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« Reply #960 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 09:47am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 09:43am, ufaux wrote:
Really? it will be a pleasure to speak with him then.


Here's one I just found on OMF. I have seen more. It will take a while.

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Smokey,

The writing on the craft(s) is not Japanese. I have studied Japanese, and I repeat, the writing on the craft is not Japanese.

What may give it its Japanese "feel" is that a few of the characters look like katakana characters.

In Japanese, there are three character sets, two of which are phonetic (hiragana and katakana) and the third has pictographic origins, kanji (which is also the Chinese character set). Katakana is the character set used for non-Japanese words that have been adopted into the language.

If you want me to give you examples of which characters match, I can certainly do that.

Though, I do recall much earlier in this stream of conversation that someone identified a set of ancient characters that seemed to make a positive match. Must go back to find that post.

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« Reply #961 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 09:53am »

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So it's impossible to translate Katakana langage?? Even if its syllabic script, its obviously make sense somewhere....

hahaha
syllabic script means that one symbol correspond to one sound. For exemple :
ワ is pronounce "WA"
it has no meaning, like if you where using the letter "Y" for exemple. Of cause, some japanese words are composed only with one syllab (for exemple, "KI" means "tree").
there is tow type of writing in japanese. You got the "KANJI", wich is some Chinese Han period characters (exemples : 宇、宙、人 and so on); then you've got the KANA, wich is typical japanese characters. Each kana correspond to a japanese syllab. There is HIRA-GANA and KATA-KANA.
When you write a japanese characters, what you have to think about is the number of stroke, and the order that you write it. So, one KANA can be write very differenly from a person to another.
You can get more information on Wikipedia :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language

If you need more proof, leave a message on a japanese speaker forum. There is a lot of them in english.

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« Reply #962 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 09:59am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 09:33am, urantia606 wrote:
I have studied the Japanese language. It is completely different from Western languages. The sounds, the words and especially the so-called alphbet are completely SYNTHETIC. Ufaux, do you understand what that word means?

It does not surprise me that an alien culture would use such symbols and that SOME of them would look like the Katanka symbols. Especially since they are used in CONTEXT as Isaac has stated.

Actually the Japanese language is much easier to learn than any Western language because of it's inherent simplicity.

Again it seems fitting that an alien race would utilize a similar system of symbols.


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Thanks for finding those old posts. This helps to clear up this matter of alien language.
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« Reply #963 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:00am »

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Dude and his other brother Dude. It looks to me like bad acting. Sorry. Why did he walk out to the sighting spot? Why no first names only dude and dude? How is it he saw the object before it appeared on the video? Why did he never zoom in? What really is behind the trailer? Somebody flying a kite? Two guys by themselves on a camping trip? Not likely. More likely the other people are behind the trailer moving the "ufo".


Oh well..maybe it is fake.

But having been on camping trips like that (many years past). Where each day was viewed through an alcoholic haze, I can kind of empathize with these guys. The intellect slows a little bit each day as blood alcohol increases. Intelligent speech becomes an effort and eventually…communication in complete sentences begin to fail.

Where are the rest of the campers? Probably passed out in the camper. If there were any others. But what is wrong with 2 men on a camping / fishing trip? I used load up with my best friend back in my college days and we’d head to the coast or the mountains to fish, hike or hunt.

So..when something unusual happens? Don’t expect reactions to mimic how you ( or myself…now) would react if you were there. I can’t argue the technical deficiencies of the film itself with this crowd. But, both of these…”dudes” …were either drunk…or so hung over they might as well have been still drinking. I thought it was pretty funny.

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« Reply #964 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:00am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 09:53am, ufaux wrote:
hahaha


I am asking you nicely - for the second time - to knock it off with the derisive laughter. It is disrespectful to members and totally counterproductive to civil discussion.

If you cannot converse without finding member replies to be a joke then perhaps you might be more comfortable elsewhere.
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« Reply #965 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:03am »

Regarding the language similarities....

I love to study ancient civilizations and I am especially interested in biblical history. In my studies I read once that before the flood there was a very common language (given by God) that the people used.

When the flood came and there was only Noah and his three sons and their wives left, their descendants spread out to form the various countries of the world.

The family of Joktan, son of Shem went to the far east. And in the very beginning forms of Japanese and Chinese, there are symbols that even tell the creation story. So, it proved that those that formed the far east were descendants of those that knew the creation story. (you can read and see the chinese symbols about creation/bible stories here http://www.morgenster.org/signs.htm)

It wouldn't surprise me in the bit that the alien language looked like early Japanese or Chinese basic languages. Hebrew language was also a descended language from the offspring of Noah, and you can find similarities there to the alien language too.

