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« Reply #1455 on: Sep 27th, 2008, 1:29pm »

Excuse me Lat , Stay on topic and stop trying to goad Gort and people into arguments. Its so transparent Your intelligence is not at issue here, but
you asked for an opinion and you got it. If your little voice goes against the common grain, then you are free to follow it.
As I stated this is not the thread for those a51witnesstapes on the drone thread. or we may as well include every ufo youtube tape including all mufon reports. under the little voices told me differently.
Thats a sorry way imo to try and keep the drone issue "alive".
I don't think so.

Perhaps you could bring us some hrd core info from the Pis , instead of hearsay, or maybe be you can help by asking PIs to doublecheck the "background info of the DRT members, which they claimed to have done in the beginning.
See if any other kin live in the area connecting the restaurant and los gatos, and san Jose, own business or interests, like for example, another restautrant or maybe..even rock club (so many musicians in this story) something like that, and rule out motives and freeloaders.
That would be interesting in helping getting to the global truth. Do you know anybody like that that fits that bill and is on the DRT?
I bet surely we can revive interest in the Drones then, maybe even oodles of hits.
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« Reply #1456 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 1:36pm »

on Sep 27th, 2008, 1:29pm, TeachersPet wrote:
Do you know anybody like that that fits that bill and is on the DRT?


Nope. I don't know of anybody who fits that description. DRT are simply people wanting to learn more about the drones. The PIs are totally unrelated retired cops. It's all quite innocent but you can believe what you want. I find it odd you can believe all kinds of crazy theories.

So I truthfully answered your question so how about you answer mine. Why do you work so hard trying to shout down any open minded discussion about the drones? Is somebody paying you to do so?

The drone subject will live on. People will always wonder about it just like Roswell and all the rest.

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« Reply #1457 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 4:30pm »

Would ALL members please stay on topic.

TeachersPet: If you intend to reply to this specific question then PLEASE take it to PM’s.

Many thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1458 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 4:34pm »

on Sep 28th, 2008, 1:36pm, Latitude wrote:
Nope. I don't know of anybody who fits that description. DRT are simply people wanting to learn more about the drones. The PIs are totally unrelated retired cops. It's all quite innocent but you can believe what you want. I find it odd you can believe all kinds of crazy theories.

So I truthfully answered your question so how about you answer mine. Why do you work so hard trying to shout down any open minded discussion about the drones? Is somebody paying you to do so?

The drone subject will live on. People will always wonder about it just like Roswell and all the rest.

Obviously this is just MY opinion but it seems to me as if the pro-real crowd have done infinitely more to stifle any ‘open-minded’ discussion than any pro-hoax advocate by retreating to an elitist private forum where it appears they discuss issues conducive to further reaffirmations.

And continue to do so…..

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« Reply #1459 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 6:15pm »

Thank you DrDil, you have essentially provided the answer to him, except the renumeration part, which for the record..the ONLY ones I know getting financing from mysterious , (as they refused to answer who), unknown sources for their elitist forum and PIs is the DRT, and that is common public knowledge.
It seems to me that is an obstacle also to getting to the truth of this matter.
And I know the public deserves an answer.

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« Reply #1460 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 6:34pm »

on Sep 28th, 2008, 4:34pm, DrDil wrote:
Obviously this is just MY opinion but it seems to me as if the pro-real crowd have done infinitely more to stifle any ‘open-minded’ discussion than any pro-hoax advocate by retreating to an elitist private forum where it appears they discuss issues conducive to further reaffirmations.


Hi Dr Dill smiley

While it may appear that way to some I can assure you that is not the purpose of DRT forum. There has been no retreat. My presence here shows that is not true. Many other members of DRT forum also frequent many other forums too. It's not elitist at all. It is an experiment of a different kind of forum. It's one that requires much less moderation. As a matter of fact no moderation actions have been necessary so far. The idea was to form a forum that would allow those to post about the drones free from the arguments and attacks that seem to be the norm with this subject. So far it has worked very well. There are some members who are not pro real and that's fine. The members are free to believe how they want but they all know going into it that the forum leans to likely real side. This is what makes it work so well and makes it such a civil forum that focuses on the drone subject.
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« Reply #1461 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 7:00pm »

on Sep 28th, 2008, 6:34pm, Latitude wrote:
Hi Dr Dill smiley

While it may appear that way to some I can assure you that is not the purpose of DRT forum. There has been no retreat. My presence here shows that is not true. Many other members of DRT forum also frequent many other forums too. It's not elitist at all. It is an experiment of a different kind of forum. It's one that requires much less moderation. As a matter of fact no moderation actions have been necessary so far. The idea was to form a forum that would allow those to post about the drones free from the arguments and attacks that seem to be the norm with this subject. So far it has worked very well. There are some members who are not pro real and that's fine. The members are free to believe how they want but they all know going into it that the forum leans to likely real side. This is what makes it work so well and makes it such a civil forum that focuses on the drone subject.


Thats wonderful although neglecting to mention that banning ips od people who merely read and are not members and a different point of view indeed makes it very special and unique.

and of course, its refreshing to see this new open willingnes to talk about somethinh barely anyone is talking about. Do you have some new information after 15 months that would vindicate the DRT position its real, or even look further into it? (besides the hoaxter part(
All the testing and informed opinions seem to say otherwise like those 8 or nine analysts at OM, even Gafmad, who found peculiarities at DRT, and has not posted back since.,not including the expert opinions at the beginning, like aMufon, Biedny, etc...
Do you have anything other than your "gut feeling"..
Its awful hard to discuss that, let alone analyze or quantify the basis for it.

