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« Reply #1335 on: Sep 5th, 2008, 5:48pm »

A little Drone.
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« Reply #1336 on: Sep 6th, 2008, 04:08am »

shockedyou too..!!?
..jeez, they get around, don't they!


(enough of my disrespectful shenanigans... for now)
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« Reply #1337 on: Sep 6th, 2008, 11:42am »

You don't have to run away and hide I am used to the responses of normal run-of-the-mill human beings. Especially those with nothing to say. The Drones are more existent and important than you and it makes you mad.
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« Reply #1338 on: Sep 6th, 2008, 7:47pm »

really..??

wow. i was unaware.
will go calm down

thankyou!!
thankyou so much!!
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« Reply #1339 on: Sep 6th, 2008, 9:21pm »

on Sep 6th, 2008, 11:42am, Truether wrote:
You don't have to run away and hide I am used to the responses of normal run-of-the-mill human beings. Especially those with nothing to say. The Drones are more existent and important than you and it makes you mad.
theonebehindthedoor


Be dishonest here now! The Lie is they did not like That Iranian Restaurant, which advertised its self as a vegan restaurant now on Santa Cruz hwy. We know how touchy the tofu crazy Vegans are.
Not only that..At least we know from Tys description , or was it Stephs, of that LOooooong pokey thing , which answers its purpose,, and that sex takes place in other dimensions, and maybe heaven too!
Thats great news Lev!

But we know whats behind this:
It was the Power!

Now for a quickie Recap for our new comers to UFOcasebook
as seen thru the eyes of Sys_Config, that horrible man.
Dr.Dil. Feel free to correct.
Lets recap what we have here before we get lost in Minutae
1 Manipulated pictures, verified by ATS and OMF analysts Moonking, Marvin, SQt , and MUFON and Experts, Biedny Fxmodels, Rwiggins, 11 11,Kris Avery, Torvald , Wayne et al.
2 Absentee witnesses for all May June 2007 sightings
3 False locations by all witnesses ,from where events actually took place, circa Deer Creek restaurant. los Gatos CA, next to San Jose.
4 Private Investigators who live within minutes of the events, in San Jose CA, less than 20 minutes from the aforesaid Restaurant
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5 Drt member Numbers, who lives in same area , 10 minutes away from PIs, with identical "rare lamp post" in front of his house.and fail to disclose that, and the Restaurant location and has also failed to respond why the withholding of info and providing inaccurate info that area was dangerous and not good to walk thru. Aireal shows area nice and clear.
6 11A, who accompanied Drt investigator, and was aware of same. With the former DRT investigator Numbers,expressing months ago, reported by myself here he would have a problem divulging the truth, if he came upon it. Both keep silent now.
7 The Cam location (Pinocchio Drone)added afterwards, by the PIs, less than 5-6 minutes from Restaurant in Scotts valley. Cams Boyfriend wrote emailed that Cam was faking it. Never followed up and Public never shown email by DRT.. Report put as real.Sounds far away, but it wasn't. and never disclosed he saw or knew of restaurant.
7.5 Brent a prior drone witness airbrushes one exactly like a game figure ring. aka striker pic., courtesy of Rwiggins,before any drones appeared, and offers his own sons new sighting of an armada of drones. One ten feet over his head. Never came back.
8 They had to pass Restaurant on the way to Cam and to Capitola
9. Capitola Raj Drone took place the day of a concert. Nobody saw it. Chad took place in Los Gatos, not Lake Tahoe. And BB drone not in BB, but also minutes from Restaurant at BB way. Stephan shots taken at dangerous 200ft drop ridge, unsuitable for bikers, but claimed as such by Stephan.
10. The Capitola pix show a lamp not found in Capitola, but in San Jose. Even Numbers has one. Pole not in Capitola either.
11. The Pis Admit, searching all sightings locations, no pole no lamp.
No search done in San Jose.
12The leads to find Restaurant were given by Mars Ave to LMH who has witness addresses, but she never talked to them.
13, Rajinders Satayana /Rajman found by SQT at classmates.com, and traced to location by ES at Elan village, San Jose and then given to DRT, and also less than 15 minutes from Numbers, of the DRT. DRT did Jack, but promise to put flyers out last month, but are still designing a flyer, as alien letters may confuse people.
13.5 They are looking for female reporter when Stephan claimed he rode with Male reporter who did not like being silenced.
14.LMH knows where the witnesses live and real locations , so she said. So she knows everybody in San Jose, and says nothing ., but appeals for more drone reports on radio.
15. She has fotos but will not surrender same, as she is very attached and fond of them. They are now family.
16.She ignored MarsAve, never answered. Continued to push drones. Along with Whitley Strieber.
17.She did not disclose Rev Bob, another "earlier drone witness," was an avid ufo buff since the 40's believes he was there at time of Creation. yes the Creation.
18. Witness to Real Location, Mars Ave is known personally to PIs.
19. Witness Mars ave, who knew locations forty years, reported were false and helped PIs find REAL locations suddenly goes quiet publicly and in forums.
20. we get our location, the restaurant, independently, after DRT refused to provide same and we then connected witness reports and the PIs and DRT members named above all together..
21 Over a year has gone by, The only progress by PIs was by MarsAve, who calls it hoax, and show correct locations, and the information we provided by expose on the Restaurant site, and Numbers.
22 The Pis have provided only new questionable witnesses with bogus drones.such as Brent and Cam.
23. The michigan drone was found hoax, after hoaxerwalter wrote in, and DRT showed that email, but not Cam email stating hoax.

