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« Reply #975 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:44am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:34am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Actually, I remember DrDil summing it up too in a PM of mine quite some time ago. I PMd him and told him to get his stitching be-hind in here. lol


Has Dr Dil went over to the dark side? I see him over at OMF a lot lately with much hoax talk coming from him. He's a tough nut to crack too.
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« Reply #976 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:44am »

To answer your question, Ufaux, no, we aren't blind. And someone is playing games. Not appreciated.

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« Reply #977 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:49am »

ufaux gave me a headache! I don't know how he can INSIST he is right when the evidence is simply not there. He is forcing square pegs into round holes to make his point, and, I suspect, concocting a few things to help him fill in the gaps.
His very manner of presentation has my critical ear tuned out. No one on here is an idiot, to be treated so condescendingly.
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« Reply #978 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:56am »

Folks,

Ufaux can’t be convinced to look at this subject with an open mind. He never could. That is not why he came in here. He came to wag his pet theory in everyones face and laugh off everything else that has been posted. Its not about finding the truth or even discussing the possibilities..its about Ufaux.

I don’t know why you are wasting your time with this guy.

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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #979 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:03am »

Okay... Thanks guys (and gals) for the closer look at that photo.

Hoaxing is such a two way street, that is why I am so "cautious." Maybe folks will understand why I am. Require objective evidence, no matter if they are for or against the issue. Trust no one.
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« Reply #980 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:06am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:44am, MarkM wrote:
To answer your question, Ufaux, no, we aren't blind. And someone is playing games. Not appreciated.

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Did he concoct the cloud covering the arm?
Or, could it be true cloud layering in photoshop?
Can a CG pro try and recreate what he did to prove it wronghuh (I hope)
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« Reply #981 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:10am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:00am, Raf wrote:
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Oh well..maybe it is fake.

But having been on camping trips like that (many years past). Where each day was viewed through an alcoholic haze, I can kind of empathize with these guys. The intellect slows a little bit each day as blood alcohol increases. Intelligent speech becomes an effort and eventually…communication in complete sentences begin to fail.

Where are the rest of the campers? Probably passed out in the camper. If there were any others. But what is wrong with 2 men on a camping / fishing trip? I used load up with my best friend back in my college days and we’d head to the coast or the mountains to fish, hike or hunt.

So..when something unusual happens? Don’t expect reactions to mimic how you ( or myself…now) would react if you were there. I can’t argue the technical deficiencies of the film itself with this crowd. But, both of these…”dudes” …were either drunk…or so hung over they might as well have been still drinking. I thought it was pretty funny.

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That's true -- those guys could have been in a drunken stuper and been too "stupified" to even react in any other way other than "dude" lol Their reactions weren't that quick either.

It didn't seem like people were holding the UFO up from behind the camper -- it did seem to go behind the trees.
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« Reply #982 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:20am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 11:06am, castles4me wrote:
Did he concoct the cloud covering the arm?
Or, could it be true cloud layering in photoshop?
Can a CG pro try and recreate what he did to prove it wronghuh (I hope)

Ufaux is certainly going to say to us which filters he used so that we can reproduce the image by ourselves and confirm its statements.
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« Reply #983 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:28am »

I did a cloud render (which tries to find the clouds and accentuates them) and this is what I came up with. I see no smoking gun here.

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« Reply #984 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:29am »

A perfect example of making the case for a hoax the right way is the Haiti video.

At first glance it looked very convincing and we were eager to hope for the best. The craft photographed even had the "industrial" look of the drones. However, thanks to some fantastic detective work by DrDil and others, it was determined to be a hoax. The evidence for a hoax was presented intelligently and convincingly. The case was made without attitude. No one argued, everyone listened, weighed the facts and made their decisions.

What makes the drones so compelling is the volume of evidence. A lot of work has gone into studying them. The very fact that this investigation continues and that nothing conclusive (of the case in it's entirety) has been determined, leaves to door open. That's a very significant point. And yes, that door swings both ways!


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« Reply #985 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:37am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:44am, Latitude wrote:
Has Dr Dil went over to the dark side? I see him over at OMF a lot lately with much hoax talk coming from him. He's a tough nut to crack too.


He has a right though if that's his position. After all, he did conquer the Haiti/Dominican Republic hoax better then anyone else. If there is a hoax, we all want to know it. That's just the way it is. Besides, he is a skeptic with discovery, he's not a Ufaux in other words. lol

But Latittude, you got the nut part right. lol

ATO=3 DrDil=1. he, he - eek, eek
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« Reply #986 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:45am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 11:06am, castles4me wrote:
Did he concoct the cloud covering the arm?
Or, could it be true cloud layering in photoshop?
Can a CG pro try and recreate what he did to prove it wronghuh (I hope)


Absolutely. There are several ways that you could create the cloud over the craft images in a matter of minutes. Add a layer and adjust the transparency or use the clone tool on the cloud. Look at the hi res original - the cloud is messed with.
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« Reply #987 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:45am »

on Aug 16th, 2007, 07:34am, ufaux wrote:
here is a other colometric analyse I made :
http://bayimg.com/album/cAaiBaaaB
We can clearly see the cloud over the object, wich means that the person who create this haox used photoshop layer property' to incrust the object into the original picture.


As has already been asked of you many times, please explain the steps you used to reveal that hidden cloud.

I have tried to replicate your coloring using the color curve adjust tool, still no hidden clouds:


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« Reply #988 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 11:56am »

I have been researching more of my old books in the last two days and have found many references to strange craft in the sky that seem to sound like the Drones., ie., star-like, tails, spikes protruding, wings, bicycle wheel with hole in the center, spokes, attached circles, etc.

I first read these books over twenty to thirty years ago and the old sightings did not make sense to me at that time......they seem to make a LOT more sense to me now.

These sighting are from the 1800s and the early 1900s.

I will be posting them as soon as I can.

Urantia....Douglas
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« Reply #989 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 12:06pm »

This post is just for information purposes only. You are welcome to reject it or not.

When Goerge Adamski ( 1950's UFO contactee) was onboard the Mother Ship in the early 1950s, he observed several 'robot' craft that were stored inside the Mother Ship. He was advised by the space alien host, NOT to describe these craft when he talked about his visits. The space aliens were well aware that Mr. Adamski was a prolific writer.

They were happy for him to talk about his visits to their mother ship but they did not want him talking about these 'robot' craft that were used for observation of earth. He observed that they were of differrent sizes.

I think we now know why.
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