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« Reply #1125 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 6:58pm »

that iis interesting question Vonstoorn as the device rumored and resembling disturbingly so apipe cleaner used in the Petroll industry, and in fact are GPS navigated .These are specially designed and autonomusaly programmed ..come in all sizes. and are very good at what they do.
Alien or not the craft would need a navigation system, and for positioning and reference use a stars luminosity or such ..especiall if their Cpus went offline ..as our do.I dont think Vonstorn was talking about an ancient scroll. I remember an old movie where an ancient craft was uncovered..Tommyknockers by stephen king..despite having a ship that traversed stars..they relied on primivite electricl charging using wires and humans..
Europe had a renassaince as result of uncovering old knowledge..So a society can evolve having quite advanced tech in one area..yet resort to what we might call primitive in another..It does not have to be consistent all the way acrooss the board.


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« Reply #1126 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 7:13pm »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 6:42pm, Nodnunk wrote:
May I interject that the Global Positioning System (GPS) does not use star maps. The GPS satellites transmit L-Band Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) signals continuously along with the satellite ephemerides. Your GPS receiver uses that information from four or more satellites to compute its unique 3D location plus GPS time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gps



Thank you for correcting this. I may have expressed myself somewhat unclear, and I apologize for that. cheesy

It might be wrong to draw similarities between interstellar guide systems and the Earth orbital GPS system.

To clarify this, what I meant was, that the stars (or any other body in space) emits much more than just visible light. Gamma, x-rays microwave etc. It's origin comes from the core of stars and planets. Each heavenly body has a unique "fingerprint", and it might be the way the navigation system of the drones work. (This can be somewhat technical) If the drones echo the emissions from (their) known stars, comparing it to banks of maps within, knowing the distance in micrometers, they might be able to adjust their position within micro seconds of square millimeters, depending of the carrier wave they use. Systems of that magnitude and precision can be made due to the density of the "matter" that is executing the commands for navigation in particular. States of density was what "Isaac" wrote: (every part of the matter holds a copy of the entire system) freely extracted.

I hope you understand this better, never be afraid to ask, if we stop asking, we may never be able to understand the answers that we might be given in the future.

I owe you, for bringing this up, it would never have occured to me if you didn't work on this question.

Thanks,

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« Reply #1127 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 10:44pm »

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The analysis was objective, knowing all these experts opinions lean toward that UFO's being likely alien craft. Two of the outside experts are even possible abductees, so their 'slant' if anything is pre-existing.... it is towards UFO's being extraterrestrial in a very personal way. Still, the outside Mufon experts emphatically stated they were most definitely bogus.


This passage raises eyebrows to say the least...

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« Reply #1128 on: Sep 28th, 2007, 11:07pm »

Well I just finished Halo 3. Yes on the easiest setting! grin Sorry no drone there! cry I say this because early on the drone was mentioned as a possible publicity stunt for Halo 3 by skeptics and debunkers. It is a pretty good game. Great graphics! Since I haven't read the last ten pages of this thread yet I hope I'm not repeating anything someone else has said. Dan
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« Reply #1129 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 02:00am »

Saladfingers has finished his Drone music video (Droneonlineís soundtrack), I canít say anything other than itís truly magnificent!! shocked

Seriously just watch it, itís very professionally done, it was posted about 5 hours ago, the divshare link and Saladís post is below:

"OK, after a marathon of creating this... From Drones original and amazing track, to a few months of work on the animation, and then the nightmare of encoding and uploading...

Here it is!

I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I enjoyed making it.. and Drones tune never grows old! Love it!

Enjoyyyyyyy!!!!!!

http://www.divshare.com/download/2148905-d71

92 megabyte download! be warned! Also, you will need DivX installed...

Go to www.divX.com and get the free player!

Keep good everyone!!

Kris
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« Reply #1130 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 02:56am »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 3:04pm, Latitude wrote:
I posted this to Steve's forum and was banned the next day without an explanation. Also my post about the IP addresses, which was completely civil, respectful and within forum guidelines, was deleted. I sent an email to Steve asking why I was banned and the email bounced back to me three days later.

This guy is obviously lying about the facts, but why?

Well, at least you were allowed to enter there. Here's how my registration went (Sep 18) - Quote:
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Unfortunately, your recent registration application at The UFOResearcher.com Forum has been declined.

And this guy has the nerve to talk about OM forum as not being open minded... what a hypocrite.
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« Reply #1131 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 03:06am »

on Sep 29th, 2007, 02:56am, nekitamo wrote:
Well, at least you were allowed to enter there. Here's how my registration went (Sep 18) -
And this guy has the nerve to talk about OM forum as not being open minded... what a hypocrite.

The site has been down for a couple of days or so now. undecided
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« Reply #1132 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 04:07am »

on Sep 29th, 2007, 02:00am, DrDil wrote:
Saladfingers has finished his Drone music video (Droneonlineís soundtrack), I canít say anything other than itís truly magnificent!! shocked

Seriously just watch it, itís very professionally done, it was posted about 5 hours ago, the divshare link and Saladís post is below:

"OK, after a marathon of creating this... From Drones original and amazing track, to a few months of work on the animation, and then the nightmare of encoding and uploading...

