object"?) and which could be tested against the EXIF data.

If they are faked, they are at least moderately skillful. (Though as one of BB posts showed, fakes can be very skillful indeed.) Here is a 100% crop from #2. You can see that the "object" and the trees appear to have comparable chromatic aberration and comparable motion blur (which appears to be caused by a too-slow shutter speed). Again, the lack of EXIF data is really disappointing because it would allow a more riogorous test. (What lens was used and are its CA characteristics consistent with what we see? What shutter speed was used and is that consistent with the motion blur? etc.)

If the story is true, then the photographer is a photography student, and he first showed the images to someone who is a professional photographer. Obviously they would (should!) know what EXIF data is, and you'd have thought that one of them would have thought of preserving it.
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