Observations: Other thoughts.
If Warner brothers hatched this scheme for its movie it did a great Job.
I never saw a hoax that helped out its victims like LMH , Whitley, and The
DRT, more than this one. Whitley was smart to sign his contract during the month of June for TY and Steph sightings..and then have a pdf report done , and had Reyes make study group with at least one current DRT member. Then No real study done..it vaporizes. I believe that. But somehow, PDF Draft is prepared anyway.and Linda has her interviews all lined up.with Reyes, a devout fan of Whitley., and even the Answers from Isaac too! a day after , the 27th of June after she released Isaac the 26th...amazing. She cancels Reyes, And when things not going well..Whitley dreams one up for everyone.
Too much Pizza that night perhaps.
Recently, He gave everyone a second chance, maybe one will come.

Conclusion:
I believe I have enough to conclude for the 100th time, not only hoax, but an apparent conspiracy by the above to maintain it for pecuniary and other ulterior motives, notwithstanding it is a hoax, to the extreme ,they can even be perceived as the Hoaxers Themselves for using the full weight of their organizations to push this matter, as an organized hoaxer would. And although Control by Linda is disavowed by DRT every drone witness has gone thru Linda. They have had extensive cooperation in coordinating witnesses, as well as Global communications, between The U.S., Canada, France, and Britain, from which decisions were made collectively to promote these non events. But Linda, The tail, appears to be wagging the dog it seems.


But our focus is the immediate anomaly of proximity by the players designated as investigators.

This Takedown is still in progress.
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« Reply #1340 on: Sep 6th, 2008, 9:57pm »

LEV YOU WILL LOVE THIS



It seems not only are we being invaded by props from parallel dimensions, and star trek movies and Whitleys exhaust Portal...
But Dracula has intervened into our reality! Not content to stay six feet under with a stake in his heart, he has by virtue of alien letters written on his coffin come back to challenge the ETS...in court. Not only that he is immune to sunlight and an OilCompany behind him!

You all remember the Gary Lowrey story, where the famous whistle blower, fire Inspector, from Bakersfield, Ca was sued after telling on a Oil companies evil doings, that resulted in serious injuries in a gas explosion. Gary was a safety inspector, a good one, and a darn honest one too. The company was sued by state and had to pay lots of money. Of course the Oil company went after Gary and lost.

Gary had a problem though, he is witness to ET visitations, and his family as I understood.
Because of this in a new case against the Oil company, his credibility is challenged by the Company Vampire, Bela Lugosi, Dracula's son with a vengeance.


