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« Reply #465 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:02pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:35pm, MarkM wrote:
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Oh good maybe im safe. wink
Has anyone been able to find what the propusion system these drones are using Mark ? I havent been able to keep up much with this thread. I saw an explanation on Von Stern's site but has that been determined to be the actually technology?
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« Reply #466 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:24pm »

Von Stern cool you are still here the propulsion sytem you have shared with us on your website, has that been determined to be the power source for the drones and your work is excellent by the way.
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« Reply #467 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:26pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:43pm, DrDil wrote:
This is a sound concept Vonstern and I think OTF mentioned earlier that the, “Rusted” parts could be gold or some other similarly conductive substance. While it certainly appears plausible I don’t think it’s the same as what (is implied) the Drones are using. I say this because it flies in the face of nearly everything Isaac said. He specifically said that the anti-gravity device held everything in place with the use of RSR. And although he never said that the inventory photo and the anti-gravity device were directly related he DID say that the thing that caught his eye with the Drones was the fact that it used the executable, “Language”.

This executable language is evident on the anti-gravity device and on the Big Basin drone on the paddle connected to the main ring. The main ring is in turn evident in the Isaac inventory photo which would certainly suggest that Isaac meant that the Drones were powered by the anti-gravity device and this is where the correlation lies and explains why they were both contained in his release of documents. This also explains why he went to the lengths he did to try and clarify the subjects which he did, as much as he did, (i.e. LAP, A1 device etc.)

So if you accept your theory I feel you must also accept that Isaac released fake documents. (And dare I say it, grin this would raise the question of how hard an image of the Drones would be to replicate/reproduce as Isaac obviously managed it with the inventory photo.)

And if you accept Isaac as real then the Drones are held in place by the anti-gravity device (RSR) which also powers the craft, then wouldn’t this directly contradict your theory?


Thanks, DrDil.

On the contrary, the "Antigravity Device" as mentioned in the Caret documents might just be what I was referring to, a "Core" inside the main ring. That would explain the similarity of a "PIG". Once inside a strong "Field", magnetic, if this holds water, it is the conductor of emitted energy provided by the main ring.

I'll get you for this, I'm loosing sleep tonight over this..has to get up in half an hour...and I'm not in bed yet! grin grin grin

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« Reply #468 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:29pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:24pm, Razor wrote:
Von Stern cool you are still here the propulsion sytem you have shared with us on your website, has that been determined to be the power source for the drones and your work is excellent by the way.


I bumped this to get VonStern's attention.
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« Reply #469 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:36pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:29pm, Razor wrote:
I bumped this to get VonStern's attention.


No, it is not prooved, that the propulsion system I referred to are the same, but it's highly likely.

True evidence can only be presented if we are in posession of the artefacts. Which we are not.

But it's an educated guess.

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« Reply #470 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:38pm »

From looking at your work I think it is a pretty good educated guess, great work VonStern congratulations.
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« Reply #471 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:46pm »

VonStern I think Bluespiders anti-Gravity drives are based on practical applications I am not sure if he is aware of the drone theory you may have to brief him on the discussion.
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« Reply #472 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:50pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:46pm, Razor wrote:
VonStern I think Bluespiders anti-Gravity drives are based on practical applications I am not sure if he is aware of the drone theory you may have to brief him on the discussion.


I have done so. He's probably reading my Magazine by now. wink

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« Reply #473 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 9:54pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:43pm, DrDil wrote:
And if you accept Isaac as real then the Drones are held in place by the anti-gravity device (RSR) which also powers the craft, then wouldn’t this directly contradict your theory?


Actually, I don't think Isaac said that the A1, A2 and A3 went to the drones specifically. It mentioned craft. the A2 and the A3 look like they would go on the inside walls of a ROUND craft with the pair of anti-gravity generators in the middle.

The rings on the floor of the hangar, and the linguistics primers were "of the drones" but I don't think it ever said anything about A1, A2 and A3 being part of the drones. The alien symbols on them are the same, yes... same race, same language. Not, necessarily for the same "craft"
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« Reply #474 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 10:00pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:54pm, castles4me wrote:
Actually, I don't think Isaac said that the A1, A2 and A3 went to the drones specifically. It mentioned craft. the A2 and the A3 look like they would go on the inside walls of a ROUND craft with the pair of anti-gravity generators in the middle.

The rings on the floor of the hangar, and the linguistics primers were "of the drones" but I don't think it ever said anything about A1, A2 and A3 being part of the drones. The alien symbols on them are the same, yes... same race, same language. Not, necessarily for the same "craft"


Thats great have fun with it maybe Spider can help also I am pretty sure your work will interest him.

Hey Castles4me thats some pretty good input from you too Thanks
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« Reply #475 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 11:04pm »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:34pm, MarkM wrote:
Kris - I found your post to be well thought out, reflective, and respectful. I believe that you're sincere. I hope that you'll reconsider your membership here.

I may not like what has happened and the way that the dynamic has changed, but I understand the whys a wherefores of it. I'm also smart enough to make up my own mind about things, I don't need anyone to tell me how to interpret things, no matter how strong or brilliant the argument may be.

