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« Reply #1095 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 12:51pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 08:40am, Gort wrote:
Trying to understand. Your illustration is showing how a real object differs from a CGI rendition.

You are correct.

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You've chosen as an example of your real object one of the drone pictures. You are making the assumption that it is real to begin with.

This is not correct!
I've shown that the drone in the Rajman picture "PICT0016" is a real object in that picture.

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What if it too were a CGI rendition? An additional comparison would help.

I don't need to, I've already shown you the CGI from saladfingers.

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Say for an example use an Apple. Do the same comparison with a real Apple and a CGI rendered Apple.

The test will show that the real apple is the real one, and the CGI apple do not belong in the picture.

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Include the apple comparison. The apple comparison would then be the control.

You don't need a control image to compare with! The comparison I gave with saladfingers CGI, was to show people like you what I was talking about, but it looks like you missed the point.

Why don't you go and ask a photo expert about this Gort?

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« Reply #1096 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 12:58pm »

I guess I'll weigh in on the topic of drone maneuverability.

First I'd like to state that we are like an animal trying to make sense of an automobile when it comes to these drones. But... anything that uses "Rigid Spatial Relationships" would have no problem navigating in any way it wanted to. So forget the need for banking or tilting to move. It's simply not necessary and thinking that way only shows how terrestrial we think.

This reminds me of a topic long ago on OMF where some members pointed out that the BB drone could not be a real object because the connecting pieces are too small to keep it's structure in tact. That point was countered by a very astute member who speculated that some other technology could be in effect that removes the drone from our laws of nature. This was before Isaac and the concept of RSR was brought to light.

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Any banking or tilting of the drone is not for maneuvering but is most likely for a different purpose, IMO.
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« Reply #1097 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:07pm »

About the navigation system of the Drones, I can reveal a small slice of what I'm working on:

The diagrams of the BB drone (and the ligustic primers of Isaac, which probably was to find inside the main ring) might just be star maps written for this "excavating journey" they might be on, showing known star constellations as seen from the earth. Much like our GPS-system.

The fact, that there are more than one set of these diagrams suggests that they could be "investigating" more than one planet in the same mission.

As I'm still working on this, no clear facts can be presented at this time.

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« Reply #1098 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:13pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 08:27am, Gort wrote:
I read the information. The question that immediately comes to me, is if this is some kind of important message why would it be on a structural component. I would think an important message would be contained in something more portable rather than a structural component of the ship. It could be graffiti I suppose. I'm more likely to believe the markings were something like, Freedom Inc. or made in Freedom, assuming the message is Freedom?


It could also mean: "Pull this lever to activate high-frequency-sound-generator to free ship from gravity attraction."
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« Reply #1099 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:23pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 1:13pm, WT wrote:
It could also mean: "Pull this lever to activate high-frequency-sound-generator to free ship from gravity attraction."


yeah that article was a hoot -- lol @ Warrior Women
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« Reply #1100 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:25pm »

Roh's initial post of the turing machine was very interesting concerning the Linguistics Primers -- maybe you can post that again Roh.
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« Reply #1101 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:27pm »

on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:54am, RoH wrote:
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Hi RoH, what exactly (channels?) do you adjust (while using curves in Photoshop) to increase the visibility of the jpeg structure/pattern?
(And thanks for the informative post!! smiley)
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« Reply #1102 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:51pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 12:51pm, RoH wrote:

You are correct.


This is not correct!
I've shown that the drone in the Rajman picture "PICT0016" is a real object in that picture.


I don't need to, I've already shown you the CGI from saladfingers.


The test will show that the real apple is the real one, and the CGI apple do not belong in the picture.


You don't need a control image to compare with! The comparison I gave with saladfingers CGI, was to show people like you what I was talking about, but it looks like you missed the point.

Why don't you go and ask a photo expert about this Gort?



its method

but you would not understand
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« Reply #1103 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 1:53pm »

This illustrates a drone movement.

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« Reply #1104 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:06pm »

Then I stand to be corrected -- they do tilt lol
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« Reply #1105 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:20pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 1:53pm, Latitude wrote:
This illustrates a drone movement.

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Latitude, this one is a bit tricky.

When looking for vectors or directional movement, there appears to be a number of things happening (assuming they are in the correct order- I am not questioning you on this). If the first photo is on the left and the second it on the right, and 23 seconds have elapsedů it would seem the drone is more like hovering and rotating than making any drastic or describable movement, except to say that it get closer to the trees.

If you examine the other photos, at least my guess was that the paddle or wing is the port side and (on our left above) and the strange double configuration facing us is the aft section. That was the feeling I got from the other posted photos (if they are in order) as the drone passes over the telephone pole. What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1106 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:20pm »

All the original images, including the Birmingham image are either real or the best CG currently available. What is my proof? No one has been able to reproduce them with any believability so far and many have tried. The BB drone is very impressive and if it is CG it MUST have a huge polygon count mesh, bump maps or displacement maps, or texture maps will not produce this kind of detail. This model would take some time to produce and unless done for fun, it would cost some kind of money commercially. My guess is that the original drones have some basis in reality. What I do not know.
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« Reply #1107 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:26pm »

Latitude wrote:

This illustrates a drone movement.


Latitude, compare the leaves on top of the branches....

I think the camera was tilted. (Slightly to the left)

If the drone is moving along it's axes, a slight tilt of a handheld camera would make this illusion.

Again, I might be wrong, it's open to what one makes of it.

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« Reply #1108 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:31pm »

I believe it has already been proven that this drone tilts. When above the telephone poles, it was tilting at least 23 degrees in order to illuminate the bottom of the paddle.


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« Reply #1109 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 2:38pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 2:20pm, Marvin wrote:
What are your thoughts?


Those two pics show a small movement. It's not moving fast at that time. The witnesses describe the movement as erratic, slow then abruptly fast but rotating continuously (as if the rotation is independent from the navigation). BTW, if you want to verify the picture sequence you only need to look at the exif data.
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