Here's their most important witness, and the D.A. is buying into it, saying that none of this affects his credibility," said Bela G. Lugosi, an attorney for Greka and son of the actor best known for playing Count Dracula. "We're very surprised." His co-counsel, Santa Monica attorney Jeffrey Valle, agreed. "Yes, there are people who believe in aliens," Valle said, "but we're talking about the Santa Barbara district attorney's office here!

http://cruelkev3.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
http://www.valleassociates.com/downloads/visited_by_aliens.pdf oil law suit.
http://mydarkpassage.blogspot.com/

I would like to say, I am impressed with Garey, more than I am with any of the players I have encountered in this story. He is no profiteer, and turned down big money and deals, including c2c exposure. He knew he would be laughed at.
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« Reply #1341 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm »

Addendum to TeachersPet's analysis:

The Drones, a Successful Fishing Expedition

Fishing expedition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_expedition)
The metaphor likens this to a fishing trip where, if one casts a wide enough net, they are bound to score something, regardless of whether the information is significant or not (like trawling up an old boot from the river). "

The FACTS:

1. In 2007, during a very short period of time, an anomalous event occurred – popularly defined as the “Drone Sightings/Isaacs Account”

2. A completely unprecedented and utterly unique set of graphic images was primary to the event, including purported photographic images, and highly detailed descriptions and renderings of new, unique unknown machinery and graphical representations of heretofore unimagined engineering art (The PARC Documents).

3. Shortly after the upload of the purportedly illegally removed data (The PARC Documents), all contact with the holder of that data (Isaac) ceased.

4. Following the release of the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data, many unrelated entities started using and making profit from the use of the graphical data (tee shirts, coffee mugs, even Alienware computer casings). To date of this writing, no suit has been brought to bear against these unrelated entities who are making profit from the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data.

5. As a professional designer in a Federally Regulated industry, I can testify that the Issac/Caret documents are laid out, designed as it were, in the exact fashion that any Federally culpable employee would lay out any report culpable to federal regulators.

6. As a professional designer, I can testify that the Issac/CARET documents are, as a unit, a near-unparalleled achievement in graphic design – worth hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of professional billable hours.

7. Isaac’s presence on the web and in the media ceased shortly after his communications with Linda Moulton Howe, and his voice has continued to be ceased.

CONCLUSIONS OF MINE

Isaac was real. He did remove documents from a Federally controlled facility. The absence of the documents was discovered during an audit, years later, and a plan was enacted to assure the return of those documents.

Rather than ransack the former employees of PARC (possibly causing a panic among that group that would have been potentially disastrous), the Feds went on a “fishing expedition” to get the data back.

The form of this “fishing expedition” was the release of photos (real or manufactured IS IRRELEVANT) into the public forum. Once witnessed, the guilty party (Isaac) would be “lured” into a confession via publication.

Isaac took the bait, posting the PARC documents, along with lengthy commentary to the free hosting website Fortunecity.com. The PARC upload to Fortunecity.com was most certainly done from a public computer, and untraceable.

The second Isaac contacted LMH via email, he was done for.

Unfortunately, I believe Isaac is dead, and the documents he removed have been returned for audit at the facility where the rest of the PARC documentation is being held.

This observer has no respectable reason to doubt the PARC documents, or the commentary that went along with them.

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There has been much ado about the photos. Part of that is human nature; part of it is a misdirection tactic to take attention away from items 2-6 above.

Your humble author has posted these points many times in many places, and they are always either ignored, or twisted to get back to the photos. To date, no decent explanation regarding the use of the graphical data has been brought forth. To date, no copyright claim on the graphical data has been made.

Third parties continue to make money off the use of the graphical data in the PARC documents.

In the world we live in today, that fact alone should make a concrete argument for the reality of the Isaac testimony.
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« Reply #1342 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 3:23pm »

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
Addendum to TeachersPet's analysis:

The Drones, a Successful Fishing Expedition

What did they catch apart from the imagination?

The FACTS:

1. In 2007, during a very short period of time, an anomalous event occurred – popularly defined as the “Drone Sightings/Isaacs Account”

2. A completely unprecedented and utterly unique set of graphic images was primary to the event, including purported photographic images, and highly detailed descriptions and renderings of new, unique unknown machinery and graphical representations of heretofore unimagined engineering art (The PARC Documents).