Absent that I can only interpret this not as an attempt at discussion, but an attempt to hijack attention, or perhaps the thread, as no one else appears to be listening or interested in what the DRT is saying.
Do You have something Substantive to discuss on the drone?, besides the six non related tapes. Maybe the OMF admins question, Jake, which never was answered by you and dealt with misleading statements, and cute replies as you are doing here.
Why not answer those ? That would be substantive and germane to the Drone sightings




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« Reply #1462 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 7:32pm »

on Sep 28th, 2008, 7:00pm, TeachersPet wrote:
Why not answer those ? That would be substantive and germane to the Drone sightings


What question would you like an answer to? Ask it. I still don't understand what Jake's questions were. Is that an offense? Evidently it was enough to get me banned over there. Maybe Jake never intended for me to answer any questions. But I thought 11A answered all the questions.
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« Reply #1463 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 9:21pm »

You know exactly what Jake was saying, I in fact spelled it out for you.

At best, you tried to spin a deception promoting your point of view.

At worst you lied.



DRT an Elitist forum?

Too kind......

I was thinking Cultist
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« Reply #1464 on: Sep 28th, 2008, 10:21pm »

I MAY BE WRONG BUT IT SEEMED AS IF "LATITUDE" EXTENDED AN "OLIVE BRANCH" TO FURTHER THE DISCUSSION...WHETHER "DRONES"... FAKE OF NOT... NO-ONE SHOULD FEEL AS IF THEY MUST JUMP FROM FORUM TO FORUM MERELY TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION...
EVEN IF FEATHERS ARE RUFFLED, OPINIONS CUT ACROSS THE GRAIN OR CONVERSELY...ENCOUNTERS A DIGITAL RUBBER STAMP OF THE PREDOMINANT CADRE' OF ANY FORUM...EACH OF US HAS THE RIGHT TO VOICE OUR POSITION REGARDLESS OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL SCENARIOS WHICH SURFACE...
I GUESS THE KEY ...OR ONE ASPECT IS TO ELIMINATE THE EMOTION WITH THIS TOPIC WHEN WE ALL KNOW SAID THREAD BEGINS TO HEAT UP...( OF COURSE I KNOW IT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE)
WHEN THAT OCCURS...THOSE DISCUSSING SAID TOPIC AUTOMATICALLY REPELL AND IN THAT VACCUUM...SO TOO GO MANY MEMBERS AND THOSE WHOM SOUGHT SOLICE IN THIS FORUM TO PROVIDE ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS...WELL...THEY ARE LEFT SCRATCHING...THEIR HEADS rolleyes
WELL...LET'S AT LEAST HOPE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE SCRATCHING grin

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« Reply #1465 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 03:45am »

on Sep 28th, 2008, 6:34pm, Latitude wrote:
Hi Dr Dill smiley

While it may appear that way to some I can assure you that is not the purpose of DRT forum. There has been no retreat. My presence here shows that is not true. Many other members of DRT forum also frequent many other forums too. It's not elitist at all. It is an experiment of a different kind of forum. It's one that requires much less moderation. As a matter of fact no moderation actions have been necessary so far. The idea was to form a forum that would allow those to post about the drones free from the arguments and attacks that seem to be the norm with this subject. So far it has worked very well. There are some members who are not pro real and that's fine. The members are free to believe how they want but they all know going into it that the forum leans to likely real side. This is what makes it work so well and makes it such a civil forum that focuses on the drone subject.

That’s your opinion and it doesn’t affect mine and in fact I disagree with everything you just wrote. If further conversation regarding the DRT is to be conducted then please do so at the DRT forum or if it is invited by yourself then start a new thread here at Casebook.

Thankyou.

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« Reply #1466 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 07:28am »

on Sep 27th, 2008, 12:29pm, Latitude wrote:
I am drawing no conclusions. But you do seem to contradict yourself. First you point out good acting then you point out how easy it should be to see through the bs. Which is it?

But if it is required to post a conclusion (I don't understand why it is. What does it accomplish?) I would lean heavily toward a ruse. I might as well. What good would it do to say "I believe it"? It would be of no help to the alleged witness. It would not further any cause toward disclosure. It would only entice people to post disparaging remarks at me, like "you need to recalibrate your bs detector", insinuating that I have no ability to discern or have no common sense or that I simply am not as intelligent.

But even though you may believe it is a ruse I am sure there still is that little voice inside that says "what if it isn't?", just like the drones. wink





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I am drawing no conclusions. But you do seem to contradict yourself. First you point out good acting then you point out how easy it should be to see through the bs. Which is it?



I have seen a number of movies or shows where the acting will compete with this... and the story lines are total BS. But let's look at this story:

Cryogenic units next to a pool of water?

180 plus bodies (from where)?

Gills on one side of the neck and they look just like us?

(This is your basic 1950’s Sci Fi stuff).

He did not know the name of Cheyenne Mountain? shocked

His house was raided and they were screaming like it was something out of COPS… like this was something new to him (and he once was one of these kind of guys)?? rolleyes

He had an Air Force Police badge and you cannot get one from a department store (but you can get one here). tongue

http://cgi.ebay.com/USAF-AIR-FORCE-SECURITY-POLICE-VINTAGE-OBSOLETE-BADGE_W0QQitemZ280268511535


You mean that kind of BS? grin


He ends his “fun times” with, he did not work for nor does he have any knowledge of…. That is about the only believable statement he made.
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« Reply #1467 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 08:18am »

this is the first i have heard about DRT any links to it so i can judge for myself
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« Reply #1468 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 08:27am »

on Sep 29th, 2008, 08:18am, hyundisonata wrote:
this is the first i have heard about DRT any links to it so i can judge for myself



Per your request:

http://droneteam.com/index.php
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« Reply #1469 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 4:28pm »

No one understands Lat. You either accept him or argue with him. It doesn't matter to him which one. Lol! rolleyes

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