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« Reply #195 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 11:48am »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 10:55am, Nodnunk wrote:
Has anybody noticed this before?
The arrangement of the spikes in Chad's cell phone photo matches the arrangement in the other photos only when the cell photo is flipped horizontally. We know that the two photo sessions were on different days, so the difference could mean:
1. Chad's drone can reconfigure itself.
2. The drone spikes did not change, but the cell phone photo was flipped horizontally before it was posted.
3. They are different drones.
4. Something else?

Chad's cell phone photo (grey scaled, made negative, flipped horizontally)

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If you class the segmented paddle as the front of the craft then travel clockwise you would come to the first of the three paddles that are bunched together.

Another way of looking at it could be if you move from the front to the rear in a clockwise motion then you will pass two paddles.

This appears the same in both images doesnít it?

Or have I missed something? undecided
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« Reply #196 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 12:23pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 11:48am, DrDil wrote:
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If you class the segmented paddle as the front of the craft then travel clockwise you would come to the first of the three paddles that are bunched together.

Another way of looking at it could be if you move from the front to the rear in a clockwise motion then you will pass two paddles.

This appears the same in both images doesnít it?

Or have I missed something? undecided


From my seat, they are different.
Viewing the bottom looking up at the object.
Using the large segmented paddle as reference at zero degrees.
Cell photo:
Rotating clockwise as in your cell-phone inset, the spikes are at 90, 135, 180, 270 degrees.
Your comparison photo:
Rotating clockwise, the spikes are at 90, 180, 225, 270 degrees.
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« Reply #197 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 12:42pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 11:48am, DrDil wrote:
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If you class the segmented paddle as the front of the craft then travel clockwise you would come to the first of the three paddles that are bunched together.

Another way of looking at it could be if you move from the front to the rear in a clockwise motion then you will pass two paddles.

This appears the same in both images doesnít it?

Or have I missed something? undecided



on Oct 11th, 2007, 12:23pm, Nodnunk wrote:
From my seat, they are different.
Viewing the bottom looking up at the object.
Using the large segmented paddle as reference at zero degrees.
Cell photo:
Rotating clockwise as in your cell-phone inset, the spikes are at 90, 135, 180, 270 degrees.
Your comparison photo:
Rotating clockwise, the spikes are at 90, 180, 225, 270 degrees.



I agree Nodnunk. The drones appear to be mirrored images of each other.

I may be saying the same thing here...

On Chad's high quality photo, clockwise from the long paddle takes you to the lone spike side.

On the Chadís cell phone photo, clockwise takes you to the triple spike side.

Nice catch. Something to talk about.
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« Reply #198 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 12:47pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 12:42pm, Marvin wrote:
I agree Nodnunk. The drones appear to be mirrored images of each other.

I may be saying the same thing here...

On Chad's high quality photo, clockwise from the long paddle takes you to the lone spike side.

On the Chadís cell phone photo, clockwise takes you to the triple spike side.

Nice catch. Something to talk about.


No. This is an old one and has been explained long ago. Also the Turkoman point has also been explained. I don't have the time right now to go through it but suffice it to say, after all these months do you really think you could be the first to point out these possible discrepancies? Kind of reminds me of the time I thought I discovered major problems in Einstein's SR. I actually thought to myself, "am I the first in history to notice this?" Laughable laugh

I'll be back later to explain unless somebody else wants to.
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« Reply #199 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 12:49pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 12:23pm, Nodnunk wrote:
From my seat, they are different.
Viewing the bottom looking up at the object.
Using the large segmented paddle as reference at zero degrees.
Cell photo:
Rotating clockwise as in your cell-phone inset, the spikes are at 90, 135, 180, 270 degrees.
Your comparison photo:
Rotating clockwise, the spikes are at 90, 180, 225, 270 degrees.

Probably just me then!!! grin

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« Reply #200 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 2:43pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 12:47pm, Latitude wrote:
No. This is an old one and has been explained long ago. Also the Turkoman point has also been explained. I don't have the time right now to go through it but suffice it to say, after all these months do you really think you could be the first to point out these possible discrepancies? Kind of reminds me of the time I thought I discovered major problems in Einstein's SR. I actually thought to myself, "am I the first in history to notice this?" Laughable laugh

I'll be back later to explain unless somebody else wants to.



I guess we must have missed that discussion. Maybe someone will find some time to fill us in. Besides, there is nothing else shaking.

Hey Latitude, I did not know you dabbled in theoretical physics. As for me... I always thought pi are round, cornbread are squared. wink
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« Reply #201 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 2:55pm »

nice guys I had not heard that either..there is nothing wrong with going back to the seen of the "crime"
it may take several trips..in this case there is no such thing as a done deal..I say move on it. I liked the break down in degrees..and we have yet to come full circle..they have made it circles within circles ..remember the old scifi tv series where the alien probe was a giant Iq test..to record where intelligent life lay..another film was a probe that would explode like a supernova..if intelligent species succesfully decoded the answers..possibilties are endless..with unknown probes..one could be a welcome..the other a goodbye..
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« Reply #202 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 3:48pm »

This has to do with the "Isaac Primer".

