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« Reply #660 on: Aug 7th, 2007, 10:09pm »

After trying to catch the 100 pages i didn't read up (that was hard) and after seeing the cgi, i am still not covinced around this drone... i also read "isaacs" mails but i'm still on the doubting/waiting side.

Theres still many things that seem to strange around all this for me at least.
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« Reply #661 on: Aug 7th, 2007, 10:30pm »

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Theres still many things that seem to strange around all this for me at least. [/quote]AND WHAT IS IT? wink
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« Reply #662 on: Aug 7th, 2007, 11:08pm »

on Aug 7th, 2007, 10:09pm, Kemuri wrote:
After trying to catch the 100 pages i didn't read up (that was hard) and after seeing the cgi, i am still not covinced around this drone... i also read "isaacs" mails but i'm still on the doubting/waiting side.

Theres still many things that seem to strange around all this for me at least.


Hey Kemuri:

Strange? What's so strange about a 350 foot long Drone that was made on some alien planet 70 million light years from earth flying around and scaring the bejesus out of people for the last 50 or 100, 000 years?

What's so strange about that?

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« Reply #663 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 12:19am »

on Aug 7th, 2007, 10:09pm, Kemuri wrote:
After trying to catch the 100 pages i didn't read up (that was hard) and after seeing the cgi, i am still not covinced around this drone... i also read "isaacs" mails but i'm still on the doubting/waiting side.

Theres still many things that seem to strange around all this for me at least.


I simply don't even put the CGI's in the same class as the Capitola and Big Basin pics, the CGI's aren't even close.
It's laughable that anyone would be fooled by the CGI, there aren't subtile omissions, there are blatant omissions. Like he had a picture of someone's face, he copied the outline of it and left out the facial features.
If that's all he's got it only proves that Capitola and BB aren't CGI..............and if they are that dude used a Rendering Farm and some really serious software .
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« Reply #664 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 01:30am »


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It's laughable that anyone would be fooled by the CGI


This is the kind of debunking statement, with ridicule added, that makes me wonder about someone's ability to SUSPEND JUDGMENT.

It's so easy to yell Hoax! Hoax!

When the fact is, our Coverment has been lying to us and covering up ET relations for sixty years.

Those drones could be ET; they could be back-engineered; they could be Hollywood mock-ups.

But our having this opinion or that opinion is not going to get any of us any closer to the actual Truth.

We have to simply WAIT FOR MORE INFO.

But what I have to say about them is, I don't like the LOOKS of them. They don't look Object-Friendly to me. I don't see anybody standing on the ground with Agreement or Contract in hand, to make sure that anybody who is touched by this drone has already given permission.

Those are not "forgiving" machines, whatever they do.


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« Reply #665 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 07:34am »

on Aug 8th, 2007, 01:30am, Shechaiyah wrote:
This is the kind of debunking statement, with ridicule added, that makes me wonder about someone's ability to SUSPEND JUDGMENT.

It's so easy to yell Hoax! Hoax!

When the fact is, our Coverment has been lying to us and covering up ET relations for sixty years.

Those drones could be ET; they could be back-engineered; they could be Hollywood mock-ups.

But our having this opinion or that opinion is not going to get any of us any closer to the actual Truth.

We have to simply WAIT FOR MORE INFO.

But what I have to say about them is, I don't like the LOOKS of them. They don't look Object-Friendly to me. I don't see anybody standing on the ground with Agreement or Contract in hand, to make sure that anybody who is touched by this drone has already given permission.

Those are not "forgiving" machines, whatever they do.


She-Chai


What are you talking about "debunking", that's the last thing I am.
After the things I've witnessed, gimme a break.

You should've put the rest of my statement up, you left it incomplete. Let me put it another way......the CGI's are dismal recreations of what I believe to be real objects. How someone could be fooled by them is beyond me, they are missing so many details.
Still don't know where you came up with that nonsense.
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« Reply #666 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 12:09pm »


Please put your ego back in your pocket.

I don't come here to argue.

I grab a thought and run with it. It's not personal.

All I asked was :: Can we RESERVE JUDGMENT? and not try to jump to conclusions?

That is an inner-directed question, and it was not about you.

Okay? I want to be friendly and deal with issues and not personalities. Can we agree to this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0CiLbUvi0

Here. Feel better. Music helps "reset" thoughts back to "BENIGN."

: ) She-Chai
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« Reply #667 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 1:02pm »

on Aug 8th, 2007, 12:19am, LangLee wrote:
I simply don't even put the CGI's in the same class as the Capitola and Big Basin pics, the CGI's aren't even close.


I think you're right too. Since the very first drone I have looked at CGI until I'm purple and I have not found one single website that has any CGI the quality of the Big Basin drone.

