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« Reply #1170 on: May 8th, 2008, 6:37pm »

From today’s “Unknowncountry.com” newsletter:

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Linda How This Week: The DRONES are Back!
The drones--supposedly a hoax, supposedly a product of some sort of obscure internet marketing scheme--just WILL NOT go away! This weekend, listen as Linda interviews a new witness about ANOTHER incredible sighting.
They are out there, for sure. But WHAT ARE THEY??


I think it’s fair to assume this is Brent as OVNIS-USA.com wrote yesterday (8th May 2008) that:

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The solutions are not lacking for publicizing the work of the Drone Team: Linda Moulton Howe was captivated by reading the testimony of Brent, the witness of Camas, Washington, and must soon publish its own interview: "It is a very important report, and I am eager to bring it into line to create perhaps other evidence."
(You’ll have to forgive the clunky Google translation).

So yet another witness goes on record, I wonder how many more there are?
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« Reply #1171 on: May 8th, 2008, 7:16pm »

There may be dozens or there may be none. The fact that Brent produced a stylized graphic afterwards raises my suspicions. If you want to show people what you saw....you don't stylize the picture unless you are looking for praise in your efforts (which he got BTW).... what you do is your best to reproduce what you saw, even if it's a pencil drawing. Just my opinion though. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #1172 on: May 8th, 2008, 7:38pm »

on May 8th, 2008, 7:16pm, hjdelight wrote:
There may be dozens or there may be none. The fact that Brent produced a stylized graphic afterwards raises my suspicions. If you want to show people what you saw....you don't stylize the picture unless you are looking for praise in your efforts (which he got BTW).... what you do is your best to reproduce what you saw, even if it's a pencil drawing. Just my opinion though. Any thoughts?

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Hi HJ smiley,

I don’t really want to get into witness non-repudiation or questioning the validity of statements, that’s why I said *on record* as effectively that’s what Earthfiles provides from an outsiders perspective. Probably a better way of phrasing it is that it provides a more mainstream level of recognition from the public who don't spend (what it seems like) every spare minute researching, reading, digesting etc. as much UFO-related information as possible!! grin

However I also don’t want to take anything away from OTF as his work was and always is thorough and as far as witness non-repudiation goes, if he thinks it’s prudent and valid then personally speaking it lends more credence to the account than if LMH had picked it up and ran with it herself, but I do know what you mean…… smiley
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« Reply #1173 on: May 8th, 2008, 9:13pm »

on May 8th, 2008, 7:16pm, hjdelight wrote:
There may be dozens or there may be none. The fact that Brent produced a stylized graphic afterwards raises my suspicions. If you want to show people what you saw....you don't stylize the picture unless you are looking for praise in your efforts (which he got BTW).... what you do is your best to reproduce what you saw, even if it's a pencil drawing. Just my opinion though. Any thoughts?

HJ

I agree whole heartedly, and he held on to that for a year. Then he wants you to take "note" of the lightning he did not see, but was there because he "felt" it.
He reports a clear day but the weather was actually according to Jeddyhi who checked.in another forum, overcast or cloudy. He says 5 other witnesses saw similar, yet the 5 he talks about that day are the 5 no show witnesses in the caret case. And this craft looks nothing like the others save they are round in look more like key chains holder than craft.. He paints in stunning airbrush against night rather then the day, when actually it was late afternoon in summer still bright.when it came out. Despite blazing sirens from police, ambulance, firengines , and cd playing he hears it. But lets allow him the sound.
Like many of the other winesses he uses Freaked out. double did a search on nuforc for the use of that word in witnesses, and out of several thousand reports its used about a couple of dozen times, yet here at least half the witnesses used it at last check.
If it had such a religious effect, did he speak to a minister, or just Tim ,after all, he says he is a God Fearing Christian.

I am awaiting the CRESPA 911 response report from WA on whether the that day had multiple vehicle dispatches at an emergency between 3pm and 8pm .The way he desribed it was like a major accident somewhere.

I would like to say at the same time that while many of us take a nuts and bolts approach as far as perception, there are allso in accord with Valles opinion events that are reall paranaormal, and quite personal, like some ghost sightings.or yes, the famous whitley dreams, and even the famous burning bush of the bible. The experiencer believes what he believes. So we cannot take that away from them.
No mention here is made if Tim was interviwed., or why he was not used if he was a witness also, or I misundersstood that. still many of these sightings can fall into that. who knows why. Perhaps the enormous geological energies released along faults can do that. I don't know. But lights are seen in hotspots like that, due to piezo electric effects in the fault region.
I find it interesting but highly suspect in this case how this has transpired and is being put to fit the original 6 sightings as outlined by Dil. Yet the lad never reported to mufon. nuforc either, but had visited websites enough to be familiar with them, as he had familiarized himself with the LAP Inductor rings.
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« Reply #1174 on: May 8th, 2008, 9:17pm »

Hey Doc!
You're are doing a fine job BTW as Mod here. My point was simply the graphics offered by the witness. I just found it odd that he would go back into the house and make such a representation to offer with his testimony. I would not have done that and almost anyone else IMO would not have. Seems like a flag to me, that's all. Such as someone looking for attention.

