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« Reply #240 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 12:07pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 10:56am, SETI wrote:
Yes. I sincerely hope more is released. The documents/info released so far are exciting, because they may actually be our first face to face review of government studies on alien/extradimensional technology. The documents appear to be far too extensive to be the product of a hoax.


I too hope more is released. I would like to see more about the "primer". I hope to see a break through like the moment in K-PAX, when the earth scientist discovered the planet in the constellation of Lyra, having the same exact orbit as prot described. I think that would do it for me. wink
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« Reply #241 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 12:24pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 12:07pm, Marvin wrote:
I too hope more is released. I would like to see more about the "primer".


I agree regarding release of additonal information, if available, regarding the primer. That may open the doors to possibilities we cannot presently imagine. It would be interesting whether the release of additional information shows interconnections to other avenues of government analysis of even more advanced alien/interdimensional technology. Being a possible tip of a huge iceberg, the drones may be a relatively primitive form of alien/interdimensional technology compared to what else the government may be exploring.

Perhaps, as part of some trade off, the government may have been "allowed" to explore the drone technology, which may be outdated by older civilizations' standards. It may be analogous to our 21st century society "giving" the blueprints for a relatively primitive watch to a less advanced cave society to create the perception of a "trade off" to serve our selfish purposes with minimal interference while maintaining our technological superiority.
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« Reply #242 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 12:29pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 10:50am, Latitude wrote:
I think it would be a good thing for her to work more closely with us. She could post here with small tidbits of any and all her contacts with Isaac and the rest. I sent her an email yesterday about her C2C revelation and she emailed me back right away but she still seems evasive. I get the feeling she does not see the same urgency that we do or she is afraid of her info getting into competing hands. I think I'll send her a follow up.


That's sort of gimme. She is evasive. The next time you email her - send her the following pictures. Let her see what in the heck is going on that she is not really privy to and that continues today. I'm going to send you something via PM. You get it in an email to her.
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« Reply #243 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 12:45pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 11:15am, drewlac wrote:
Hopefully, Isaac is true to his word regarding not making money on future information releases. I would have to imagine/hope that if he were to release any info directly to LMH he'd forbid her to put it in a book.

"Lastly, there are so many people selling books, and DVDs, and doing lectures, and all that, that I would like to reiterate the fact that I am not here to sell anything. The material I'm sharing is free to distribute provided it's all kept intact and unmodified, and this letter is included. I tend to question the motives of anyone charging money for their information, and will assure you that I will never do such a thing. And in the future, just to cover all the bases, anyone claiming to be me who's selling a DVD or book is most certainly not going to be me."

Anyway, it is obvious at this point that nobody will make money out of this story: absolutely no media coverage and only interesting at the very best a few thousand people in the world... Maybe, Isaac knew it wouldn't be mediatized because of its reality and knew money couldn't be an option. I'm very intrigued by the motivations under this hoax/story. I really can't see the point unless something is gonna happen which we are unaware.
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« Reply #244 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 12:46pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 06:46am, onthefence55 wrote:
To be clear for everyone, can you clarify how this came to you ... in a dream?
no not a dream. gforce came up with Isaac mite be a woman.castle4me asked that everyone go back and read the caret documents over. I could not sleep last night. i stared seeing weird looking aliens in my head. then bj booth name sounded then case book finaly latitude. then i got up out of the bed and logged on that's what i wrote. wink
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« Reply #245 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 3:02pm »

I made a contact who submitted to a third party regarding the hi-res BB photo.

I dont know who these experts are or even if they are...but I trust my contact...of course they want to be anonymous....post the email below.

Just to be clear, it is not George Knapp

Thanks Andrew! I certainly wish you luck in getting the word out.

I thought I'd send the results of the analysis of that pic to you, and not bother OMF. Neither person wishes to be named, as they don't want a bunch of people tracking them down saying, "Well, what if..." I hope you understand.

First one says this quote below in conclusion(after ruling out CGI completely):


I say the model fake is possible because when I ran an edge finder routine on the pic to search for possible removed suspension lines the routine found NO edges whatsoever, even those which are clear in the picture. This leads me to suspect that the image may have been sneakily run through a "blur" type processor and then resampled as this is the only means I know of to remove all edge distinctions (there are none found at all even under grey scale or negative image). If such has been done it would handily erase any fine
suspension wires or threads.
Basically the second person says the same thing, except he lays it down at 65-35 chances of it being a photographed model because he feels a little more confident that for some reason the picture's been purposefully blurred.

Neither of them would step out on a limb and say "yes, it was manipulated", and, in fact, they both said that if it was it was probably professionally done, and quite well at that. One thing that might lend credence to that, is that apparently the file shows signs of cross-platform processing(Mac and PC), and, of course, many pros use Macs.

In the end, they both feel it's plausible that it's a model, but neither are certain at all.

I just wanted to give you all of that since you were kind enough to send it on to me
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« Reply #246 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 3:27pm »

Repost -- since nobody answered me the first time.

"The technology itself isn't ours, or at least it wasn't in the 80's. Much like the technology in these crafts themselves, the device capable of remotely hijacking a vehicle's cloaking comes from a non-human source too. Why we were given this technology has never been clear to me, but it's responsible for a lot. Our having access to this kind of device, along with our occasionally haphazard experimentation on them, has lead to everything from cloaking malfunctions like this to full-blown crashes. I can assure you that most (and in my opinion all) incidents of UFO crashes or that kind of thing had more to do with our meddling with extremely powerful technology at an inopportune time than it did mechanical failure on their part. Trust me, those things don't fail unless something even more powerful than them makes them fail (intentionally or not). Think of it like a stray bullet. You can be hit by one at any time, without warning, and even the shooter didn't intent to hit you. I can assure you heads are rolling over this as well."