I have looked at all of the professional CGI sites mainly and there's nothing that compares to the detail.
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« Reply #668 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 2:13pm »

I have constructed 9 different Drones in Cinema 4D. I have yet to reach the detail of the BB Drone. Now believe it or not I know what I am doing and it is very, very difficult to even come close to the work done on these drones. Nor has anyone else. The detail work on the BB drone is astounding. IMO it is not a bump map, it is not a texture map, it is not a displacement map. If it is CG it has to be a very, very high mesh model. So what is it? I DO NOT KNOW, but it is a hell of a good job whatever it is.
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« Reply #669 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 3:29pm »

on Aug 8th, 2007, 12:19am, LangLee wrote:
I simply don't even put the CGI's in the same class as the Capitola and Big Basin pics, the CGI's aren't even close.
It's laughable that anyone would be fooled by the CGI, there aren't subtile omissions, there are blatant omissions. Like he had a picture of someone's face, he copied the outline of it and left out the facial features.
If that's all he's got it only proves that Capitola and BB aren't CGI..............and if they are that dude used a Rendering Farm and some really serious software .


As far as i know no media have even touched this eventhough there is alot more photo's etc than many other cases.
Still the incident at O'hara gained alot more media coverage, maybe because of all the witnesses i don't know. but i do know that after all these pictures there is still no sign of movement in the media around this.

Further more i am allowed to have my oppinion wich i won't change that easily smiley
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« Reply #670 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 5:53pm »

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Looks like there could be more diagrams on the backside of the panels?

If someone needs a free image enlargement (upscale) plug-in for photoshop, you can download it here:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workflow/wf_60/essay.html
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« Reply #671 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 6:25pm »

No they haven't, because they don't want the truth..... maybe. Reporters do not call the shots, the owners do, and you can believe that none of them got there totally legally.
What if one of the big papers wanted to run the story, this one has it all, but they choose to spend the space on lights and blurry things........if the powers that block us made a call to the owner and mentioned the SEC....dead story. The rich and powerful don't get that way being honest, you can bet your sweet... on that, so that leaves them vulnerable where revealing the truth is concerned in this area.
A reporter once asked to interview me about an incident in my town, I said as long as you print what I say, not what you think I said, use MY words, do not add your's. She said she couldn't, that she would write her interpretation of my story, I stated that it isn't the truth you're seeking, you're looking to put your slant on a story.....I sent her on her way.
The only way this story can be told to the press and to the public is to take out a full page ad in the NY times, LA Times, ect. displaying the photos, the story behind them, and ISAAC's information. no saladbowl / dressing/ cruthers, whatever CGI's, no Shermers, no noodle spined Larry King, simply the information as recieved.
We also need to communicate with LMH. I want to know the EXACT location the Rajman pics where taken. He started on a hill in a residential area, as he tries to keep up, he captures the corner of someones roof in the shot, what street is this on? He then gets to an area that is above / level with the top of the pole the craft goes over, he shoots from a distance. He then makes it to an area next the pole shoots the craft from under, what street is this on ? My sister would drive there from her home and take a look for me if I had an address. Since we can't get proof of the craft's existance no matter what we believe, we should try to get the exact location that all of the pics were taken.......
for if the locations do not exist, neither can the craft's at those location at those times.
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« Reply #672 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 6:30pm »

Maybe a NEW DRONE sighting?

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I took this photo today. This looks alot like the drone craft that was posted on here a while ago.


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Wow fred this is where you live? have you seen these before? ive been folowing these drones well their story on various forums and people are in two minds about them, but if have them comming to your neibourhood you could hold the key to all the speculation over the californian sightings and prove they are real. you need to report this to MUFON.


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Yes this is a first for me if it is like the one from the Big Basin...I can't tell. I didn't even see it because I was just taking pictures of the field below it. By the time I reviewed the pictures it had already been a minute or two so it was gone. This is behind Wal - Mart in Pearisburg, VA. I usually take pictures in the other direction (South). I hope this is what I think it is.


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« Reply #673 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 7:39pm »

Someone should get in touch with this guy and tell him not to send it to MUFON!
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« Reply #674 on: Aug 8th, 2007, 7:42pm »

on Aug 8th, 2007, 6:25pm, LangLee wrote:
Since we can't get proof of the craft's existance no matter what we believe, we should try to get the exact location that all of the pics were taken.......
for if the locations do not exist, neither can the craft's at those location at those times.

But can you 100% sure say those photo's are genuine? because i for one still want to keep an open but still sceptic mind around it.

I know from a couple of my friends that works as 3d artists that it's very possible to make 3d animations in style with the Big Basin drone with todays prgrams availible for them, ofcourse it will take them a bit of time to do but it is still possible wich is my point.

I admit i was amazed at the first photo's of the craft but the amazement went off when i saw the Big Basin one
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