What is PARC?
Do you mean Xerox PARC?
Wasn’t this just the model that Isaac claims the subsequent department was *based* on?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
3. Shortly after the upload of the purportedly illegally removed data (The PARC Documents), all contact with the holder of that data (Isaac) ceased.

What proof do you have Isaac existed or that communication did in fact occur other than the initial posting of the documentation?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
4. Following the release of the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data, many unrelated entities started using and making profit from the use of the graphical data (tee shirts, coffee mugs, even Alienware computer casings). To date of this writing, no suit has been brought to bear against these unrelated entities who are making profit from the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data.

Yes, possibly because you can’t claim copyright without revealing your identity and could it be claimed at all when you state you’re anonymous and you don’t mind the content being reproduced?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
5. As a professional designer in a Federally Regulated industry, I can testify that the Issac/Caret documents are laid out, designed as it were, in the exact fashion that any Federally culpable employee would lay out any report culpable to federal regulators.

That’s VERY strange as Isaac stated and reiterated that:

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CARET shined in the way it let us work the way we were used to working. They wanted to recreate as much of the environment we were used to as they could without compromising issues like security. That meant we got free reign to set up our own workflow, internal management structure, style manuals, documentation, and the like.

So what exactly are you saying?

Are you saying that when allowed free reign to produce this documentation that they independently decided to lay it out in a style that is, “culpable to federal regulators”?

How many documents have you read that are based on reverse engineering recovered alien technology?

Is it ‘Federal’ procedure that when documents/reports of THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE SECRET CLASSIFICATION are archived for external use that they require NO classification stamp?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
6. As a professional designer, I can testify that the Issac/CARET documents are, as a unit, a near-unparalleled achievement in graphic design – worth hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of professional billable hours.

And all the other, “Professional designers” who differ in opinion?
Surely you can’t all be right?
Matter of opinion rather than FACT perhaps?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
7. Isaac’s presence on the web and in the media ceased shortly after his communications with Linda Moulton Howe, and his voice has continued to be ceased.

Again, what proof do you have he actually existed, i.e. rather than an anonymous entity with highly questionable documents?

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
CONCLUSIONS OF MINE

Isaac was real. He did remove documents from a Federally controlled facility. The absence of the documents was discovered during an audit, years later, and a plan was enacted to assure the return of those documents.

Rather than ransack the former employees of PARC (possibly causing a panic among that group that would have been potentially disastrous), the Feds went on a “fishing expedition” to get the data back.

The form of this “fishing expedition” was the release of photos (real or manufactured IS IRRELEVANT) into the public forum. Once witnessed, the guilty party (Isaac) would be “lured” into a confession via publication.

Isaac took the bait, posting the PARC documents, along with lengthy commentary to the free hosting website Fortunecity.com. The PARC upload to Fortunecity.com was most certainly done from a public computer, and untraceable.


on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
The second Isaac contacted LMH via email, he was done for.

He never contacted LMH but *allegedly* replied to her emails after being supplied his contact details by C2C AM.

on Sep 9th, 2008, 1:51pm, Kenray wrote:
Unfortunately, I believe Isaac is dead, and the documents he removed have been returned for audit at the facility where the rest of the PARC documentation is being held.

This observer has no respectable reason to doubt the PARC documents, or the commentary that went along with them.

NOTE

There has been much ado about the photos. Part of that is human nature; part of it is a misdirection tactic to take attention away from items 2-6 above.

Your humble author has posted these points many times in many places, and they are always either ignored, or twisted to get back to the photos. To date, no decent explanation regarding the use of the graphical data has been brought forth. To date, no copyright claim on the graphical data has been made.

Third parties continue to make money off the use of the graphical data in the PARC documents.

In the world we live in today, that fact alone should make a concrete argument for the reality of the Isaac testimony.

What?

An opportunistic PC manufacturer sticks a couple of Isaac’s glyphs on their PC’s and this is a concrete argument to the reality of the Isaac testimony?

Please elaborate….