Here it is!

I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I enjoyed making it.. and Drones tune never grows old! Love it!

Enjoyyyyyyy!!!!!!

http://www.divshare.com/download/2148905-d71

92 megabyte download! be warned! Also, you will need DivX installed...

Go to www.divX.com and get the free player!

Keep good everyone!!

Kris
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« Reply #1133 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 04:23am »

Luverly piece of work from Saladfingers. The man is highly skilled in more than the CG field, it seems. I'm a bit of an amateur muso myself, but there's no way I could have put that together without a great deal more knowledge.
Very enjoyable. ... and danceable, too.. smiley
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« Reply #1134 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 05:53am »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 7:13pm, VonStern wrote:
It might be wrong to draw similarities between interstellar guide systems and the Earth orbital GPS system.



Sorry, I thought you were implying that our own GPS employed star maps. I agree that interstellar flight would need some sort of navigation system. It could be based upon natural emitters (stars, pulsars) or an artificial galactic GPS-like arrangement. If the second, then why haven't the SETI folks noticed it? Because SETI radio searches look for very narrow band signals. The GPS transmits a "spread spectrum" signal that has very little energy in any narrow band. Essentially undetectable and indistinguishable from natural background noise.

Speculation: Perhaps the circular array of prongs on the top of the drones are the elements of a multi-frequency phased array antenna used for navigation, communication, etc.
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« Reply #1135 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 07:48am »

on Sep 29th, 2007, 04:23am, wreckage wrote:
Luverly piece of work from Saladfingers. The man is highly skilled in more than the CG field, it seems. I'm a bit of an amateur muso myself, but there's no way I could have put that together without a great deal more knowledge.
Very enjoyable. ... and danceable, too.. smiley

I hope this excellent video will make some people think again about his comments on this case. Now there's no doubt that he's an expert in his field (CG) and I believe this video will finally bring some long deserved media attention to this case.

EDIT: here are some images from the video (by RoH):
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« Reply #1136 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 08:05am »

so when r we supposed to hear from isaac? lipsrsealed
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« Reply #1137 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 09:13am »

on Sep 28th, 2007, 11:02am, castles4me wrote:
I still don't think the drones tilt. For some reason I think that they pivot and hover parallel to the surface of the planet and remain perpendicular to the gravitational pull. Just a gut feeling I suppose. (Since I haven't deciphered the linguistics primers yet lol) grin tongue


If you look closely at the capitola sequence you can see that it travels with no particular leading edge, nothing is the "front".
As it approaches one section leads the way, as it goes over the pole one certain part is leading, but as it leaves another section leads the way. I think you're thinking of the desciption of movement from the guy doing testing in the woods. That doesn't seem to apply to this one's movement.
There is no tilting either, that is the angle the pics are taken at, if it was tilted you'd be able to see more of a circle underneath rather than an oval shape in the center of the craft. If there is, at times it looks to be minimal in a couple of shots, it has nothing to do with it's flight operation.
The last thing this craft is is aerodynamic, doesn't have one surface on it that would create lift in an atmosphere. That Russian craft is a giant lifting surface, hence the little wings on it. I have footage of the model flying, it does work. If you were to put a propeller on the Capitola craft it would spin out of control, and it would be quite audible and visible.
Making any comparisons of this crafts flight dynamics, that we know squat about to our stuff is ludicrous. You can't find anything on Earth built by Humans that even looks like this does, that in itself should be enough to put questions like that to rest. And I mean without something attached that spins or spits flames or makes a whole lot of racket as it goes over your head.
The last time I checked we Humans actually don't know everything.
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« Reply #1138 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 09:32am »

on Sep 29th, 2007, 07:48am, nekitamo wrote:
I hope this excellent video will make some people think again about his comments on this case. Now there's no doubt that he's an expert in his field (CG) and I believe this video will finally bring some long deserved media attention to this case.

EDIT: here are some images from the video (by RoH):
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Nice work, he's put quite alot of effort into that presentation and more than a tad of imagination.
On his Capitola type craft.......well let's just say that it must be really hard to duplicate natural light, the craft's surface texture, and how the light reacts with it.
Still haven't seen anything that has that, for lack of a better description "it's there" look.
As soon as I can get my cam from my daughter I have to put some frames up from a video I took of a large black tube near some telephone poles in my town floating in the sky. It's about 3 minutes long, have much to choose from for comparison.
Gimme a few hours.
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« Reply #1139 on: Sep 29th, 2007, 09:36am »

Yes, what it was about from day one, the hijacking of a serious case for self aggrandizement and self promotion. Not one thing added to the solution of the mystery nor even a hint of the original realism of the drones. Utter ego spread evenly over a gullible group and a perfect government debunking of the possibility this was a real event. A foreshadow of things to come in the psychological manipulation of the gamers generation.
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