If God can give one planet language, he can certainly give another planet the same language.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #966 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:10am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 07:34am, ufaux wrote:
here is a other colometric analyse I made :
http://bayimg.com/album/cAaiBaaaB

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We can clearly see the cloud over the object, wich means that the person who create this haox used photoshop layer property' to incrust the object into the original picture.

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Okay you CGI folks out there... any response to this?

I do not have the tools to do this, but I think I see a slight bleed through like it...
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« Reply #967 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:23am »

Here's another from a Japanese person:
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I completely disagree and I am japanese. At most I saw 3 characters that does in fact resemble some katakana, but thats it. Most of the other symbols are truly alien to me. Some of them look more like geometric shapes rather then letters. To say "a lot" is a gross exaggeration and that makes you a bad student. You haven't debunked anything in my eyes.
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« Reply #968 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:23am »

The "language" of the Isaac "Linguistic Primer" are assembler language in Unicode
(or similar, if Alien origin).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_Technical_%28Unicode%29#.282380-23BF.29

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In extended systems all symbols may be found, the interpretation to understandable variabels
can perhaps be deciffered if the whole sequence is finite.

As stated before, maschincode, just as "Isaac" describes it.

Some people tried to "translate" the symbols on the I - beam found at Rosswell. Problem: If
the language aren't a spoken language, translation will fail.

If one were to find expertise on this, Archeologists with speciality in "extinct" languages, and
Computer Programmers would be a good choise.

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« Reply #969 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:26am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:10am, Marvin wrote:
Okay you CGI folks out there... any response to this?

I do not have the tools to do this, but I think I see a slight bleed through like it...


I don't know how Ufaux came up with this. None of the utilities I use show this aberration. I have tried all and it's simply not there. My conclusion is it's his own concoction.
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« Reply #970 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:28am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 09:53am, ufaux wrote:
hahaha
syllabic script means that one symbol correspond to one sound. For exemple :
ƒ is pronounce "WA"
it has no meaning, like if you where using the letter "Y" for exemple. Of cause, some japanese words are composed only with one syllab (for exemple, "KI" means "tree").
there is tow type of writing in japanese. You got the "KANJI", wich is some Chinese Han period characters (exemples : ‰FA’ˆAl and so on); then you've got the KANA, wich is typical japanese characters. Each kana correspond to a japanese syllab. There is HIRA-GANA and KATA-KANA.
When you write a japanese characters, what you have to think about is the number of stroke, and the order that you write it. So, one KANA can be write very differenly from a person to another.
You can get more information on Wikipedia :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language

If you need more proof, leave a message on a japanese speaker forum. There is a lot of them in english.


Ok, thanks for the lesson, so please keep continue your analysis to prove the hoax. It can't be translate, OK, but is 5.8% direct match enough to prove the hoax?
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« Reply #971 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:30am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:00am, Raf wrote:
Latitude wrote:


Oh well..maybe it is fake.

But having been on camping trips like that (many years past). Where each day was viewed through an alcoholic haze, I can kind of empathize with these guys. The intellect slows a little bit each day as blood alcohol increases. Intelligent speech becomes an effort and eventually…communication in complete sentences begin to fail.

Where are the rest of the campers? Probably passed out in the camper. If there were any others. But what is wrong with 2 men on a camping / fishing trip? I used load up with my best friend back in my college days and we’d head to the coast or the mountains to fish, hike or hunt.

So..when something unusual happens? Don’t expect reactions to mimic how you ( or myself…now) would react if you were there. I can’t argue the technical deficiencies of the film itself with this crowd. But, both of these…”dudes” …were either drunk…or so hung over they might as well have been still drinking. I thought it was pretty funny.

Raf


Sorry Raf. I hear you and what you are saying sounds true. But go back and read StarsignDavid's reply. He summed it up the best.
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« Reply #972 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:32am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:26am, Latitude wrote:
I don't know how Ufaux came up with this. None of the utilities I use show this aberration. I have tried all and it's simply not there. My conclusion is it's his own concoction.


I also have tried all of my color separation tools and have come to the conclusion that the ufaux creations are phony.

In fact if you look closely they are a rather crude attempt. His so-called 'overlay' does not even match the clouds correctly.

Ufaux, please find some other forum.
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« Reply #973 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:32am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 02:38am, RoH wrote:
ATO, is this the picture Leviathan66 posted?
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Yes it is RoH but I like mine better.

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« Reply #974 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:34am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:30am, Latitude wrote:
Sorry Raf. I hear you and what you are saying sounds true. But go back and read StarsignDavid's reply. He summed it up the best.


Actually, I remember DrDil summing it up too in a PM of mine quite some time ago. I PMd him and told him to get his stitching be-hind in here. lol
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