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« Reply #45 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 4:51pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 11:50am, VonStern wrote:
Recently, the new "Glowing Geese" sightings in the UK and in the Netherlands, has much higher priority here in Europe.

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VonStern -- what do you know about the glowing geese? Where have you heard about it in Europe? Please post your response on the UK Sightings thread for "I SAW HUNDREDS UFOs ESSEX" thread....

I have found about 6 or so other sightings of glowing orange things in V formations or other formations all over the world the last week and have posted them there on that thread as well.
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« Reply #46 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 5:51pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 12:51pm, castles4me wrote:
I think he pivoted slightly to the left to take the second photo. I think the drone is in between the two trees, and is as big as initially thought -- with large ring at least 6' - 9' across if not bigger.


on Aug 29th, 2007, 1:25pm, Latitude wrote:
It looks to me that Ty took KK and then moved to his left a few steps and panned right slightly to compensate for shot LL. The trees on the right look to me to be about 100 feet away and the drone about 150 feet.



People, you know I just had the same conclusion when I analysed the images KK and LL??
It still has to be revised, but explains almost everything, except the perspective issue in both images that modify the angle of the trees and of the drone.

Here is my top view analysis of
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Maybe we reached a conclusion... he did moved to his left and moved the camera to the right to compensate the shot, and this movement changed the tree's and drone's angle that is causing problem when you animate both photos changing points of reference.

PS: If the drone was closer I think his central vertical axis would not change so much in the images from photo KK to LL... IMHO.

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« Reply #47 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 5:55pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 08:58am, castles4me wrote:
yes, that would be good idea. If that guy is always doing hikes in that area, he has possibly seen it before. Some people see things and just don't know where to report it, or don't think to report it.

Oh, and Ark -- I kinda don't like your avatar thing at the bottom of your posts - it looks like a demon I saw once sad


(Sorry double post)

wink Ok I promess you I will change it in the future, but first I need to find some other signature grin
PS: it is some kind of futuristic angel with scars and metal wings smiley

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« Reply #48 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 6:27pm »

Ark,

I hope you do not mind, I have added what I am trying to describe to your excellent diagrams!

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If the drone is far away (on the back side of the background trees) then as Ty moved, all of the trees (the ones on the left and the background) should all move in the same direction as Ty changes positions (when we center on the drone). See above diagram (blue arrows are the movement of trees relative to the camera).

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But if the drone is close to Ty (in between the left trees and the background trees), then as Ty moves, they will move in opposite directions (when we center on the drone). See above diagram (blue arrows are the movement of trees relative to the camera).

This fully explains everything that we see.

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The above is centered on the drone.
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:00pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 4:35pm, firmbeliever wrote:
Hello to everyone on this forum. I have been following this topic about the drones for several weeks now and have read and studied everything that has been discussed here. I just want to say that everyone here has done a great job researching this topic. I just wanted to add my belief to what has happened here. After reviewing all of the information and photographs I firmly believe this to be true and very real. It is a shame that we have people out there who are not searching for the truth or are so closed minded that they are not willing to really study and seek out what is right. I know for a fact that UFO's are real. In 1969 I saw a ufo one bright moonlight night that passed right by me and my friend. It was so close we could have hit it with a rock. It was as large as a jumbo jet and flew right by us about 100 ft off of the ground. It was cigar shaped and appeared to be gray metal. It had what appeared to be windows that were round down the side of it. It did not make a sound. I dont know were these things come from or why they are here but I know for a fact that they are real. When you find this out for yourself it changes you. Issac made the statement that it was kind of like a kid finding out that his parents are getting a divorce. I just wish that before I die I could find out where these things come from and what their purpose is. I am sorry for rambling here. I just wanted to add my testimony that ufo's are real. I know it and nobody can ever take that from me. Yall keep up the good work and I will continue to follow your progress.