OK... in this it says "Why we were given this technology has never been clear to me" -- I think this is a very important statement.

Because, this proves that we have had contact with the aliens. Not just that we got one of their crashed drones and started making commercial apps from it....

The fact is that We were GIVEN the anti-cloaking technology, a very POWERFUL technology.

Why were we given it, and what did we give in exchange?
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« Reply #247 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 3:33pm »

Qouting Murnut:

It's great work, bringing in experts, good job! cheesy

IMHO, if LMH has the original photo's , this question is obsolete. I agree with ATO, we need these "TY" photos, in original. Then we'll know for sure.

As to why she's holding them back, are questionable, either money or forthcoming book.

It's safe to say, however, if you got your hand on gold, would you let it slip away?

SETI, do you have connections to the SETI Group? Just a humble question, since I find your posts evasively more intrigant and far literate than normal.

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« Reply #248 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 5:32pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 3:27pm, castles4me wrote:
Why we were given this technology has never been clear to me


He means given to them, as in the people he worked with, not aliens giving it to humans.

I simply believe that it was a drone that fell down and went boom, or clunk or whatever sound it made. grin
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« Reply #249 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 5:56pm »

noise1analyst just stated the following in OMF so let's back up and slow down since most everything other then Isaac was digital. At this point, I think it's safe to dismiss the whole noise1analyst thing.

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I am not a digital camera expert (hardware), nor I am a photographic expert. I only have worked on developing a software that analyzes noise in images and match it with physical hardware (camera). So, please, if I say something not correct or inacurate, point it out, it's perfectly OK.



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« Reply #250 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 6:13pm »

If "Isaac" photo of the Artifacts laying on the Hangar floor is fakery, why is it still here? Why hasn't this been removed? If not by MoD, or other Intelligence?

The ansver: This is given by a "WhistleBlower" to water the grounds, and to wager upon how deep impact are given if released to general public. ??

Today allmost anything goes, and are not mentioned as our world are filled with technology. Cellphones able to show TV, Flatscreens able to show true 3d...would it be to far out to say, that if we were to present Alien Technology, the respose from the vast public would be: So what? Until, offcourse, it grasps everyone...THEN it will make differerence...

In my youth, the pure talking of ET would make one seem as rediculous, an item of herrassment?

Today, if it comes to true disclosure, at first it will remain unresponded, but when it is finally made a part of our world, it will only be terrifying to the older gererations. Ask anyone in the street, they probably will accept the use of tech originated from ET backengineering. All due to the technology thrown in our faces today.

It sure is the right time to "out" the secrets...

Yet again my astray thoughts, feel free to comment,

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« Reply #251 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 6:21pm »


MoD, wrong country. lol

As far as our people, maybe they have.
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« Reply #252 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 6:26pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 6:21pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
MoD, wrong country. lol

As far as our people, maybe they have.


Depending on where you live, we have a Ministry of Defence in Denmark. LOL

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Edit: I guess I wasn't specific on this, sorry. I should have said DoD... grin grin grin
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« Reply #253 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 6:33pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 6:26pm, VonStern wrote:
Depending on where you live, we have a Ministry of Defence in Denmark. LOL

VonStern

Edit: I guess I wasn't specific on this, sorry. I should have said DoD... grin grin grin


There ya go. DoD. Then again, a lot of people like to think that everyone at the DoD is watching out for us when they have their own agendas - hey, they even have their own families that they go home to.

They may have an eye on Isaac. Like I said a long time ago, it wouldn't take them much time at all to figure out who he was unless he was lieing about his particular position. They don't throw employee records out - ever. Instead, they would have thrown the records on microfiche and that's where they sit today.
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« Reply #254 on: Sep 5th, 2007, 6:50pm »

on Sep 5th, 2007, 3:02pm, murnut wrote:
I say the model fake is possible because when I ran an edge finder routine on the pic to search for possible removed suspension lines the routine found NO edges whatsoever, even those which are clear in the picture. This leads me to suspect that the image may have been sneakily run through a "blur" type processor and then resampled as this is the only means I know of to remove all edge distinctions (there are none found at all even under grey scale or negative image). If such has been done it would handily erase any fine
suspension wires or threads.
Basically the second person says the same thing, except he lays it down at 65-35 chances of it being a photographed model because he feels a little more confident that for some reason the picture's been purposefully blurred.

Neither of them would step out on a limb and say "yes, it was manipulated", and, in fact, they both said that if it was it was probably professionally done, and quite well at that. One thing that might lend credence to that, is that apparently the file shows signs of cross-platform processing(Mac and PC), and, of course, many pros use Macs.

In the end, they both feel it's plausible that it's a model, but neither are certain at all.

I just wanted to give you all of that since you were kind enough to send it on to me [/i]


I think LMH uses a Mac.

How can you get an honest opinion from somebody who refuses to believe in ET visitation? To them it's one of two things, CGI or models. So the guy can't find any sign of wires to hang a model. So what does he suspect? Some blur processing must have been done. Anything but ET, I guess. rolleyes

I'm beginning to think that taking these photos to any experts on CGI and models is the wrong thing to do. These people are so into their fields that they put way too much credence in them. Ask a cgi expert and he'll likely say "heck yes it is CGI". Ask a model expert and he'll tell you it's models. The cgi people like Saladfingers came out en mass over this thing. Most of them never believed in UFOs but showed up only to spread their CGI propaganda. To them anything can be done with cgi (even though they know the dirty truth that cgi has many limitations).

All these people have their own agendas. It's rare to find a true open mind person in these days of cynicism.
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