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« Reply #210 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:37pm »

From MarkM.....Personally, I think the effects of Saladfingers art projects have been highly over rated. I also happen to think that the video, if anything, presented the drones as a question without offering an answer. As to CGI in general, every UFO report these days that makes it to the Discovery or History Channel has a very realistic CGI re-enactment that goes with it.

Here I thought I was the only one here that can see. Far too many people have given this guy way too much credit, he's only close with the general shape of the object after that it's over. He hasn't shown me that it could be CGI, he's shown me that even making a copy is impossible. Don't believe me.......overlay his with pics taken and take a look. If you can't see then I am sorry, not for me, I'm happy that the work I've done over the years has given me a discerning eye.
I hope everyone has noticed that he has left alone the Capitola Drone for the most part, there are people "saying" it's a CGI, but to date there hasn't been a duplicate made to prove such a charge.
To all those that do.....don't just sing it, bring it !!!!!!!
I'm not saying it's real or it isn't, but it isn't CGI so far, it's the most real looking of the whole bunch of pics. I had motion picture cameramen, technicians, and 2 of my friends that are ASC members in good standing for over 25 years, they said it's CGI, I asked show me where it's shows such a thing. I was told the picture ( Capitola) is really good and no flaws can be found, but the craft couldn't possibly be real, so it's CGI or a model, but since no there's no evidence of any propulsion it's CGI.
Before parting they also said if it turns out to be real please let them know how the hell it flies.
I showed the the CARET documents to them, the first words were "why would someone go to such trouble to do all of this ?"
So, it's CGI because it can't be real, there are no flaws that can be detected in the pictures to support CGI.
So, the only reasons I was given for CGI was that it can't be real, but upon seeing a picture of a Salad Drone they stated CGI without question, they see what I see in them also when put side by side.
The dimensions and textures are waaaaaaay off.
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« Reply #211 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 6:38pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 6:25pm, Latitude wrote:
You are NOT looking at the bottom of the drone. You are looking at the top side.



That is an interesting idea.

I was basing my idea, that we were looking at the bottom, based on the dark shadowing...

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Like the above, the inside of the ring shows darker,

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It looked like the bottom to me.


Tell me how you are seeing it is the top.
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« Reply #212 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 7:29pm »

Hi Marvin!
From my view...how could we be looking at the bottom if we know the paddles and spikes are level with the plane of the inner circle? The paddle jutting off to the right would be at an upward angle if we were looking at the bottom. It is downward so the view must be slightly above and that is the upper portion of the drone in sight. Unless I can be corrected that is. grin

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« Reply #213 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 9:35pm »

Hope this helps some of you to see it better! wink

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« Reply #214 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 9:39pm »

that fixs that ;good roh.cool cool.
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« Reply #215 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 10:05pm »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 5:20pm, Latitude wrote:
Hi Marvin,

Dabbling in physics may be overstating it. I have little formal training in the subject. Like many other things I am self taught. Once I read enough about SR to get a basic understanding it occurred to me that much of it was jumping to odd conclusions based on unfounded previous conclusions. I seemed to me that all his problems stemmed from once mistake, discounting the existence of the aether. That one stumble lead to a snowball effect culminating in all sorts of weird theories.


Here is the explanation of the Chad drone appearing to be mirrored. It may look that way but it all depends on how you see the cell phone pic.

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The drone in the cell phone pic is not coming toward the camera, it's going away.



That is the correct port and starboard Lat has pointed out...

@Marvin, for the spokes to show through on top of the drone, it would have to be the top that we see...

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« Reply #216 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 10:08pm »

Doh! What RoH said! grin LOL Took me 15 minutes to do my work of art cry

RoH, very nice illustration!
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« Reply #217 on: Oct 11th, 2007, 11:44pm »

5... 6... 7... and some enhanced pictures of the TY Drone: (click image for full size)

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While we wait for LMH to release the high-res pictures! rolleyes
I want to know what's going on in the jj picture! take a look in the cage... (nr. 4)
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« Reply #218 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 12:09am »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 11:44pm, RoH wrote:
While we wait for LMH to release the high-res pictures! rolleyes
I want to know what's going on in the jj picture! take a look in the cage... (nr. 4)


RoH, I've been saying it for months now. I still don't like the looks of the bottom cage. I know many members thought I was nuts. That cage is creeping me out.
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« Reply #219 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 07:32am »

on Oct 11th, 2007, 9:35pm, RoH wrote:
Hope this helps some of you to see it better! wink

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http://www.colorcube.com/illusions/illusion.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necker_cube


I never considered that we were seeing the top of the drone. It is in the sky and the photographer is on the ground, my bias was and is that we are seeing the bottom. And the long fin is pointing away. If we are seeing the top, then the drone must be tilted with the near part down and the far part up with the long fin to the right.

So the illusions show that it is a matter of perception whether we are seeing the top or bottom. We can never get agreement with such a fuzzy photo.
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« Reply #220 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 07:37am »

on Oct 12th, 2007, 12:09am, Latitude wrote:
RoH, I've been saying it for months now. I still don't like the looks of the bottom cage. I know many members thought I was nuts. That cage is creeping me out.
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This is another case of a fuzzy photo and individual perception.
Consider the Saladfingers video, he seems to have figured it out.
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« Reply #221 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 07:38am »

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Roh, while using this method could you still determine if any part of the image was CGI IF the image had been printed and scanned back into the computer?

Also would it show up as different if it was a CGI item placed on a CGI background?
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« Reply #222 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 09:35am »

on Oct 12th, 2007, 12:09am, Latitude wrote:
RoH, I've been saying it for months now. I still don't like the looks of the bottom cage. I know many members thought I was nuts. That cage is creeping me out.
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A lightbulb fitting? grin

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« Reply #223 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 11:14am »

Egads! laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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« Reply #224 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 11:16am »

on Oct 12th, 2007, 07:37am, Nodnunk wrote:
This is another case of a fuzzy photo and individual perception.
Consider the Saladfingers video, he seems to have figured it out.


Maybe it is perception but only that one photo has the bulge in it. Why don't I see a bulge in all of them?

How is the Saladfingers video relevant?
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