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« Reply #30 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 11:39am »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 10:12am, DrDil wrote:
The last two images in the sequence still trouble me....

We have no idea of what sequence these photos were taken. We also don't know how much time elapsed between shots. We have Ty's report that he took all 12 in a period of about one minute. But that is not exact enough to really help with analysis.
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« Reply #31 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 11:50am »

Update: No mainstream media that I know of are going to research this phenomenon, the "Drones of California" at the moment.
Probable cause: Has to do with a new attack in the near future on the USA from the Middle-East.
Any news considering ANY flying objects unacounted for, will help these invaders, and are therefor not to be spoken of in the media.
So, for the moment being, we have to continue the research within our own perimeters.
The recent announcements regarding the "Haiti UFO's" as a hoax has been made to calm things down in the general public.
This is the only reliable information this far, but I'll be following this.
Recently, the new "Glowing Geese" sightings in the UK and in the Netherlands, has much higher priority here in Europe.

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« Reply #32 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 12:20pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 11:39am, Latitude wrote:
We have no idea of what sequence these photos were taken. We also don't know how much time elapsed between shots. We have Ty's report that he took all 12 in a period of about one minute. But that is not exact enough to really help with analysis.


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We can do some analysis and KK & LL appear to be taken fairly close together.

If you look at the foreground trees on the left, and base the relative size to match it, here is what happens:

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The size change of the drone is not that noticeable. The strange that the happens here is the double ring slides from front to back. KK it is forward, LL it is back.

But if you base it on the background trees, which should be closer to the drone (if it is large and further away):

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When generally looking at these two photos, it would seem that Ty may have moved “somewhat”… and the drone seems to remain in about the same spot. When you scrutinize the photos and make them the same size (based on foreground or background), the appearance changes, the drone is no where near the same spot. The weird thing is (based on the background), it seems to jump directly at the camera.

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This opens the possibility that the drone is either; 1) much closer and smaller than we originally thought or 2) it may not have originally been in the photo? We are working to resolve these issues, maybe something has been missed, but I am thinking the drone is in between the tress of the left and the background trees and it is not going to be very large in size, as the best explanation. Any other thoughts?

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Made the drone the center of rotation, the trees appears to "rotate" around it. It seems very close to the tress on the left.

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« Reply #33 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 12:51pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 12:20pm, Marvin wrote:
This opens the possibility that the drone is either; 1) much closer and smaller than we originally thought or 2) it may not have originally been in the photo? We are working to resolve these issues, maybe something has been missed, but I am thinking the drone is in between the tress of the left and the background trees and it is not going to be very large in size, as the best explanation. Any other thoughts?


Since the trees on the left are essentially the same, and the trees on the right change... I think he pivoted slightly to the left to take the second photo. I think the drone is in between the two trees, and is as big as initially thought -- with large ring at least 6' - 9' across if not bigger.
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« Reply #34 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 1:13pm »

can one of you all enlarge one of these ufo's and make it clear??

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« Reply #35 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 1:25pm »

Marvin,

When examine KK and LL I draw a much different conclusion. It looks to me that Ty took KK and then moved to his left a few steps and panned right slightly to compensate for shot LL. The trees on the right look to me to be about 100 feet away and the drone about 150 feet.
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« Reply #36 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 1:30pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 1:13pm, castles4me wrote:
can one of you all enlarge one of these ufo's and make it clear??


There is a similar sighting on Mufon right now from Ohio, USA.


http://www.mufoncms.com/files/7777_submitter_file1__notsurewhatthisis.jpg
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« Reply #37 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 1:45pm »

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Um... if these are real, this could be bigger than the drones... the fact that they are appearing over multiple countries... in huge formations of a different kind of craft than what we normally see.... maybe someone "else" is here now! another race made it to the big blue marble.


I can't find any mention of either European sighting or the Ohio (Mufon) sighting on any major news carrier. Its almost like they just turn a blind eye to anything unusual.