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PS: Very good observations TeachersPet! We are all anxious for the next good witness but should never lower our standards for that witness. If he's bogus, it will come out soon.
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« Reply #1175 on: May 8th, 2008, 9:54pm »

We liked Brent's work and we commended him on it. We will say it again. Nice work Brent. We also take his story at face value until it is proved otherwise and depending on who does the proving, we may still take his word. Understand, we are not suggesting that any other poster do so. IMO there is information in his art and story.
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« Reply #1176 on: May 8th, 2008, 10:02pm »

Well that's fine. I merely offered my opinion. BTW do you have a frog in your pocket or are you royalty?

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« Reply #1177 on: May 8th, 2008, 10:18pm »

We refers to a group. I like Brent's work and that is my opinion and he used what he had an airbrush. Now, I (better) and the group (we) like Brent's work and we will feature it on our Blog. My opinion.
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« Reply #1178 on: May 9th, 2008, 6:30pm »

on May 8th, 2008, 9:17pm, hjdelight wrote:
Hey Doc!
You're are doing a fine job BTW as Mod here. My point was simply the graphics offered by the witness. I just found it odd that he would go back into the house and make such a representation to offer with his testimony. I would not have done that and almost anyone else IMO would not have. Seems like a flag to me, that's all. Such as someone looking for attention.

HJ

PS: Very good observations TeachersPet! We are all anxious for the next good witness but should never lower our standards for that witness. If he's bogus, it will come out soon.


Hi HJ smiley,

I agree with you and most of the points Teachers Pet mentioned (wink), I also have a few doubts that haven’t been raised.

I would be a great deal more inclined to voice these concerns if this was a witness who had actual images, but as it stands I don’t see anything of a massive significance in the witness account, whether it be genuine or not.

I still maintain that if anything definitive is ever going to be discovered and universally accepted as fact, then it must have direct links to at least one the original witnesses or their respective images/accounts, and/or the Isaac documentation, or even the principals discussed within it. I.e. rather than witness recollection of events which range from thirty years to 11 months ago. There’s hardly anything that resembles a Drone being reported before May 2007, there’s a couple that have similarities but not one where you could say:

“Yeah, that’s DEFINITELY a Drone they seen.”

Yet within a year there’s now somewhere in the region of thirty independent witnesses, all of whom appeared after the first sighting at the beginning of May 2007. Personally speaking (and of course from a sceptical viewpoint) it just requires a leap of faith that I struggle to make, it doesn’t mean I’m right but I do feel I’m somewhat justified when considering the evidence to date. smiley
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« Reply #1179 on: May 9th, 2008, 6:46pm »



You are indeed justified.

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« Reply #1180 on: May 9th, 2008, 7:50pm »

In the history of the UFO Phenomena, when has it ever proved itself! For those who wish nuts and bolts, it will never happen unless it is a government setup. The Drones are an established myth, if you prefer, and as other elements of this phenomena, they are now taking on a life of their own. Science will never accept the UFO phenomena and if disclosure ever comes it will not be associated with this phenomena. It will be called an unrelated extension of the probability of other life in the Universe. The day a Drone lands or crashes and the local news has a camera crew there will be the day of the real hoax.
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« Reply #1181 on: May 10th, 2008, 3:06pm »

I'm not sure about the Brent drone sighting. Two things bother me.

1. The dark glasses that Brent is wearing. Hmmmm?

2. The airbrush drawings are just too convenient.

Just my opinion...obviously.

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« Reply #1182 on: May 10th, 2008, 3:17pm »

Phone static....blank caller ids....MIBS....please.

Next he will claim to be warned off by them, thus validating all the other witnesses reluctance.

All my opinion, no facts....whole story just sounds contrived to me.

Let the cruxifiction of my opinion begin wink
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« Reply #1183 on: May 10th, 2008, 5:21pm »

Mothman waits just outside of the field of view. The Mothman Myth (?) can be considered the clearest of views on this phenomena (IOO).
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« Reply #1184 on: May 11th, 2008, 1:09pm »

Announcing the Drone Research Team website:

http://droneteam.com/

The DRT has the following goals:

  • To solve the drone mystery; what is it, what is its genesis and what does it mean?
  • To study this scientifically, to research it exhaustively.
  • To find the original witnesses, protect them and verify them.
  • To find new witnesses of the Drones or CARET, to protect their interests and verify their facts.


This website has the following goals:

  • To provide a repository and chronicle of the California Drones UFO phenomenon.
  • To provide reports of our investigation.
  • To allow a place for witnesses to feel comfortable in coming forward and provide more clues to the case.

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