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« Reply #300 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 5:37pm »

Yeah, why would a hoaxer add something that doesn't have a noticeable function. They wouldn't (additional hooks).

Nice crisp photo Latitude.

I still believe it's something very archaic for the aliens. Because if it does belong to them, they sure as heck wouldn't want us to have their current technology. Instead, if they planned on monitoring anything down here, they would have used their old stuff. Consequently, it's something a lot closer to our own technology - excluding the anti-grav of course.
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« Reply #301 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 5:40pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 5:33pm, Latitude wrote:
A closer look at the Hi res BB drone.

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from the weigh suspened from the center , there would be evident of the padles swaying up or down? what do you think? huh
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« Reply #302 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 5:45pm »



What's the bright white piece protruding upwards
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« Reply #303 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 6:03pm »

as for the drones being a hoaxs by way of the photos that can be proved mybe with or without the hoaxsters. yet the drone that I had the dream of was of ET tech thats one no one can change in my mind alone with the visions on the 16 and 20 of august. the drones stands and isaacs documents (the photos,hoaxs or real). thats my natural response as long as I am around, wish ET would come around more often than they do they will be back they have shown me far more to be truth. that you can take to the bank, yet you dont have to. grin
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« Reply #304 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 6:08pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 5:45pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
What's the bright white piece protruding upwards
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I believe it is only a reflection of the sun.
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« Reply #305 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 6:18pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 5:37pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Yeah, why would a hoaxer add something that doesn't have a noticeable function. They wouldn't (additional hooks).


I think the hooks go all the way around the thing. It evidently is highly configurable. You take the basic central assembly and attach whatever you need to do the specific tasks. I'd say it's a common trait of all the drones.
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« Reply #306 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 6:38pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 6:18pm, Latitude wrote:
I think the hooks go all the way around the thing. It evidently is highly configurable. You take the basic central assembly and attach whatever you need to do the specific tasks. I'd say it's a common trait of all the drones.


My point is, if it were CGI, why would they attach parts to their model that don't have an obvious function. See my point.
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« Reply #307 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 7:14pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 6:38pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
My point is, if it were CGI, why would they attach parts to their model that don't have an obvious function. See my point.


Yes it's a good point. To be honest and way too obvious, a hoaxer would never have designed objects as weird and way out there as these in the first place. The design only makes people go "No way".
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« Reply #308 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 8:53pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 12:25pm, Latitude wrote:
Good job, LangLee. Yes the Ty photos are not very good (look how spoiled we are now). Ato has already explain the white background. Steven's pics corroborate the white background. Ty may have used a cheap pocket Instamatic or disposable film camera. Then LMH scanned those 5x7s. So the Hi res is actually a blow up from a small low res picture. Steven's photos are of better quality but the drone is very distant. The Raj and Chad pics are the best for analysis. Did you give your expert the Hi res large size versions of the Raj/Chad?


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« Reply #309 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 11:28pm »

on Sep 7th, 2007, 7:14pm, Latitude wrote:
Yes it's a good point. To be honest and way too obvious, a hoaxer would never have designed objects as weird and way out there as these in the first place. The design only makes people go "No way".


Hey guys, remember when I posted this?

From the 1952 statement:

(4)." A doughnut-shaped craft, about 125 feet outside diameter by about 36 feet thick, with a hole about 25 feet in diameter in the center. They are used only when complicated scientific observation of some nature is required. Due to the large amount of test equipment which they carry they have become known as "flying laboratories". They use an "electro-magnetic drive" and are not likely to be seen by your people except on comparatively rare occasions."

This is a statement made by the alien about one of their craft that they use near this planet. The BB craft I believe is exactly what the statement above is describing.

It is one of four types

[Of course I am aware that some Forum members strongly disagree with my opinion about the statement.]

[ATO...FTR...imo]

PS: Latitude....very clean and clear photo of the main section of the BB drone! Impressive.
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« Reply #310 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 10:28am »

Over the last three or four days I’ve re-read most of the Drone threads and it appears that in this thread (Drone pt5) there is almost nothing but pro-Drone comments, beliefs and theories!! rolleyes Not that there’s anything wrong with this per se, I just don’t feel it’s a true representation of the general consensus of the forum as there are also quite a few people on the fence.

And as nearly all pro-Drone comments are going unchallenged, I’ll attempt to slightly redress the balance (purely to at least give the illusion of fairness and equality. grin)

on Sep 7th, 2007, 6:38pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
My point is, if it were CGI, why would they attach parts to their model that don't have an obvious function.

Reverse psychology perhaps?

What better way to orchestrate a successful hoax than to do things that have never before been seen as firstly there’s no real comparison with anything (other that the Isaac documents/scans/drawings/CGI or whatever they may be) and secondly the more outlandish (or alien for want of a better word) the details are when viewed can surely only be a good thing for the hoaxers? If for no other reason than to prompt people to say,

“Why would they attach parts to their model that don't have an obvious function”

Which leads me to ask which parts do you suggest have an obvious function and what is that function? Purely to use as a frame of reference to discern which parts don’t have this functionality. wink

on Sep 7th, 2007, 7:14pm, Latitude wrote:
Yes it's a good point. To be honest and way too obvious, a hoaxer would never have designed objects as weird and way out there as these in the first place. The design only makes people go "No way".

Isn't that playing straight into the hoaxers hands?
I remember you also wrote:


on Aug 12th, 2007, 5:15pm, Latitude wrote:
But since the drone case, you will never ever hear me utter the phrase "too good to be true". That aurgument is a bogus as they come in my opinion.