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« Reply #38 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 1:47pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 1:30pm, Latitude wrote:
There is a similar sighting on Mufon right now from Ohio, USA.


http://www.mufoncms.com/files/7777_submitter_file1__notsurewhatthisis.jpg


There seem to be a lot of similar sightings in US, UK, Netherlands, Australia and Switzerland -- I have been posting them in the "I SAW 100 UFOS in ESSEX thread --

Our little Mikey, might be telling the truth here.
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« Reply #39 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 2:49pm »

Question ATO,

Duh..I cannot remember the order of how it first went down..

Tison06 was first to bring the "Chad" letter and pics here to UFOCasebook from c2c..right? I mean he was just an online observer who broke the news here right?

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« Reply #40 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 3:05pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 2:49pm, AgentM wrote:
Question ATO,

Duh..I cannot remember the order of how it first went down..

Tison06 was first to bring the "Chad" letter and pics here to UFOCasebook from c2c..right? I mean he was just an online observer who broke the news here right?



Yep, that's all it was.
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« Reply #41 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 3:26pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 1:25pm, Latitude wrote:
Marvin,

When examine KK and LL I draw a much different conclusion. It looks to me that Ty took KK and then moved to his left a few steps and panned right slightly to compensate for shot LL. The trees on the right look to me to be about 100 feet away and the drone about 150 feet.


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If you center on the drone and move between KK and LL, the spikes on the big ring always point to the same location on the background trees. So I agree that Ty is moving a little back and to the left in LL (from KK). But to explain all of the effects, caused by centering on the foreground trees or the drone or the background trees, the drone can not be behind the background trees. It has to be in between the trees on the left and background trees, or these trees would move in the same direction when we center on the drone (they move opposite directions in the above example, so the drone is between them). Since the angle of the leading “wing” and the two rings change some much between KK and LL, the drone should be closer to the front trees than the back trees.

If the drone was so far away (150 feet or 50 yards), one should not see these changes of view or angle on the drone, for the relatively small distance Ty moved between KK and LL.
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« Reply #42 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 3:37pm »

Looks like the drone came closer to him and he moved left and backed off like he was frightened!
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« Reply #43 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 3:47pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 1:30pm, Latitude wrote:
There is a similar sighting on Mufon right now from Ohio, USA.


http://www.mufoncms.com/files/7777_submitter_file1__notsurewhatthisis.jpg


I am always paying attention to the sightings and there is a vast number for the month of August as usual. This is due to the month. We would like to think that there is some sort of special activity going on but August is the peak month for sightings each and every year.

Actually, all of the summer months are greater then the rest of the year but August is where it peaks. More people are outside and even outside longer due to more sunlight.

The following represents the averages for each month (151 months from January 1995 through July 2007) at NUFORC. As you can see, August has always been the highest.

I think NUFORC's sightings are going to exceed August's 312 in the past though due to the more recent activity.

Remember that what you see below are each month's average. The total number of sightings were 37,305 all from NUFORC.

http://www.uforc.com/news021105/nesbittplac7_021105.html

January
204
February
189
March
223
April
202
May
205
June
259
July
310
August
312
September
295
October
283
November
280
December
215



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« Reply #44 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 4:35pm »

Hello to everyone on this forum. I have been following this topic about the drones for several weeks now and have read and studied everything that has been discussed here. I just want to say that everyone here has done a great job researching this topic. I just wanted to add my belief to what has happened here. After reviewing all of the information and photographs I firmly believe this to be true and very real. It is a shame that we have people out there who are not searching for the truth or are so closed minded that they are not willing to really study and seek out what is right. I know for a fact that UFO's are real. In 1969 I saw a ufo one bright moonlight night that passed right by me and my friend. It was so close we could have hit it with a rock. It was as large as a jumbo jet and flew right by us about 100 ft off of the ground. It was cigar shaped and appeared to be gray metal. It had what appeared to be windows that were round down the side of it. It did not make a sound. I dont know were these things come from or why they are here but I know for a fact that they are real. When you find this out for yourself it changes you. Issac made the statement that it was kind of like a kid finding out that his parents are getting a divorce. I just wish that before I die I could find out where these things come from and what their purpose is. I am sorry for rambling here. I just wanted to add my testimony that ufo's are real. I know it and nobody can ever take that from me. Yall keep up the good work and I will continue to follow your progress.
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