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« Reply #375 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 3:33pm »

I still find it hard to see where that feature circled in the Ty JJ photo comes from. Also, the plum bob thing in the Ty JJ photo looks different compared to other images. Sure would be nice to see JJ in high resolution.

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« Reply #376 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 4:55pm »

I do not have an answer Nodnunk. There's a lot of stuff in there.


Someone posted this version of the drone rotating sometime back:

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« Reply #377 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 5:02pm »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 3:33pm, Nodnunk wrote:
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I think that is a glint... but when you think it through, where is the light source for it (especially with this "over cast" white sky)?
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« Reply #378 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 8:06pm »

*****THE TRUTH*****
No exif data..

exif data from an imported image, an unedited copy of an imported image, and an edit of an original image. Notice how exif data from a copy saved in photoshop retains the camera information, and also contains an adobe footprint. Also notice how a shooped image removes camera information.

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Original image:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-original.jpg
Copy saved in photoshop:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-copy.jpg
Original edited:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-edited.jpg



Problems fully rendering the images, risky move "shooting" it (really, that's read "shopping" it) above power lines...

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That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lighting or any other natural element (eg - the wind), wires don't wind all over the place or get thinner in spots. Poor attention to detail in a key location will get your busted every time.. case in point.



Sorry guys.

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« Reply #379 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 8:25pm »

Excellent work my dear watson. wink
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« Reply #380 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 9:21pm »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:06pm, CARETbust wrote:
*****THE TRUTH*****
No exif data..

exif data from an imported image, an unedited copy of an imported image, and an edit of an original image. Notice how exif data from a copy saved in photoshop retains the camera information, and also contains an adobe footprint. Also notice how a shooped image removes camera information.

Original image:
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Copy saved in photoshop:
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Original edited:
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Original image:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-original.jpg
Copy saved in photoshop:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-copy.jpg
Original edited:
http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/header-edited.jpg



Problems fully rendering the images, risky move "shooting" it (really, that's read "shopping" it) above power lines...

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That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lighting or any other natural element (eg - the wind), wires don't wind all over the place or get thinner in spots. Poor attention to detail in a key location will get your busted every time.. case in point.



Sorry guys.



A couple of questions for you CB and another observation. What is your original source of this Capitola drone image? Just FYI, the "bulky" looking wire is quite common in fact. It results from a low tension wire or wires (as in cable wire) being wrapped around a supporting guide wire which is the case in the Capitola image you have "busted" here. If you look at the entire image you can easily see this. I am surprised you missed that wink The fact that the "bulky" wire has a section missing IS really sloppy "shooping"....and if you also look at the smaller wires toward the top of the drone, they are on the wrong side of the spike...again missing "wire" segments on both if the drone is supposed to be above the wires. The Capitola image I am looking at is one of the ones I downloaded from one of the UFOC links somewhere in these massive threads. The exif data is only pertinent if you are commenting on the original image of this drone....which only LMH has...and I don't know if she has this one or not, can't recall. That's why I asked where you got the image you analysed. I'm not sure....has someone already said the Capitola images are hoaxed....if so, sorry, but I missed that.
Good job showing us a hack job on this image. Nice info for all on the exif data. Thanks!
The problem is still that none of us have original digital or analogue images to analyse....so all the cgi/lighting/shooping/discussion is nearly pointless. Even if this image is faked, it still does not answer whether the drone craft (only) images are hoaxed, real, disinformation, secret terrestrial (I doubt), extraterrestrial, or models placed in what ever setting you choose. I posted some images from a supposed German local a while back that were obvious fakes.
So....the drone saga drones on..... wink
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« Reply #381 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 02:44am »

on Oct 19th, 2007, 3:21pm, VonStern wrote:
You Smart minds - go for this:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071012160144.htm

The team of mathematicians that first created the mathematics behind the "invisibility cloak" announced by physicists last October has now shown that the same technology could be used to generate an "electromagnetic wormhole."


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I'm calling shenanigans on the reporters of this story. All that's been invented here is a mathematical model showing that 'if a material with property x exists, we could bend emag waves around it in a particular way'.

