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« Reply #1035 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 6:17pm »

It is actually quite easy to picture how this "computational substance" works. Just imagine an artificial brain instead of a supercomputer... Kinda sorta

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« Reply #1036 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 6:20pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:08pm, hjdelight wrote:
You know....that's the one thing that I have trouble accepting i.e. a written language that is a catalyst to some undescribed physical process. It sounds like a fantasy and in fact, has been a mainstay for fantasy writers. As in the magical inscriptions on rings, staffs, armor etc. It's completely beyond our understanding of physics and physics is the underpinning of our reality. You could say well, that's nano technology or subatomic particle manipulations or whatever but whatever you say, it doesn't fit with our reality very well as Isaac has descibed it. Maybe I'm being too rigid though. New things are being developed all the time but, in keeping with that thought, we sure haven't gained much technologically by having an example of this magical alien language for who knows how many years if all we've done is make invisible floating robots. There I go, being rigid again. grin



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I have the opinion that some people have read too much into the Isaac description of the language and turned it into some kind of magic. To me it's similar to our own computer languages.

A programmer writes the code and it is loaded into memory. The processor executes that code and tells the hardware what to do.

The S1 (or whatever) reads the language and instructs the A1 (or whatever) and all other devices on what to do. Instead of using address and data buses, it uses a field (wireless communication). Maybe I am overly simplifying it.
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« Reply #1037 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 6:21pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 12:50pm, alien_contactee wrote:
I have this posted elsewhere too but y'all always seem to be in this thread so I thought I would post this here too.

UFO on the moon. During routine observations of the cosmos, Italian astronomers have recently spotted and tracked on video an Unidentified Flying Object or UFO.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2705745539059578202

This looks as if one UFO is checking out important areas in particular. Can any of you make out the names of those mares? I would love to be able to look them up on our other moon pictures.


My daughter just looked at this and she said, "mom if you look at it's path and flip it over, the UFO has traveled in a triangle. Amazing what kids find when they look.

HJ: Here is the alien autopsy model/sculptor creator who revealed himself a short while ago. Oops, nevermind - you were talking about a roswell film. Well, I'll leave this one here anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2006/04/07/070406_alien_interview_feature.shtml


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« Reply #1038 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 6:55pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:00pm, Latitude wrote:
I look at the LAP like this. I know many won't agree with me on this.

Isaac and his associates worked on it for years and I got the feeling from the Isaac website that they never could decipher it. They had some of the brightest minds in the country working on it. Many forum members continue to study it trying to learn it's secrets but I think they will never understand it. It's way too complex and I think it may be beyond human comprehension abilities. The forum people can't even come to a conclusion of what the LAP even pertains to. I my guess is that it deals with the workings of the BB drone. That's as far as I go.


I don’t think it’s as straight forward as somebody like myself disagreeing with you undecided, but rather dealing with just the facts as Isaac portrayed them, Isaac wrote:

“By 1984 these qualities along with my technical background made me a likely candidate for a new program they were recruiting for called CARET.”

From this statement we know that CARET was a new, “Establishment” in 1984.

Isaac also wrote, “I worked at PACL from 1984 to 1987, by which time I was utterly burned out.”

From this statement we can safely say Isaac worked at PACL for a maximum of 3 years or a minimum of 2 years and 1 month.

Isaac also states that:

“Of course they spent about 2 months briefing us all before we saw or did anything.”

So, again the timeframe is shortened, so when you say, “Isaac and his associates worked on it for years and I got the feeling from the Isaac website that they never could decipher it. They had some of the brightest minds in the country working on it.”

The, “Years” you are talking about could be as little as two (years) or a little over two and a half at best. His associates may still be working on it now but when Isaac left PACL then surely he was out of the (already highly constrained) information loop so his associates are of no consequence.

By this I mean when Isaac wrote his initial accompanying text he is talking from his standpoint, and when you also consider the fact that the, “Research report” is for the last quarter in 1986 then I feel the data we have been supplied doesn’t realistically suggest that Isaac, “Worked on this for years.” (Well, certainly no more than two years, as that is the timeframe his written text is a direct summarization of.)
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« Reply #1039 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 7:06pm »

I just found a symbol on the primer that looks like Japanese Katakana this does not mean some of the primer is from ancient Japanese but rather the primer may have had influence on the ancient Japanese.Take a look guys and see if you can spot it because after I saw it I got confused and can not find it now to show you. I think I am tired but I am on the edge of my chair to see what you all will find next. Quite honestly at the moment i cant find the primer again in the forum.

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« Reply #1040 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 7:12pm »

Thanks AC.

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« Reply #1041 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 7:38pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:08pm, hjdelight wrote:
You know....that's the one thing that I have trouble accepting i.e. a written language that is a catalyst to some undescribed physical process. It sounds like a fantasy and in fact, has been a mainstay for fantasy writers. As in the magical inscriptions on rings, staffs, armor etc. It's completely beyond our understanding of physics and physics is the underpinning of our reality. You could say well, that's nano technology or subatomic particle manipulations or whatever but whatever you say, it doesn't fit with our reality very well as Isaac has descibed it. Maybe I'm being too rigid though. New things are being developed all the time but, in keeping with that thought, we sure haven't gained much technologically by having an example of this magical alien language for who knows how many years if all we've done is make invisible floating robots. There I go, being rigid again. grin

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on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:17pm, ABCStore wrote:
It is actually quite easy to picture how this "computational substance" works. Just imagine an artificial brain instead of a supercomputer... Kinda sorta

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on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:20pm, Latitude wrote:
I have the opinion that some people have read too much into the Isaac description of the language and turned it into some kind of magic. To me it's similar to our own computer languages.