There's a couple ( and I mean only a couple) of die hard unbelievers in here too that have read every bit of it also, so we'll never really figure it out other then maybe some of us, me included, are just darn right gullible or the others have a brain malfunction making them not capable of discerning as well as we do. lol Boy, I'm gonna get it. I can hear it now. lol

You are very correct though. There are many missing the boat and we are actually paying a price because of it. Long story.
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« Reply #50 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:03pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 4:51pm, castles4me wrote:
VonStern -- what do you know about the glowing geese? Where have you heard about it in Europe? Please post your response on the UK Sightings thread for "I SAW HUNDREDS UFOs ESSEX" thread....

I have found about 6 or so other sightings of glowing orange things in V formations or other formations all over the world the last week and have posted them there on that thread as well.


That's what I was thinking of. Here is a flock of Ibis and an Ibis is a very, very large bird. But who is to say.

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« Reply #51 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:06pm »

Here's glowing geese. lol

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« Reply #52 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:13pm »

Here are a couple of Ibis at twilight but not very far up. Imagine what they would look like at a higher altitude and notice the configuration of their outline. Not saying this looks like Switzerland but it does resemble Mikey's. See the light coming off of the wing on the one on the left.

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« Reply #53 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:13pm »

HI ATO;I have seen that I saw 100 ufos tread and tried to avoid it not wanting to get stuck.it was to temting not to go. you know the song ,not only found some more truth but got dromatized again. grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #54 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 10:13pm »

Hi People!!
I've made another analysis of what could be the case of Ty's pictures KK and LL...
I don't know if this is a good thing or not, but I concluded that without some math, or camera configs, or Ty's info, will be impossible understand what is in fact the case...
I kept the camera cone angle the same size and in the same position that in Analysis 1 of photo KK
I kept Ty in the same position in LL, but rotated a little bit the camera cone more to the right (with the same size of course)
In KK I defined the orange line as central for one infinite number of drones in infinite distances from Ty, and in the LL I just showed 100% visible the drones in one interval that they would still fit in LL considering an error margin. And with this I concluded that in that little interval I could have infinite possibilities of drone position and size... sad
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That without counting the fact that I can still move the camera and Ty to other positions and define others reference lines, etc... that just gives the problem an infinite perspective...

Here is the analysis2 of KK:
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And analysis2 of LL:
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http://i5.tinypic.com/34fcl8k.jpg

I think the answer is now in the angles of the image from photo KK to LL rolleyes

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« Reply #55 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 11:19pm »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 7:03pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
That's what I was thinking of. Here is a flock of Ibis and an Ibis is a very, very large bird. But who is to say.


I don't really think Switzerland or Mikey's sighting are birds... just that all of the sightings that I found and posted in the other thread from the past week of big formations, people reported that they are orange glowing objects are in V formations -- I really don't think that Netherland/Mikey/Switzerland are birds -- just wondering why everyone describes the UFO formations as if they LOOkED like bird formations. ya know?
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« Reply #56 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 07:10am »

on Aug 29th, 2007, 11:19pm, castles4me wrote:
just wondering why everyone describes the UFO formations as if they LOOkED like bird formations. ya know?


Because they both fly in the same formation and for the same reasons. Maybe they are designed to do so, just like birds. Birds, bees and other creatures navigate with the earth's magnetic field. Aliens probably do too when they fly. I didn't say that I believe it's birds. I said it could be.
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« Reply #57 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 08:19am »

Maybe this is one of the reasons we're not being taken serious:

Scroll down to the bottom of the page:

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/news.html

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« Reply #58 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 09:24am »

on Aug 30th, 2007, 08:19am, VonStern wrote:
Maybe this is one of the reasons we're not being taken serious:

Scroll down to the bottom of the page:

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/news.html

--VonStern


Why am I not surprised that they've listed the drones as fake CGI creations. angry This all stems from MUFONs stance on the subject. Until they reopen the invesitgation, major media outlets will not take this seriously.

Yet, I do find it very interesting that this sighting is listed: 13-Jun-2007: Formation of 6 disks seen and photographed over Pleasanton, California USA.

My favorite quote from the article:
"All fiction obviously, but several sites fell for it and are covering this subject."

I guess they mean us shocked
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« Reply #59 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 09:34am »

Look at what saladfingers created. We can relate to this one. lol

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