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« Reply #1410 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 3:28pm »

on Sep 15th, 2008, 12:55pm, TeachersPet wrote:
Apologies Marvin, I was not aware of that part it was still posted as unknown, I think there is a hoax stamp with red letters too, maybee even one for Authentic, in the event was come across. That would be good to stamp it and label source in red too. Yes, I remember how Tomi hung on to that one mistakenly for quite a while. No need to have others go thru that again.


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The UFO Casebook received via email a photograph of an object very similar to previous images of the so-called "strange craft." I have absolutely no information regarding the image. It was of some interest to me because of the unit sitting on the ground. I can only surmise that it is some type of control unit for the drone-type craft. Or, is this just another attention grabbing hoax?
If any of you know what we may be looking at here, please let me know.
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Would one of the Mods update B J Booth?What it the rule for using the Casebook as a target for hoaxing? Personally, I am not in favor of allowing it (just MHO).
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« Reply #1411 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 4:09pm »

As we said before to play some computer games with the Drone pictures and not have a true understanding of what happens in computer graphics is wrong and must be known by who does such. The RAJ shadow is not missing and the optical change in apparent shape of the Big Basin Drone is just that optical and not the work of a hoaxer. Remember we have never denied the possibility of a very complex and sophisticated hoax , but not the sloppy hoax so many propose. We do know how to fake a photo and this is not that. The opponents of the Drone/Isaac reality like to say it is an easy thing to do. They get this information from one source and one source only, ignoring that here rests an agenda too. 27000 posts do not point to anything common. Ego, and arrogance are greatly involved in this event. The Drones also have a historical context that is ignored and the research done elsewhere is ignored to. The constant repeating of a falsehood does not make it true for this is only a crude method of bulling persuasion and nothing more.
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« Reply #1412 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 6:30pm »

The damage was done and a substantial number of posts of those 27000 you keep referring to were dedicated to resolving that. In fact, the reason it hit that many was because the site you refer to had over 12 pages of threads, nearly 330 plus threads. ie they overspecialized. Early suspects at ATS, were clamoring for more threads, but ATS kept it simple, and came to a conclusion quickly. Here it has also stayed manageable. But as to the problem at hand, the hoaxed thumper, that shows a clear lack of sensitivity to the issues that beset ufology, with few resources, financial, and human and otherwise, and how important forums are in solving some of these problems. Adding a hoaxed picture to something else some think real, in a public forum, to engender support, is what hurts us and is a common tool of disinfo.
This is disturbing more as you understand the historical context of things and it is not an isolated incident, given the prior history at other forums such as Thoth, as well as Wikipedia , and expulsion from there. This is not an allegation. It is a documented fact.Trying to revise history of an ancient order HOGD using sockpuppets.
What you did there is no different here. And had you succeeded. We would all be believing an untruth. There are a few in other areas of history, who have attempted to erase great tragedies, fortunately, they could not erase the survivors. Notwithstanding these obstacles we see here, we will get to the truth.


But at least we have this one for the record answered quite clearly, thanks to Marvin.
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« Reply #1413 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 7:03pm »

The level of work a hoaxer does is of no importance, a hoax is a hoax... the good folks here know what a hoax is. wink
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« Reply #1414 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 7:56pm »

The Drone/Isaac event can not be wished away by inventing some hoaxer who would have to have made at least 4 different drones and drone parts and on and on. Pseudo CG knowledge will not work either. The OMF rush to this site shows all what this is really about . The Big Basin Drone was not wrongly positioned by some CG artist and the Raj Drone does not have a missing shadow as is evidenced by some the shadows on the utility pole. The dictates of any "expert" are just that dictates. Many now the facts about here and at other sites and are prepared for the predictable outcome. In other words the destruction of the Drone/Isaac events will not happen. A thousand more blogs and a thousand more forums will spring up as and when needed. Anyone who says it has been solved is laboring under a false assumption or something more sinister. I have suggested since you seem to believe it is solved for you and your friends to consider it so and pick something else out. It will always be on the Internet and it will spring up time and time again. What does it say of a place where 27000 posts continue when true hoaxes have fallen by the wayside. Many have the knowledge that this represents something very real, something that is under attack for hidden agendas and private reasons.
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« Reply #1415 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 8:08pm »

If it is a hoax, someone should have their butt kicked lol.
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« Reply #1416 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 8:14pm »

Whatever it is it is not a simple hoax. That is certainly what is promoted by gibberish and appeals to fellow debunkers, but a simple hoax it is not. By now money could be made by the Hoaxer, but where is he!!! The Hoaxer could write a book, but where is it! The debunkers have all this waiting in the wings and remember the first debunker use a background of a military base in the construction of his debunking tool.
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« Reply #1417 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 9:52pm »