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« Reply #1343 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 5:42pm »

Hi Kenray,

Interesting theory. It is definately a new take on the drone saga. I commend you on your ability to think outside the box.
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on Sep 6th, 2008, 9:21pm, TeachersPet wrote:
5 Drt member Numbers, who lives in same area , 10 minutes away from PIs, with identical "rare lamp post" in front of his house.and fail to disclose that,


Teachers Pet (Sys_Config and also Enlightenedseeker on OMF),

You are so out in left field with your accusations that I should not even be responding to this insanity. I am asking you to drop this obsession of yours. What you have engaged in is some kind of sick cyber stalking of me. You can't find your supposed hoaxer so you set out to attack me in every post instead? What is it about me that you find so dangerous to you? So you don't agree with my ideas about the drones, so what? You can't live with that? Do you lay awake nights trying to figure out a way to get at me and my family?

If you do not cease this activity I will be submitting formal complaints to each an every forum you post about me on. Drop it
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« Reply #1345 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 6:30pm »

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There has been much ado about the photos. Part of that is human nature; part of it is a misdirection tactic to take attention away from items 2-6 above.

Your humble author has posted these points many times in many places, and they are always either ignored, or twisted to get back to the photos. To date, no decent explanation regarding the use of the graphical data has been brought forth. To date, no copyright claim on the graphical data has been made.

Third parties continue to make money off the use of the graphical data in the PARC documents.

In the world we live in today, that fact alone should make a concrete argument for the reality of the Isaac testimony.


Your are correct in all you say, so the DEBUNKERS will always attack you. The Drone/Isaac event is a real event. Are the Drones nut and bolt, I doubt it, they are beyond nut and bolt. Also, they continue to do their job in complete disregard of the Debunkers.
L E V I A T H A N.
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on Sep 9th, 2008, 5:55pm, Latitude wrote:
Teachers Pet (Sys_Config and also Enlightenedseeker on OMF),

You are so out in left field with your accusations that I should not even be responding to this insanity. I am asking you to drop this obsession of yours. What you have engaged in is some kind of sick cyber stalking of me. You can't find your supposed hoaxer so you set out to attack me in every post instead? What is it about me that you find so dangerous to you? So you don't agree with my ideas about the drones, so what? You can't live with that? Do you lay awake nights trying to figure out a way to get at me and my family?

If you do not cease this activity I will be submitting formal complaints to each an every forum you post about me on. Drop it


I think you are getting a little delusional about me coming personally after you and your family.
You and a handful of forums know well, we are looking for hoaxters. Many statements, like recently you witholding of information on the chad location, and not responding to even jakes questions, put you in the firing line for closer scrutinity.
Especially as in past, you said you would be hesitant about hurting friends feelings if you discovered a fact contrary to what they believed. You said I quoted you out of context. But here we are, and you did precisely that, as many , not just I expected.

You were the one who said at OM you invited Rajman. Raj.You were the one complaining about not enough coverage iin media, and expecting more to pop , and calling ATSer and debunkers, anyone actually, who did not agree, debunker. What were you protecting so hard.? Could it be your creation, fighting like a mother hen for its little chicks.?

As far back as May 2007, you yourself stated in this forum in fact, that in all likey hood the centrtral are would be where they are currently within 30 minutes of you. You stated you had a couple of friends who could help you narrow the search. Where are they?, or are those your two friends. Family?, Helped handle Divorce matter you brung out, not I? In different places?


The address given of rochell was deliberate to protect YOU as I know you are not there but at farther locations, but left it,as it demonstrated the lamp YOU tried so hard to look for, was in fact in San Jose with the PIs. The Lamp was the critical thing, and the PIs proximity. PIs YOU helped select, As Tomi says WE not I select, and YOU are closest and most protected by Tomi, and well she has even when you did not deserve it. Those that are closest work the closest, so how did you nor the PIs who studied the poles, NOT notice the thousands of lamps in San Jose.?. That was the crux of the post.

To date none of DRT has looked in San Jose, for pole nore tree, despite what you already know how close restaurant was to San Jose, and especially Scotts Valley. Not a mention of either by name. Until I bring it up.
The same way You avoided stating answers misleading to all of us.

