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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1380 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 7:17pm »

Bragging rights…

We had our family photo flown on the ISS (Mission 14) but do not tell my wife… it is going to be a Xmas gift to her. My personal thanks to Mikhail Tyurin. That’s our photo there in the center (in the white notebook) aboard the ISS.

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« Reply #1381 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 7:20pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 7:17pm, Marvin wrote:
Bragging rights…

We had our family photo flown on the ISS (Mission 14) but do not tell my wife… it is going to be a Xmas gift to her. My personal thanks to Mikhail Tyurin. That’s our photo there in the center (in the white notebook) aboard the ISS.

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That's a neat idea. How much did it cost you?
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« Reply #1382 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 9:30pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 6:16pm, DarkSky wrote:
History channel has produced two good "UFO Files" episodes on USOs

USOs & USOs: Red Alert.

This is going to be part three of a series?



Yes, my understanding is this is the last planned one in the trio. It will have Preston Dennett and a few others who were in the other programs. I have been having conversations with Mr. Dennett since he contacted me about this. He seems to be an intelligent, focused and impressive individual where these matters are concerned. And the two producers check out with excellent credentials. I keep having this nightmare that I will mention the drones and be whisked away, under security, off the set and out of the temporary limelight!
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« Reply #1383 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 9:33pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 6:05pm, LangLee wrote:
Yeah, based on our transmissions and your observations (you're not from here), would you really land anywhere near our World Leaders ?.


I agree. ET would likely see Bush as an evolutionary throwback and be afraid to present something so ominous as a new idea, progressive world view or a peace/cooperation pact.
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« Reply #1384 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 11:01pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:25am, Razor wrote:
The expert has given you a clear conclusion in the above communication which states :

"The conclusion is clear: the diagrams are somehow related to the controlling element S1."

Anyone what is S1?



Couldn't S1 deal directly with the Linguistics Analysis Primer?
Could S1 just be a device that puts the LAP into holograph form?

Issac says: "But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it."

I really think S1 and the "LAP" go together!
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« Reply #1385 on: Oct 2nd, 2007, 11:29pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 9:33pm, starsigndavid wrote:
I agree. ET would likely see Bush as an evolutionary throwback and be afraid to present something so ominous as a new idea, progressive world view or a peace/cooperation pact.


I think ET would see mankind as an evolutionary throwback, still tryin to invent the "wheel"... smiley
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« Reply #1386 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:10am »

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I agree. ET would likely see Bush as an evolutionary throwback and be afraid to present something so ominous as a new idea, progressive world view or a peace/cooperation pact.


Politics is right behind religion as a touchy subject. We aren't here for that.

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« Reply #1387 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:29am »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 11:29pm, newtothis wrote:
I think ET would see mankind as an evolutionary throwback, still tryin to invent the "wheel"... smiley


I definitely have to agree with you there. We have a shoot it, kill it, skin it, gut it, hang it out to dry, run it over with the truck, be scared of it mentality towards most things we do not understand. Someone on here had the marvelous quote from Men In Black: "A person is smart; people are dumb."
...and while I certainly agree that religion and politics are touchy, there is no way to be a believer in these phenomena and not tweak all politicians for their misguided paternality in deciding we need to be protected from the truth. Speaking truth to power is what we do on here, so there is no way to divorce all elusions to the PTB from the discussions on here.
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« Reply #1388 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:30am »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 9:30pm, starsigndavid wrote:
I keep having this nightmare that I will mention the drones and be whisked away, under security, off the set and out of the temporary limelight!
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I'm sure you do fine. This may be the show that breaks the drone silence. If not you may at least find out what kind of resistance the drones are dealing with in the mass media and then be able to report back... hopefully wink
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« Reply #1389 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:35am »

on Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:30am, Latitude wrote:
I'm sure you do fine. This may be the show that breaks the drone silence. If not you may at least find out what kind of resistance the drones are dealing with in the mass media and then be able to report back... hopefully wink


Thanks--you can all be certain I will do what I can to speak about it AND listen about it, too. I am sure these folks are not unaware of the drone case, though they may not have it front and center in their thoughts. I can just see them coming in here, reading this, and deciding I am trouble with a capital "T", which, of course, I am not! I have one mouth but two ears for a reason! smiley
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« Reply #1390 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:50am »

on Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:10am, hjdelight wrote:
Politics is right behind religion as a touchy subject. We aren't here for that.

HJ


...and while I am thinking of it, my criticism extends to WHATEVER paternalistic [do I have to make that maternalistic if Hillary C. wins??]
occupant of the White House and Security apparatus is in office. We can easily --and should--start with Truman, Eisenhower and continue forward. I might be able to give a pass to Ford, Carter and Reagan, since there seems to be records that show they tried. They also clearly shared our curiosity.
But I challenge anyone on here to maintain that our politicians don't prefer to treat us like children and feed us disinformation. Even with all the "plausible deniability" crap, can it be that if the President gave a firm and clear order to those in the know to reveal the truth to him, that they would still refuse. I have seen a President's temper up close--it is NOT fun.
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« Reply #1391 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 05:12am »

on Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:50am, starsigndavid wrote:
...and while I am thinking of it, my criticism extends to WHATEVER paternalistic [do I have to make that maternalistic if Hillary C. wins??]
occupant of the White House and Security apparatus is in office. We can easily --and should--start with Truman, Eisenhower and continue forward. I might be able to give a pass to Ford, Carter and Reagan, since there seems to be records that show they tried. They also clearly shared our curiosity.
But I challenge anyone on here to maintain that our politicians don't prefer to treat us like children and feed us disinformation. Even with all the "plausible deniability" crap, can it be that if the President gave a firm and clear order to those in the know to reveal the truth to him, that they would still refuse. I have seen a President's temper up close--it is NOT fun.