As I've been going through endless perceptions of barcode, I would like you to actually count the number of bars in the primer. (regardless of the length of the bars, as it will be in 2 cond tense or more)

As all of you probably have noticed by now, there has not been given numeric equals in the "primer", exept for the one's hidden in the "Barcode"? Right? It's all "language" and symbols.

If any symbol represent a whole, (this is NOT technobabble) there has to be guidiance levels of tuning the instrument, so to speak.

This is probably made by the "barcodes". They contain numbers.

As to read them, for us to understand, is a whole other matter.

If we know the numbers of the "barcode" and the interleave between the three circles....we might be able to determine if this is a hoax or not.

Follow my drift...if it equals out..we know the origin!

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« Reply #203 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 5:20pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 2:43pm, Marvin wrote:
I guess we must have missed that discussion. Maybe someone will find some time to fill us in. Besides, there is nothing else shaking.

Hey Latitude, I did not know you dabbled in theoretical physics. As for me... I always thought pi are round, cornbread are squared. wink


Hi Marvin,

Dabbling in physics may be overstating it. I have little formal training in the subject. Like many other things I am self taught. Once I read enough about SR to get a basic understanding it occurred to me that much of it was jumping to odd conclusions based on unfounded previous conclusions. I seemed to me that all his problems stemmed from once mistake, discounting the existence of the aether. That one stumble lead to a snowball effect culminating in all sorts of weird theories.


Here is the explanation of the Chad drone appearing to be mirrored. It may look that way but it all depends on how you see the cell phone pic.

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The drone in the cell phone pic is not coming toward the camera, it's going away.

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« Reply #204 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 5:56pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 5:20pm, Latitude wrote:
It may look that way but it all depends on how you see the cell phone pic.

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The drone in the cell phone pic is not coming toward the camera, it's going away.

Thatís the conclusion I arrived at (Iíve never seen it discussed though) thatís why I posted the image of an optical illusion that shows two different images based on the perception of the person who views it.
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« Reply #205 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:02pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 11:08am, turkoman wrote:
Re above: tahoeLady's shots show the drone reconfiguring in a matter of seconds, strut goes from left to right. She says the object was moving and revolving. We are asked to believe that drones can do this. I say 'asked to belief' because any report which correlates to the Caret report is suspect in my opinion, given the drivel in that report (great graphics though)


Drivel? Hardly. Also every witness has stated the drones rotate as they move and Raj said the rotation appeared to be independent of the movement.

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Still examining the Tahoe pics and story. I was puzzled by the location of the arms on the object. But now I've come to the conclusion that this Tahoe object is definately not the same one that Chad saw. Chad's object had one large arm and four small. This object has two large arms and two small. It has been reported that the second Tahoe photo looks to be reversed. I have determined it was not. It most likely has rotated about 100 degrees counter-clockwise in 5 seconds.

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« Reply #206 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:03pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 5:20pm, Latitude wrote:
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The drone in the cell phone pic is not coming toward the camera, it's going away.




Actually, for this to work, the long paddle would have to coming toward us and to our right (dipping down so that you would not see the bottom). If you do that, then the clockwise spike count will go lone spike first.

If the long paddle is going away from us to our right, then the clockwise spike count will go three spikes first. But if this is true, you should see the bottom of the drone.



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As you can see from the enlargement, the long paddle appears to be going away and to the right... since we can see the bottom of the drone (that black circular area). It is below the three o'clock position. If this were coming toward us, it should reside above the three o'clock position. This makes the clockwise spike count go three spikes first.

That makes this drone a different configuration and a mirrored image of the clearer photo version.

I guess they missed that on the last discussion.

Great catch and call Nodnunk.
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« Reply #207 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:14pm »

Marvin, excuse me when I said coming and going away that was a mistake. I can make no determination what direction the object is travelling. I guess I was visualizing the long arm as the tail. embarassed See what happens when you let terrestrial thinking bog you down?

The Chad cell phone pic is the top of the drone with the long arm closer to the camera.
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on Oct 11th, 2007, 6:14pm, Latitude wrote:
Marvin, excuse me when I said coming and going away that was a mistake. I can make no determination what direction the object is travelling. I guess I was visualizing the long arm as the tail. embarassed See what happens when you let terrestrial thinking bog you down?

The Chad cell phone pic is the top of the drone with the long arm closer to the camera.



No worrys about coming and going.

Take another look, it is physically impossible for the long paddle to be between us and the drone.

To do that and see the bottom of the drone, the long paddle would have to be above the 3 o'clock position.

The photo and facts do not back that up.
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« Reply #209 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:25pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 6:22pm, Marvin wrote:
No worrys about coming and going.

Take another look, it is physically impossible for the long paddle to be between us and the drone.

To do that and see the bottom of the drone, the long paddle would have to be above the 3 o'clock position.

The photo and facts do not back that up.


You are NOT looking at the bottom of the drone. You are looking at the top side.
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