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« Reply #1455 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 01:33am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 12:47am, Latitude wrote:
I would not call it expired. I think it's gone on hiatus. It will never die. Did Roswell die? Yes, I think LMH is now concentrating on other things right now. She has the big conference coming up next month.


I have no problem bringing it up as long as I know I can point the producers/others involved, IF they are interested, to a still-active and viable thread on the internet [using this site as my proof of that interest.] I want to be "backed up", so to speak, by you all on here, so that I don't point them towards a story thread that is extinct. So, do keep your speculations, researches, interests and thoughts active on here. I was concerned by the many "drop-outs" from the discussions. I thought maybe I had missed something significant that had put everyone off the phenomenon for some reason.
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« Reply #1456 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 07:49am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 01:33am, starsigndavid wrote:
I have no problem bringing it up as long as I know I can point the producers/others involved, IF they are interested, to a still-active and viable thread on the internet [using this site as my proof of that interest.] I want to be "backed up", so to speak, by you all on here, so that I don't point them towards a story thread that is extinct. So, do keep your speculations, researches, interests and thoughts active on here. I was concerned by the many "drop-outs" from the discussions. I thought maybe I had missed something significant that had put everyone off the phenomenon for some reason.
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I found the discussion by Sys_Config on ATS starting at around page 182 to the end very interesting. He develops a unique hypothesis

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg180

Also tied in with this and interesting also, blueprints for a ship in crop circles.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YLBePbCxhCA

http://www.cropcircleship.com/


Not sure if casebook has looked into this from this angle? But I think this (Sys_Config) hypothesis would be very interesting for the history channel to explore.


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« Reply #1457 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:06am »

I agree, the drones/Isaac story is far from dead. For a two month period or so, there was a wealth of data released, we all got a little spoiled grin

A key point is that this story still hasn't been proven to be a hoax. To my knowledge, no conclusive evidence has come forth demonstrating that the drones were CGI created. I've seen only speculation. Furthermore, suggestions of a marketing campaigns for Halo 3 and Transformers came and went. Yes, this case does have its issues, the biggest being hiding witnesses. Yet, the simple fact that the evidence that Chad, Raj, Ty, and Stephen presented has stood up to a large amount of scrutiny says something.

This is just going to be moved to the back burner until another sighting or Isaac data release happens. Maybe its time to ask LMH to release the other high rez photos again? hehe...this time we can say pretty please!

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« Reply #1458 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:09am »

I agree with Luvey, when something like this suddenly has a curtain brought down over it there's usually something going on behind that curtain that we aren't supposed to see.

The bottom line IMHO is that, despite an unprecedented (internet wide) effort to declare this a hoax - no one has managed to stamp the case "closed". We have plenty of theories, several were dismissed early on (the viral marketing / video game tie in), some still persist (the all CGI camp), but nothing has been conclusive. It's been several months now, other hoaxes have come and gone. Instead of evidence of fraud produced by the "big names" in ufology we have - nothing. That's pretty scary. Those are the folks that are supposed to be on our side.

If LMH is keeping tight lipped while typing away on her computer as she chats with Isaac, not releasing anything isn't a very good marketing tactic. If she wants buyers lined up for the book then it would benefit her to keep this subject alive in the news. A simple, even vague update on her site, would do it. So that part of it is as much of a mystery to me as Isaac, CARET, the LAP, and the craft themselves.

No, I don't think this is over. How can it be without an answer? I think that we've just run out of fresh angles so it's slowly migrated from the front to the back burner.
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« Reply #1459 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:11am »

Drewlac - we were posting at the same time - amazing how similar our words are. Great minds think alike (or something like that) smiley.
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« Reply #1460 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:28am »

Oh please, there's no way LMH could ever do a book on Isaac. What's she going to do copy/paste out of OMF and the UFO Casebook. lol

Both websites have written novels already so what kind of book could she EVER come up with unless she were to steal our words and OMF's words?

If one were to Google just the words Open Mind's Forum drone and UFO Casebook drone, there are already hundreds and hundreds of addresses that pre-date any book she could ever think of ever putting together because those two forums alone would shred her apart.

As far as I'm concerned she seriously dropped the ball and doesn't deserve to ever benefit from Isaac and the drones. As well, she should let go of it and give it to someone that can run with it.

This forum and OMF did more then she ever did or could do. Alls she did was report what was sent to her. Big deal, anybody can do that.

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« Reply #1461 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:55am »

I agree, AC, that most of the research has been conducted by our two forums. What we don't know is what's been going on since Isaac went silent. I have no idea, but having said that, it's not inconceivable that he decided to talk exclusively with LMH to avoid the kind of internet attacks that resulted when he first put his toe in the water. In that way he gets the story out without all hysteria - at least until the book comes out. I'm NOT saying that this is what is happening, or what should be happening, only what could be happening. I think we'd all like to know why the lid clamped down. It seems a bit out of character for LMH, someone who by the very nature of her work needs to keep these high profile cases alive to stay on top, to suddenly drop all mention. The stuff on her site these days is pretty much the same junk you'd read in the supermarket tabloids. Very disappointing!
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« Reply #1462 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 08:58am »

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This forum and OMF did more then she ever did or could do. Alls she did was report what was sent to her. Big deal, anybody can do that.