Until the public (a majority) take the subject (UFOs) seriously no president will placate a perceived fringe (read crazies) element of society especially if they have no vote significance (politically insignificant).

And if you think this is not the popular or majority opinion, just note the smirk and snide comments the next time a news commentator has a UFO story to report. Or see Mufon's timetraveler96 on the Mufon bulletin board. or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2MihN2vwsI


This is the challenge facing the UFO community, credibility. Until this public perception changes no president or even political candidate will touch this subject seriously (remember Carter).


Also FYI, Steve Neal (?) Has worked for the history channel making some of the UFO graphics. He was one of the consultants used by Mufon to provide opinion on the authenticity of some of the drone pictures. I don't know specifically which pictures he reviewed.



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« Reply #1392 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 06:21am »

on Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:19am, danblast wrote:
I don't know the whole crop circle thing never made sense to me. I mean why scribble in cornfields when you can make either direct contact or use a better medium.

I think crop circles started off as a unique event then got hijacked as pop art and opportunities for hoaxes.


maybe they've tried to make other forms of communication but we've missed it or it's been kept from us? Seems like a last ditch effort to try and make us see there's something else out there and also convey a message
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« Reply #1393 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 06:47am »

Saladfingers drone video gets attention!

American chronicle
UFO Drone VIDEO - Stunning video blasts UFO debate into orbit!
Link:http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=38979

TDG/Dailygrail.com:
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The latest video posted here on TDG is an absolute must-watch
for those who have been following the UFO 'Drones' fiasco
over the last few months.
Link: http://dailygrail.com/node/5345

forgetomori:
Video: Drone - Strange Craft
Link: http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/video-drone-strange-craft/


From OM forum:
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Tomi, I understand your concern, and
thanks for passing that on. In fact if anyone comes
across any articles like that, could you post me a link so
I can contact them and address their concerns please?
Thanks.

Anyway, I have left the following comment on their site,
hopefully it should help!



From TDG:
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Kris here... and I am NOT THE HOAXER!

Hi folks,

listen, you can take me straight OFF the hoaxers list...

If the drone case was hoaxed.. if (because it has yet to be proven) it was not me. Feelings about the possibility of what you imagine this case to be do not make it so. It is way more complicated than that. My video (to some) can only ever show that it is possible that the drones could be the result of CG, not that they are. There is much to be done before that is proven positive or negative.

I will also reply to the comment about how easy it was to create this video. It wasn't! It took a fair amount of time, and was not a walk in the park.

I'm very glad that the video has been enjoyed, and I am extremely flattered by some of the wonderful feedback! I never expected such a resounding response. But it was not created to debunk, and the wide majority of people who have seen it don't think so either. It is a dedication to some of the extremely talented and intelligent people who have put many many hours of study into this case. It is also a result of the artistic inspiration I have drawn from the unique imagery in the drones and the CARET documents. Ultimately, it was created to breathe life into objects we have only ever seen as flat 2D images, while bringing some entertainment and enjoyment along the way!

Whether real or not, there are some amazing visual aspects in the original presented evidence. I think the primer part of the video presents this inspiration to the fullest.

So please, don't dismiss the drone case outright because my work looks pretty close. It took a lot of work to get them as close as they are. A lot of studying of the images.

The answer to this case is personal to everyone, but no one has 'proved' anything. Merely provided possibilities, and there are so many of these to choose from. To dismiss this case on a feeling is to dismiss the search for the truth.

I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven't proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn't been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don't think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end.
It is over when it is proven one way or the other, not before.
To say such is to belittle the hard work done by some very dedicated researchers. This I have learned along the way!

Final note. The special thanks to Linda Moulton Howe is for the kind lending of her voice to the amazing piece of music by 'Drone'. She is not related to the video in the sense of her involvement in any way. I have never spoken to her myself. But I take this opportunity to thank her again for sounding so cool on the track! It wouldn't be so good without her on there, and it gives the music a backbone that makes sense of the images.

Anyway, I hope this message clears a few things up. I refuse to be the debunkers champion, or any such nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I honestly hope everyone makes up their own mind, as opposed to being swayed by the flat conclusions of others.

That's it really. Maybe you could post this letter a little more prominently? As I don't really like being tagged with the hoaxer brush. I want to make it VERY CLEAR, that the original evidence has nothing to do with me.

Thanks and the kindest of regards,

Kris : )




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« Reply #1394 on: Oct 3rd, 2007, 07:11am »

on Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:50am, starsigndavid wrote:
...and while I am thinking of it, my criticism extends to WHATEVER paternalistic [do I have to make that maternalistic if Hillary C. wins??]
occupant of the White House and Security apparatus is in office. We can easily --and should--start with Truman, Eisenhower and continue forward. I might be able to give a pass to Ford, Carter and Reagan, since there seems to be records that show they tried. They also clearly shared our curiosity.
But I challenge anyone on here to maintain that our politicians don't prefer to treat us like children and feed us disinformation. Even with all the "plausible deniability" crap, can it be that if the President gave a firm and clear order to those in the know to reveal the truth to him, that they would still refuse. I have seen a President's temper up close--it is NOT fun.


And what happened when JFK tried to speak out against the MIC/secret Societies?
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