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Anyone reading our contrite resent posts should know from the above "THAT IT CAN BE CONTINUED FOREVER".
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« Reply #1418 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 10:30pm »

every drone can be a ufo, but not every ufo has to be a drone. No similarity whatsoever to the classic, or even evolutionatry as the chad then to ty version. But you can call the brownsville one a ufo. you can't tell if its even unmanned or manned by midget aliens, let alone a drone. It was drifting, like those metallic helium baloons fro walmart. As much as you want these drones to continue, I think you should be fair to the other objects out there that want a fair shot of fame or deserve further analysis.before you call it a drone, of any kind actually.. Ufos will be with us forever, and make life interesting, but not the particular 2007 group you love so much, and have gone to great lengths to bolster with your own props and versions, and submitting here, as you did the hoaxed thumper.
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« Reply #1419 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 10:40pm »

As much as you crave for the Drones to stop, you are the one who called this a drone. I said and will continue to say that this game can be continued for ever. I have no personal interest in this, but may use it in future. That group is already going and will continue. I do not mind learning by your methods and what I will see continued is far more than any Drone, but for the moment they are useful. You often misinterpret, is in on purpose or unavoidable.
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« Reply #1420 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 11:16pm »

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even balloons like that can be ufos, not necessaarily a drone.
I like their choice of colors too. Happy birthday whoever in Brownsville photos at 300 500 800 x colors adjusted on paint.net Happy Birthday Lev! cheesy JK I do love birthday parties, and just gave one recently using a bunch of baloons tied togeher just like that..not cheap either. but no black ops budget by the same token.
I think you are spot on..you can do a bunch of creative things leve, whether a video, even a game, even a board game! it has potential for all of that. or even transformer type kits like that scorpion..I havent seen anyone with that. That I will never take away from the caret drones, or you.
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« Reply #1421 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 11:32pm »

You need to find better software are maybe you don't understand the Drone, Isaac, balloons, Loons, Cheap CG, etc. means not one thing, it is the effect and nourishment, as in food, that we devilish monsters get from this that counts. People will always do as the Sheepdog barks and the Herdsman commands. When the owner says they will happily go for slaughter. This is what is bound up in this age old UFO phenomena. The right of ownership and who enforces that right. The world around you now spins one way then another seemingly without guidance. It is guided every step and if things such as the Drones or Isaac help so be it.
They can be mothballed and brought back time and time again. For disclosure, sit at the feet of Dan of OMF the Drones continue to work even now as they turned each way in the Garden.
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« Reply #1422 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 11:55pm »

ONE THING I WAS IMPRESSED WITH...WITH REGARD TO THE REFABRICATION OF THIS PHENOMENA WAS WHAT KRIS OR SALAD FINGERS DID AND HIS VIDEO PROJECT...
WHAT CREATIVITY AND THAT COMPUTER AND SEQUENCING WITH MUSIC...WASN'T HE THE FIRST TO DO THIS?...HEY I DON'T KNOW BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK!
AM I WRONG TO THINK THAT WAS DONE KINDA LIKE THE GARAGE BANDS...GRUNGE MOVEMENT...DO IT WITH NOTHING AND MAKE A REASONABLE PRODUCT...HAVING SAID THAT...KRIS ACKNOWLEDEGED HIS PURPOSE AND POINTED OUT THAT THOSE WHOM ARE DETERMINED TO BELIEVE WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF COMPARATIVE EVEIDENCE ARE EASILY CAUGHT IN THAT TRAP OF BELIEF WITHOUT QUESTION...
SALAD FINGERS KINDA TWEAKED THAT ASPECT OF CGI AND GOT A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF RECOGNITION... EH?
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« Reply #1423 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 11:55pm »

Do you mean you don't like birthday cakes, ice cream, and balloons! Thats terrible!..Yes I have cheap software, all free.gimp is tricky, paintnet does the job as here.
I have cs3 premium to..rhino, z brush, poser, autodesk, but I have no need for them.
The pixel counting buck stops at casebook for sure. cheesy
Thats why people pray Lev, worldwide, some praying for us we don't even know..they offset to some extent all those bad vibes and that food supply you mentioned. Stay trim and fit I always say. smiley

@zetar that is very true, and he does come from a very talented family, with all nice delightful sites. I wish I could post them..I will soon..
In a way it brought out the best in him..and lev too, if he stopped being so hardheaded.

Saludos hermano!

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