Another poster here at casebook claims you told him in PM about shirley, while you are supposed to be protecting witnesses and maintain silence in all such matters. Where is your discretion yet call me indicreet.

You tell another forum member that Your father had tragedy at Area51 . You swore him to secrecy, but you turned him against you instead, as even now you do many others. But in my book, that would be a motive for pushing this as disclosure, to find out what happened to your father. If true, then I am sorry about your father, if untrue to what you said to that person, , then that makes you the sick person , not I.

And you yourself have stated previously, this was about disclosure..forget real or hoax, you would say over and over, thats not important thing you said. To us, it was. Neither side wants to go on blind faith as you or one of the hoaxters would want. Therefore, your statement in the beginning, your conduct , your less than truthfulness, at every step, made you a target for scrutiny, not a mere unfounded or capricious whim on my part.
You do what you want to do. You always have. But you remain a suspect and a link untiL I and other members say you do, based on what I have have so far. And if I see you do not fit, then good.bye bye. I've done it in the past, because thats how its done. Otherwise I continue as I do to get to the bottom of this because there is more to be found out. Maybe if Tom Vance steps foward, and tells what happened, everything will end as it was supposed to months ago. Then we all catch up on lost sleep.

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« Reply #1347 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 9:23pm »

on Sep 9th, 2008, 5:42pm, Latitude wrote:
Hi Kenray,

Interesting theory. It is definately a new take on the drone saga. I commend you on your ability to think outside the box.



Any story that promotes a drone is a good story eh?
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« Reply #1348 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 10:36pm »

quote author=Kenray link=board=drone&num=1191662183&start=1341#89 date=1220986263]Addendum to TeachersPet's analysis:

The Drones, a Successful Fishing Expedition

Fishing expedition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_expedition)
The metaphor likens this to a fishing trip where, if one casts a wide enough net, they are bound to score something, regardless of whether the information is significant or not (like trawling up an old boot from the river). "
It had some nice moments true..I will give him that..and some nice side effects, like video, and most all..conversation.


FACTS:
Or Bull $$$?
1. In 2007, during a very short period of time, an anomalous event occurred – popularly defined as the “Drone Sightings/Isaacs Account”
4 months of Launch and run culminating in Isacc is not a short period of time

2. A completely unprecedented and utterly unique set of graphic images was primary to the event, including purported photographic images, and highly detailed descriptions and renderings of new, unique unknown machinery and graphical representations of heretofore unimagined engineering art (The PARC Documents).
Untrue pix have been use since the late ninteenth century in hoaxes. Visit museum of hoaxes, visit ripleys.Check out spf33,at getoffthisplanet.com, or okudas art, boingo boingo, fringe art, posthuman blues, the skins factory, steampunk, you see it all the time. Speaking of skin GUIS they use it for that too, like Another Kenray does at teknidermis and deviant art..
3. Shortly after the upload of the purportedly illegally removed data (The PARC Documents), all contact with the holder of that data (Isaac) ceased. He said he would, depending on how things went, especially with the IRS., perhaps they have a hidden antigrav proj. he kept his word.

4. Following the release of the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data, many unrelated entities started using and making profit from the use of the graphical data (tee shirts, coffee mugs, even Alienware computer casings). To date of this writing, no suit has been brought to bear against these unrelated entities who are making profit from the aforementioned, purportedly illegally removed graphical data.

To date the only one making profit is alienware, whos own breed project Yusney garay has all but said they are his design, claiming to have been influenced by several avante gauard artis and filmakers.
T shirt profits are dismal ..


5. As a professional designer in a Federally Regulated industry, I can testify that the Issac/Caret documents are laid out, designed as it were, in the exact fashion that any Federally culpable employee would lay out any report culpable to federal regulators.
I hope its not the SEC or homeland security, or we are in trouble.It was as he said, only what was ok for public consumption, he claimed not to have marked ithru. no numbering,,all archived docs are tagged. you know that. Read DRTs X report..see the security there. Is Drt lying?no docu numbers therefore not really archived. he lied. clear and simple.What Hi security level company gov or priv do you work fore that would be so slack not to.