A programmer writes the code and it is loaded into memory. The processor executes that code and tells the hardware what to do.

The S1 (or whatever) reads the language and instructs the A1 (or whatever) and all other devices on what to do. Instead of using address and data buses, it uses a field (wireless communication). Maybe I am overly simplifying it.



You know, technology has come along way since “Isaac’s” PACL days. To imprint a nanotechnology onto another nanotechnology (in other words, the characters are the executable program that make the components work) would be like magic in the time frame Isaac was speaking of. That type of interface would be a bit complex (can one reprogram such a thing or does it become disposable like a “use once and throw away” item). Then again, I am embellishing Isaac’s story, filling in the blanks so that it makes sense to me… and it may have nothing to do with what Isaac was describing.

Latitude, you have to admit, Isaac said:

“But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it.”

As Isaac said, “It really did seem like magic to us.” But apparently, they had some understanding of this “magic.”
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« Reply #1042 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 7:52pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:08pm, hjdelight wrote:
magical alien language for who knows how many years if all we've done is make invisible floating robots. There I go, being rigid again. grin


I really feel that the linguistic primers are the major key player. They have to have a function greater than letters on a piece of material. I still feel that they are capable of reading the crafts surroundings as well as giving it direction through instruction once received by the substrate. The primers themselves I feel are doing this while using earth's magnetic field (and not discounting the sun's energy also) and then this information is going off to that hunk of rock (substrate), which is adjusting it or telling it what to do, not to mention recording. I really feel that the primers' functions are directly tied to the substrate.

Here's my analogy with a little bit of help from my not so friendly friends.

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Furthermore, we can be yaking about antigravity all day long but the fins or tails (whatever you wish to call them) are designed like solar panels so the drone could simply be run on solar energy fed through the fins and then stored. These are aliens ya know. Their solar technology could be phenomenally surpassed by now.

Here is a run of the mill photovoltaic solar satellite photo below. Certainly, there is a question about upward propulsion, but - they are aliens so who is to say that they haven't figured out how to do that with solar generated power by now.

Also, the coincidental nature of power lines, i.e., power poles running through all national forests, etc. and the Capitola and Birmingham telephone poles, there is a chance that they are working off of electromagnetic fields as well as earth's magnetic field for not necessarily power but instruction - again the ole bar code thing, the brain (substrate) being made able to decipher the linguistics with magnetics.

You do know that we run antennas through our solar panels on satellites. The primers could be the same thing but have more of a job description than one of our satellites' antennas certainly.

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And of course the common denominator with solar panels is just that panels - connected panels rather and not one piece. Well here's a good set of connected panels below.

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« Reply #1043 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:09pm »

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Latitude, you have to admit, Isaac said:

“But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it.”

As Isaac said, “It really did seem like magic to us.” But apparently, they had some understanding of this “magic.”


Yeah Lat...what Marvin said. Lol! grin
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« Reply #1044 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:13pm »

Imagine dropping a digital watch in Plato's lap 2400 years ago. Would it work like magic to him?
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« Reply #1045 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:39pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 5:24pm, Latitude wrote:
I have always wondered about the case of the "alien in the freezer". The guy who had the alien was some psychologist or something and when the debunkers supposedly discovered he worked at a quickie mart they destroyed him. Those alien pictures looked pretty good. They were often accused of being paper mache but I have seen many descriptions of aliens that match Reed's alien.

Fake or not, it was a cool story.


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« Reply #1046 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:41pm »

Ato writes:

HJ: Here is the alien autopsy model/sculptor creator who revealed himself a short while ago. Oops, nevermind - you were talking about a roswell film. Well, I'll leave this one here anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2006/04/07/070406_alien_interview_feature.shtml


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Yeah, I read that a long time ago. You do notice that he offers absolutely no proof of any kind to substantiate his claim.

You would think that he might have some material left over...some out-takes....some still photos....some old props. He has nothing....absolutely nothing.

His claim is as empty as last night's pizza box.

Just a lot of nonsense words.
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« Reply #1047 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:52pm »

on Sep 27th, 2007, 8:41pm, urantia606 wrote:
Ato writes:

HJ: Here is the alien autopsy model/sculptor creator who revealed himself a short while ago. Oops, nevermind - you were talking about a roswell film. Well, I'll leave this one here anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2006/04/07/070406_alien_interview_feature.shtml


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Yeah, I read that a long time ago. You do notice that he offers absolutely no proof of any kind to substantiate his claim.

You would think that he might have some material left over...some out-takes....some still photos....some old props. He has nothing....absolutely nothing.

His claim is as empty as last night's pizza box.

Just a lot of nonsense words.


Urantia, there is a website with tons of photos and all the people that worked the set and major explanations on how they performed everything using old equipment. I know I brought it in here. I don't know where it is though because I don't know where the alien autopsy stuff is anymore. There's lots of photos.
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« Reply #1048 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 8:58pm »

As I said the segments of the film that show the instrument panels and the curved pieces (Isaac) are real. In another bit of film released (not the aliens autopsied) is an alien on a stretcher, it is real too. I am not asking for belief, just offering a clue to the very few who can understand this and pursue it further. If there are none, so be it. Understand not everyone needs another persons validation to know that what they know is true. These statements are for those who don't reject them. Those who do reject, them go to it. The new part of the film is a total obvious fake.
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« Reply #1049 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 9:21pm »

hi Razor; did you find your friend,to see if he or she will look at the linguistics? it is magic and magic is real from what i have seen in life.this does not mean every day in life or a magic show. grin
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