You never know what goes on behind the scenes. She is already in the media, so what if she had been contacted by movie people wanting to make a movie of this.....she could be an advisor. It may sound over the top but in this day and age nothing seems impossible. There is enough information here to make a movie of....wouldn't you agree. The pull of big money is a big drawcard. I am probably wrong on that but nothing seems to surprise anymore.

I know that if someone has been very vocal and then all of a sudden shuts up, then something else is going on. Every mother knows that when her children are playing and making a noise, and then suddenly they are quiet they are up to something. I have seen this same pattern with adults repeatedly.

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« Reply #1463 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 09:03am »



I don't think so. I just see her busy with other things and the Isaac thing is just sitting. She wouldn't have agreed to Latitude/Razor about forwarding that email to Isaac if she was in the process of writing a book.

That and a few other reasons. She's busy in her website still every day. I don't see it happening.

I just emailed her. It's nothing you want to see but basically told her to p*** or get off the pot. lol

I'm in my biotch mood today so why not. lol
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« Reply #1464 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 09:10am »

I dont understand her reluctance to even answer our Thank you mails. This implies to me Issac used her as a vehicle to full fill his agenda, and has broken contact with her. If he wanted to keep her creditable he would have answered our simple and sincere questions by now.
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« Reply #1465 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 09:19am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 08:06am, drewlac wrote:
I agree, the drones/Isaac story is far from dead. A key point is that this story still hasn't been proven to be a hoax. To my knowledge, no conclusive evidence has come forth demonstrating that the drones were CGI created.

on Oct 5th, 2007, 08:09am, MarkM wrote:
The bottom line IMHO is that, despite an unprecedented (internet wide) effort to declare this a hoax - no one has managed to stamp the case "closed".

Oh please, you know who can smell this stuff a mile away.rolleyes I can see him opening the door right now with yet another piece of CGI. Maybe y'all aren't sold on his CGI but multitudes are and continue to think all the drones and Isaac are a hoax just because they were shown how easy it can be done - so they just figure it is. They don't see past that either.
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« Reply #1466 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 09:24am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 09:10am, Razor wrote:
I dont understand her reluctance to even answer our Thank you mails. This implies to me Issac used her as a vehicle to full fill his agenda, and has broken contact with her. If he wanted to keep her creditable he would have answered our simple and sincere questions by now.


At least she would have updated you. She hasn't done that either. My email I sent her might get a response. LOL
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« Reply #1467 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 09:29am »

AC, you're clearly on the record as no fan of either LMH or Saladfingers, that's fine. We all understand that. When one is rooted firmly in their opinion it gets us nowhere to question it. This is not a situation where there is a "winner" or "loser" in any discussion. It's a place for friends to share ideas. It's not a condition of membership that we always agreed on every subject. What a drag that would be! Thank goodness that we're all bright enough to weigh the information and decide for ourselves what "fits" and what doesn't.
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« Reply #1468 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 10:05am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 09:29am, MarkM wrote:
What a drag that would be! Thank goodness that we're all bright enough to weigh the information and decide for ourselves what "fits" and what doesn't.


You may be and others may be, but many others are not bright enough to weigh the information and instead are sold down the river. There's so much that you don't see though about SF and the reason why you don't is because we'll never really know which researchers might have followed up on at least some of the drones but instead didn't because his CGI was too influential. So now who's going to help them do what it is they need to do financially speaking.

I'll continue to be vocal because that's also typical of a forum. A forum is not just a place where "friends share ideas" about the topic. They also share ideas on the topic and everything that goes along with the topic. SF and LMH are a humongous part of this thread because the thread is called Re: #5 THE DRONE ENIGMA A GLOBAL SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. Well, so much for the search for truth. LMH doesn't care to share the truth and SF puts a tilt on it so sure, my comments are as good as the next persons.

I know the forum rules Mark. There is no where in them that says I can't point out the misconceptions of SF's CGI antics or LMH's lack of researching ability.

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Ok everyone This is not a situation where there is a "winner" or "loser" in any discussion. It's a place for friends to share ideas.


That quote of yours above is not stated in the rules Mark. This is an open forum. You cannot keep people from questioning the actions of others especially when their intentions have to do with our interests.
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« Reply #1469 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 10:48am »

on Oct 5th, 2007, 08:58am, Luvey wrote:
You never know what goes on behind the scenes. She is already in the media, so what if she had been contacted by movie people wanting to make a movie of this.....she could be an advisor. It may sound over the top but in this day and age nothing seems impossible. There is enough information here to make a movie of....wouldn't you agree. The pull of big money is a big drawcard. I am probably wrong on that but nothing seems to surprise anymore.


Funny you mention that. A movie is a great idea and one that I have been thinking about for a long time. I don't have the resources to do anything like that. Salad does and is now planning a documentary. Unfortunately I don't have much faith in it's accuracy. But on the other side of the coin, it may provide more media attention.

I hope LMH is writing a book if only so we can see what has been kept from us. I think a book from her would be missing many important points.

I think the reason LMH is so quiet when it comes to the forums is because she does not trust us or simply does not like us. That's sad. It seems to me that we are her most ardent followers.
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