Surely there is a slight hypocrisy here? Dismissing something because it’s, “Too good to be true” is equally as, “Bogus” as dismissing something because you think it’s, “Way too obvious?”

It wasn’t that long ago everyone wanted experts involved, and a couple obliged, but if occasionally an expert hints at a scenario that doesn’t appeal, then all of a sudden it’s a case of:

on Sep 5th, 2007, 6:50pm, Latitude wrote:
I'm beginning to think that taking these photos to any experts on CGI and models is the wrong thing to do. These people are so into their fields that they put way too much credence in them. Ask a cgi expert and he'll likely say "heck yes it is CGI". Ask a model expert and he'll tell you it's models.

All these people have their own agendas. It's rare to find a true open mind person in these days of cynicism.

Evidently as rare as it is to get a pro-drone advocate to accept any other viable or plausible possibility of origin. It really does seem as if any fact can be turned to either sides advantage when it’s necessary. For example you (Lat) also said:

“Be very careful when you start getting skeptical about the way in which you believe an alien device should be designed. We have no idea about the limitations of the technology. Is was most evident when the BB drone was accused of being a hoax because it was claimed it could in no way support it's own appendages with the tiny connecting pieces. It was thought by the narrow minded that centrifugal and inertial forces would break the thing apart. Then came the Isaac info which explained that the object used RSR (Rigid Spatial Relationship) that was responsible for it's form and rigidity.
It also was revealed that it was immune to environment and inertia.”


Yet a couple of comments back:

on Sep 7th, 2007, 6:18pm, Latitude wrote:
I think the hooks go all the way around the thing. It evidently is highly configurable. You take the basic central assembly and attach whatever you need to do the specific tasks. I'd say it's a common trait of all the drones.

“Object used RSR (Rigid Spatial Relationship) that was responsible for it's form and rigidity. It also was revealed that it was immune to environment and inertia.”

So obviously why then the need for the very, “Human” method of being highly configurable with the use of hooks? Especially since the RSR can hold them in place without the use of even hinges and brackets.
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« Reply #311 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 10:35am »

Cast your minds back to when we used to have people of all Drone persuasions willing to post comments, bringing up inconsistencies, asking the right questions etc. It seems that gradually they have ceased, I thought perhaps this was as the arguments weren’t valid but upon re-reading most of the threads it seems like they were merely, “Shouted down” rather than actually silenced with facts.

Times sure have changed, what happened to stating what was opinion and what was fact? This grey area was defined, redefined and reiterated on many an occasion, yet this thread in particular doesn’t seem to call for it, or maybes it’s different enforceable rules dependent on your beliefs and view point (or Drone-point. grin)

“To be honest and way too obvious, a hoaxer would never have designed objects as weird and way out there as these in the first place.” & “I get a kick out of looking at the Raj pictures and studying the shadows. There is no way a hoaxer could have got them so perfect.”

Fact or opinion?

The longer the dance of the Drone continues, the more complicated the steps become and the more tempers will become frayed, especially when the already fine lines between reality, fact and opinion are continuously and unintentionally blurred.

I must point out that I have nothing but respect for all of the regulars in the Drone discussion, especially Lat who I have quoted above. As the only reason I used Latitudes posts as examples is because they are the most recent and as he’s one of the most prolific posters here.

Please don’t misconstrue what I am trying to say, it’s nothing to do with specific members or comments but more on the general ambience or vibe of the forum as I feel there has been a definite shift lately.

Surely we don’t want to dwell to long on either end of the Drone spectrum, i.e. real or hoax, but rather explore any and all possibilities and avenues of possibility until a definitive conclusion is reached either way. Or at least until some new information is released that can be further dissected.

I also don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but apart from the experts and others who are, “Invited” into the discussion and the occasional cross-poster from OMF there has been hardly any new members willing to chance a post on the Drone threads, and certainly none have posted consistently. If we ask ourselves, “Why?” I don’t think any of us will like the answer but we all must surely be aware of it.

The simplest answer being of course it mustn’t appear (from the outside looking in) to be a very hospitable place. I know it presents something of a catch22 situation, especially as the, “Hit & Run” hoax posters comments must always be addressed, but also so should any intelligent lines of enquiry, be they for or against the Drones.

Sorry about the rant, I just wanted to tell everyone why after joining and lurking at many UFO forums, I chose to regularly post here. I'd also like to say to everybody to, “Keep up the good work!!” smiley

After all, we are all unified in at least one thing, as ultimately we are all hoping for and working towards the same goal, that of a conclusive and definitive answer, aren't we? wink
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« Reply #312 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 10:56am »

on Sep 8th, 2007, 10:28am, DrDil wrote:
Yet a couple of comments back:


“Object used RSR (Rigid Spatial Relationship) that was responsible for it's form and rigidity. It also was revealed that it was immune to environment and inertia.”

So obviously why then the need for the very, “Human” method of being highly configurable with the use of hooks? Especially since the RSR can hold them in place without the use of even hinges and brackets.


I believe that RSR was only in effect with the A1 generator. I don't see the A1 on any of the craft, though... Maybe the craft have a different type of generator, or maybe a completely different propulsion system altogether?
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« Reply #313 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 10:59am »

very well put drdil i dont think no one could have said that any better. I also said from my dreams this drone enigma will bring about confusion now is not this the case? grin huray for drdil well spoken,scientific observation keep watch please.your the one.
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 10:56am, newtothis wrote:
I believe that RSR was only in effect with the A1 generator. I don't see the A1 on any of the craft, though... Maybe the craft have a different type of generator, or maybe a completely different propulsion system altogether?
you have to remember that we have not determind which is back eginenered or original ET tech, from the pictures.a whole observation in itself. what do you think? huh
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