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« Reply #360 on: Oct 19th, 2007, 6:53pm »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:48pm, Latitude wrote:
I made this gif of the Ty pics. I think this is the sequence.

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Great work as always Latitude!

But as I watch this version, does it seem like the "feelers" do not change orientation?
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« Reply #361 on: Oct 19th, 2007, 7:02pm »

on Oct 18th, 2007, 10:56am, turkoman wrote:
Firstly it really needs to be made quite clear that the Caret documents, and by extension the photographed? drones, are hoaxes. It is perfectly obvious: the document talks about antigravity, which is not known to the scientific community to exist. That is not to say that antigravity does not exist, but the matter has not been determined (and in fact it probably doesn't). If Caret knew, the scientific community would know. It is this simple fact that accounts for the fact that everyone has dropped this matter, and the mainstream media has completely ignored the drones except as a media phenonenum in its own right.

It does not follow that drones do not exist, indeed I believe that I may have seen one, or rather not seen one. In 2003 I hit a golf ball and watched it disappear in mid air. Fine you say, happens to me all the time: but this was not a drive but a chip shot no more that 50m from the hole, and the ball disappeared no more than 30m from me. An extensive search failed to find the ball and it was a straight forward chip. My brother in law, who was on the green at the time, said he heard me hit the ball but never heard it land. I did not know what happened to the ball, but now I believe it may have been captured by a drone.

This interpretation relies not only on the drone accounts but the extraordinary news from the world of mainstream science: that invisibility is possible and our work on it is progressing. In 2006 invisibility for microwaves was shown. Early this month the work was extended to the visible spectrum. Seeing is believing, you can see the images on the net. Putting together the fact that we are now "allowed to" "believe in" invisibility with the drone sightings gives me my interest in this topic.

So where from here. Allow me to suggest the following:

* simple arguments show that extraterrestial civilizations are many orders of magnitude older than our own, although probably no older than 200 million years (since second generation stars with iron and so forth are required).

* for such old civilizations the main imperative is the generation of meaning, ie interest in their lives. They like to observe us for the same reasons we like to observe orangetangs and gorillas, and they do not set up embassies with us for the same reason that we do not set up embassies with orangetangs and gorillas. (The gorillas are probably debating the question whether the strange hairless apes they sometimes see really exist, with the overwhelming gorillan concensus being that such a hairless thing is physically impossible.)

* invisible drones are the efficient and cost-effective way of observing us. We may all star in a celestial version of Big Brother or SimEarth. These drones may well be pervasive, at least one every 100sq miles, possibly many more. I am guessing that a spherical object is more easily cloaked than other shapes.

* The invisibility work suggests that invisibility is harder to create for higher frequencies. It may well not be possible at all in the ultra violet and x-ray spectrum. Maybe someone who understands the physics could offer a comment on this.

* The earth is surveilled from space by various (manmade) satellites in various spectra. Possibly some of this material is publicly available and in the ultra violet or xray spectrum.

* If so such photographs should be checked for anomalies which could be drones. Obviously these anomalies would just be little dots.

* In any case we could carry out some surveillance of our own using cameras working in the x-ray spectrum. This would establish statistical patterns of observation (if it works). Once the phenomenum can be made predictable and repeatable then establishment scientists will fall over themselves rushing to study it. I suggest that those with an interest in photographing drones, such as Dougster (Urantia), push their efforts in this direction. Surely Fry's sells X-ray cameras? Just out of interest, anyone else got any disappearing golf ball stories? I suspect that if you tried to shoot down a drone, absolutely nothing would happen: the drone would capture the bullet.



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« Reply #362 on: Oct 19th, 2007, 7:05pm »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:53pm, Marvin wrote:
Great work as always Latitude!

But as I watch this version, does it seem like the "feelers" do not change orientation?


It seems the bottom cage area doesn't rotate independent of the main structure at all.
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« Reply #363 on: Oct 19th, 2007, 7:37pm »

on Oct 18th, 2007, 12:20pm, Marvin wrote:
I think the contradiction Latitude is pointing out is the first statement that the drones are a hoax then later argue for the reality of drones.




At least that is what tripped me up. But I believe you saying the photos were a hoax.