For the record, while my artists eye can definitely tell the difference between CGI and a "real" photo, I think that your work is excellent. You'll go far in your field and deservedly so.

Again, I appreciate the gracious post and hope that everyone will follow that tone in their future postings.


Very much agreed! SF has done work that proves to me that CGI is out of the question, even though some of the pictures he has produced are very good! And much better than I thought capable of...

And isn't one of the biggest questions: "If it can't be reproduced, then it very well could be real?" All SF tried to do, for whatever reason, is reproduce the original... Isn't that part of the process?

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« Reply #476 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 12:10am »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 11:04pm, newtothis wrote:
Very much agreed! SF has done work that proves to me that CGI is out of the question, even though some of the pictures he has produced are very good! And much better than I thought capable of...

And isn't one of the biggest questions: "If it can't be reproduced, then it very well could be real?" All SF tried to do, for whatever reason, is reproduce the original... Isn't that part of the process?

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So I guess that makes Salad our accidental hero? laugh Ha ha. He set out to make this case a hoax and ended up providing evidence to the contrary. Oh man, that's rich! grin

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« Reply #477 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 02:15am »

on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:54pm, castles4me wrote:
Actually, I don't think Isaac said that the A1, A2 and A3 went to the drones specifically. It mentioned craft. the A2 and the A3 look like they would go on the inside walls of a ROUND craft with the pair of anti-gravity generators in the middle.

The rings on the floor of the hangar, and the linguistics primers were "of the drones" but I don't think it ever said anything about A1, A2 and A3 being part of the drones. The alien symbols on them are the same, yes... same race, same language. Not, necessarily for the same "craft"


I wrote this a couple of paragraphs before as I knew it would be mentioned so I tried to clarify my thought processes as to how I arrived at the conclusion.

And although he never said that the inventory photo and the anti-gravity device were directly related he DID say that the thing that caught his eye with the Drones was the fact that it used the executable, “Language”.

This executable language is evident on the anti-gravity device and on the Big Basin drone on the paddle connected to the main ring. The main ring is in turn evident in the Isaac inventory photo which would certainly suggest that Isaac meant that the Drones were powered by the anti-gravity device and this is where the correlation lies and explains why they were both contained in his release of documents. This also explains why he went to the lengths he did to try and clarify the subjects which he did, as much as he did, (i.e. LAP, A1 device etc.)"


I didn’t want to get into semantics but Isaac said,

“But what interested me most then, and still amazes me most to this day, was something completely unrelated. In fact, it was this technology that immediately jumped out at me when I saw the Chad and Rajman photos, and even moreso in the Big Basin photos.

But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks.”


“MORESO IN THE BIG BASIN PHOTOS”

Isaac explains what he recognized, why he recognized it and how it works. So Isaac has said it was this, “Executable language” that he recognized.

“Same race, same language. Not, necessarily for the same craft” is (I feel) irrelevant. Even if we (humans) made them they are still employing the use of the, “Executable language” which Isaac recognized and so wouldn't that also mean they are inextricably linked to the antigravity device? That was all I was saying.

I drew this conclusion from EXACTLY what Isaac wrote. Not becuase it looks like it’s from a, “Round craft” or could be from a “Different race,” no supposition or conjecture at all, purely from what Isaac wrote. I try to stick with what Isaac wrote as personally I have no idea of how to even begin to ascertain or discern what the shape of the, “Craft” would be like, and similarly I couldn’t begin to even hazard an educated guess as to the, “Alien race” which owns it.

I suppose it’s the same as with every aspect of the Drones, different people see and think different things, purely down to eye of the beholder.

(If Vonstern hadn’t of said, “Feel free to debate the possibilities of this assumption.” I wouldn’t even have commented but he invited the input.)

And sorry for keeping you awake Vonstern!! grin
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« Reply #478 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 08:23am »

on Sep 11th, 2007, 12:10am, Latitude wrote:
So I guess that makes Salad our accidental hero? laugh Ha ha. He set out to make this case a hoax and ended up providing evidence to the contrary. Oh man, that's rich! grin



Exactly!!! Who'da thunk it? Even his best attempt at creating a BB drone still looked cartoonish in comparison to the real deal. -- no offense, good CGI, just not REAL.
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« Reply #479 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 08:26am »

on Sep 11th, 2007, 02:15am, DrDil wrote:
I wrote this a couple of paragraphs before as I knew it would be mentioned so I tried to clarify my thought processes as to how I arrived at the conclusion.

[b][i]And although he never said that the inventory photo and the anti-gravity device were directly related he DID say that the thing that caught his eye with the Drones was the fact that it used the executable, “Language”.



Oh, yeah OK.. you did say that.. so we agree there.

I haven't had time to read VonStern's theory yet, it will be interesting, he is very smart. (and so are you) I just didn't know how you could shoot down his propulsion theory based on anything Isaac said or didn't say. Being that the theory of how they work is based on the executable language that even those scientists in the day couldn't figure out. That's all.
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