6. As a professional designer, I can testify that the Issac/CARET documents are, as a unit, a near-unparalleled achievement in graphic design – worth hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of professional billable hours.
Maybe thats how you or lawyers bill your clients,but as a unit, Ican be marked thru official looking documents for next to nothing. Ask the Mexicans If you can give me an itemized cost estimate I would like to see an example. Just the vector brushes art brushes are available at Deviant art. by ~Ihea and others..far more exotic than that..

7. Isaac’s presence on the web and in the media ceased shortly after his communications with Linda Moulton Howe, and his voice has continued to be ceased.
Communications ceased when Arthur the mystical engineer from Arlington texas and devotee of Whitley striber got cold feet. A hoax like this would have knocked any chance of tenure at the University. Dumb for joining, and super smart for bailing out The plan fell apart, as mufon, Dieny and others looked at the pix and said fake. The tests done at OMG verified that. I would shut upp too, and to date not even Linda will claim she spoke to him, though whitley and an DRT spokesperson alluded to it.

CONCLUSIONS OF MINE

Isaac was real. He did remove documents from a Federally controlled facility. The absence of the documents was discovered during an audit, years later, and a plan was enacted to assure the return of those documents.
Yes hoaxers are real people, no doubt, audits are done constantly, any document I have worked on in gov, was traceable back to me by assignment. An Audit years later, is disingenuous..Think about it. The gov even at that time, routinely polygraphed, they could also call you up, and by your voice and a few questions flag you as a hit. Did you know that? No disruption necessary, or convoluted plans that would expose them more.

Rather than ransack the former employees of PARC (possibly causing a panic among that group that would have been potentially disastrous), the Feds went on a “fishing expedition” to get the data back.

The form of this “fishing expedition” was the release of photos (real or manufactured IS IRRELEVANT) into the public forum. Once witnessed, the guilty party (Isaac) would be “lured” into a confession via publication.

Isaac took the bait, posting the PARC documents, along with lengthy commentary to the free hosting website Fortunecity.com. The PARC upload to Fortunecity.com was most certainly done from a public computer, and untraceable. .Ask Todd and Tony Savo. the lawyers.


The second Isaac contacted LMH via email, he was done for. Linda had her answers to question for Isaac, the day after her release. Read Dr.Dils Timeline. Linda and whitley inadvertently blurted out at second chance podcast and he DRT contact, that conversations took place before the release by Linda.

Unfortunately, I believe Isaac is dead, and the documents he removed have been returned for audit at the facility where the rest of the PARC documentation is being held.
You should know that all docs are copied, no one really works on will nill their own documents or what they felt like.. Every has an assigned task , daily meetings, goals etc. These are all performance driven projects.
You are correct, Isaac, as a project is dead. as a person or group, like victor martinez, working on the next one..


This observer has no respectable reason to doubt the PARC documents, or the commentary that went along with them.
thats like saying any reason that does doubt it is disrespectful or you havent studied it in terms of the "big picture" where ample respectable reasons await you.
NOTE

There has been much ado about the photos. Part of that is human nature; part of it is a misdirection tactic to take attention away from items 2-6 above.

Your humble author has posted these points many times in many places, and they are always either ignored, or twisted to get back to the photos. To date, no decent explanation regarding the use of the graphical data has been brought forth. To date, no copyright claim on the graphical data has been made.

Third parties continue to make money off the use of the graphical data in the PARC documents.
we call that capitalism, it really works good.

In the world we live in today, that fact alone should make a concrete argument for the reality of the Isaac testimony.


posting same thing may times in many places despite what overwhelming view is can hardly be construed as Humble, persistent, dogmatic, yes.

Lack of copyright only makes the product more readly spread, like the old giveaway days, or what we call today opensource., and it becomes either a household word or accepted standard , Read a little more on Marketing concepts.etc
Making money of entertainment doesn't make a movie script real. No matter how articulate the narrator.He really said what he said does not make it really real. remember, what engineeringtype and ArlingtonAcid said, "verasimilitude..what movie makers, scriptwriters, Game makers .strive for: Realism. realistic.

Thanx for your post, I disagree, but I liked it.
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