But then he said he thought he saw one, I don't get it.
As far as leaking out info about something floating in a lab, let's see....
Don't believe the "Bomb" had any leaks, and there were communities built to house those working on the project, there were literaly thousands working on it.
No one had ever heard of Francis Gary Powers until he and his Spy Plane were shot down.
The SR-71 had been flying for years before any word of it got out, then it took quite a while to prove it's existence.
Many Afro-American men were given Syphllis in Alabama, and it was allowed to run it's course, long thought to be rumor until it was proven and the Government tried to make ammends. Some perished, I believe some went insane, and many left sterile

I've been reading that the Rajman pics are hoaxes ? Did I miss something, there have been anomolies found in them and I missed the post ?
Many long kept secrets make the way into the public, much of the public would just as soon not want to know, many out of fear. Some secrets take longer than others, some have such a thick layer of BS on it built up over the years that the truth is more horrible than the lie to cover it up is.
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« Reply #364 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 08:38am »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:48pm, Latitude wrote:
I made this gif of the Ty pics. I think this is the sequence.

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Hi Latitude, thatís a great animation, I hope you donít mind but I played with the timing of it a little, this was the result.

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Something struck me about the animation, it appeared as if the spike protruding from the bottom of the craft wasnít moving in correspondence with the rest of the craft.

Itís almost as if the craft is sitting on the spike and rotating, or being rotated as a whole but from the base of the spike as that is where the least movement occurs.
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« Reply #365 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 08:44am »

(I forgot to ask undecided) was the base of the spike what you used as a point of reference?
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« Reply #366 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 10:01am »

That would be my guess.


Here is a poorly done GIF that shows relative motion to the background trees...



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The sequence is in order from AA and I did some adjustments to try to keep the trees in about the same orientation and size. Like I said, poorly done.

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« Reply #367 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 10:59am »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 08:44am, DrDil wrote:
(I forgot to ask undecided) was the base of the spike what you used as a point of reference?


I did use the spike as the point of reference.
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« Reply #368 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 11:02am »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:53pm, Marvin wrote:
Great work as always Latitude!

But as I watch this version, does it seem like the "feelers" do not change orientation?


What part is the feelers?
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« Reply #369 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 11:12am »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 7:37pm, LangLee wrote:
I've been reading that the Rajman pics are hoaxes ? Did I miss something, there have been anomolies found in them and I missed the post ?


Where did you read this? I must have missed it too.
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« Reply #370 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 11:17am »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:02am, Latitude wrote:
What part is the feelers?



That would be the curved "wires" on top.

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This part.



Someone called them feelers and that kind of stuck with me.
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« Reply #371 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 11:33am »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:17am, Marvin wrote:
That would be the curved "wires" on top.

Pics "kk" and "ll" has the drone at the top of the photo and cuts off the feelers.
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« Reply #372 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 12:08pm »

From the animations above, I noticed that photo JJ is the only one showing the feature circled in the image below. I'd think it would be visible in the other views.

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« Reply #373 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 1:37pm »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 12:08pm, Nodnunk wrote:
From the animations above, I noticed that photo JJ is the only one showing the feature circled in the image below. I'd think it would be visible in the other views.


I made this same observation a while back. I think It was RoH who pointed out the apparent anomaly is likely the outer small ring of the double set.
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« Reply #374 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 2:30pm »

on Oct 18th, 2007, 11:40am, Latitude wrote:
Please make up your mind! Why do you contradict yourself? You start out saying that the drones are a hoax then spend the remainder of your post arguing with yourself. Just because Caret knew anti-gravity existed does not mean they figured out how it worked. Besides Caret was a beyond secret project and not connected with mainstream science. Also, I don't need to tell you that at one time mainstream science claimed the world was flat!

Close Encounters of the Golfing Kind? Cool story.

The possibility of invisibility has been around since 1919. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lensing
If electromagnetic radiation is only a wave in a medium, it stands to reason that control of that medium would open up all kinds of possibilities including invisibility. Don't trust your eyes. What you see is not always what you get.


Right there Latitude, he seemed quite convinced, thought he had proof that I missed. must be his wording that's confusing me.
As far as his statement about Commercial Applications......
Thing that NASA and Defense Dept. develop don't make money, not real money. Sure the manufacturers that employ people make money from the Government, but that's it.
For instance, Carbon Fiber once only for DoD or NASA has made it's way into our world, there isn't a racing car or motorcycle that doesn't have some, that also goes for street driven vehicles.
Flameproof Coatings, Titanium, Exotic Welding Techniques, Precision Machining, Metals with memory, all started there, now they make real money in our world, they have adapted it to our uses.
Heck, even in Star Gate SG-1 there was a conglomerate of businessmen that paid people to steal Alien Technology so they could adapt it in a way to be able to sell it pubilcly to make money, not for World Domination. that episode has got to be at least 5 years old.
Gotta make a buck off of it or it sits there as a Show Piece I guess.

Latitude, it's his first paragraph above the one I posted, the one you're commenting on.
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