They're using the good old place-holder of 'meta materials', meaning materials that haven't been invented yet. "It's up to the engineers to invent a working prototype" ---translation---> "This looks good on paper but we can't even imagine if it's possible in the physical world".

It's a neat idea, but I'd say this is a case of the reporter not quite 'getting it', and becoming caught up in the blue-sky possibilities. The comment on the 3D TV was particularly out to lunch - last time I checked, pixels appearing at the end of fixed-length invisible tubes still produce a 2D image...
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« Reply #382 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 02:45am »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:06pm, CARETbust wrote:
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That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lighting or any other natural element (eg - the wind), wires don't wind all over the place or get thinner in spots. Poor attention to detail in a key location will get your busted every time.. case in point.

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« Reply #383 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 04:25am »

I keep forgetting to mention that the word, “Search” is spelled wrong in the forum thread title. smiley

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« Reply #384 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 05:02am »

on Oct 21st, 2007, 02:44am, Fencesitter wrote:
They're using the good old place-holder of 'meta materials', meaning materials that haven't been invented yet. "It's up to the engineers to invent a working prototype" ---translation---> "This looks good on paper but we can't even imagine if it's possible in the physical world".




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial

"Metamaterials have been proposed as a mechanism for building a cloaking device. These mechanisms typically involve surrounding the object to be cloaked with a shell that affects the passage of light near it.[8] Duke University and Imperial College London are currently researching this use of metamaterials and has managed to use metamaterials to cloak an object (in the microwave spectrum) using special concentric rings; the microwaves were barely affected by the presence of the cloaked object.[9] In early 2007, a metamaterial with a negative index of refraction for visible light wavelengths was announced by a joint team of researchers at the Ames Laboratory of the United States Department of Energy and at Karlsruhe University in Germany. The material had an index of -0.6 at 780 nanometers.[10]

Metamaterials have been also proposed for designing agile antennas [11]."

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http://ceta-p5.mit.edu/metamaterials/papers/external/2003/zharov_prl_2003.pdf

"We analyze the properties of microstructured materials with negative refraction, the so- called lefthanded
metamaterials. We consider a two-dimensional periodic structure created by arrays of wires
and split-ring resonators embedded into a nonlinear dielectric, and calculate the effective nonlinear
electric permittivity and magnetic permeability.We demonstrate that the hysteresis-type dependence of
the magnetic permeability on the field intensity allows changing the material properties from left- to
right-handed and back. These effects can be treated as the second-order phase transitions in the
transmission properties induced by the variation of an external field."

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http://www.opticsexpress.org/abstract.cfm?id=86672&CFID=3835983&CFTOKEN=74729834

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« Reply #385 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 09:43am »

Has anyone noticed the symbols on the cube from the transformers movie (it’s covered with them)? This may have been discussed, if so apologize for bringing up old stuff.
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« Reply #386 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 10:58am »

on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:06pm, CARETbust wrote:
*****THE TRUTH*****

Problems fully rendering the images, risky move "shooting" it (really, that's read "shopping" it) above power lines...

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That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lighting or any other natural element (eg - the wind), wires don't wind all over the place or get thinner in spots. Poor attention to detail in a key location will get your busted every time.. case in point.



Sorry guys.



The twisted wires are shown clearer in this other Capitola image with the wires seen against the blue sky. There seem to be three dark wires and one lighter colored wire all twisted together. With the drone in the background, the lighter wire and the drone blend together causing an apparent "rendering problem".

I don't consider this wire issue as evidence for a CGI.

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« Reply #387 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 12:59pm »

I have a question about the May, 2006 Birmingham, Alabama case. Was this sighting only reported to Earthfiles? I've searched the MUFON database and couldn't find it. Also, does anyone know when it was submitted to Earthfiles? Was it in 2006 or after the Chad's C2C debut?
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« Reply #388 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 1:40pm »

on Oct 21st, 2007, 12:59pm, drewlac wrote:
I have a question about the May, 2006 Birmingham, Alabama case. Was this sighting only reported to Earthfiles? I've searched the MUFON database and couldn't find it. Also, does anyone know when it was submitted to Earthfiles? Was it in 2006 or after the Chad's C2C debut?

Nope, it was reported on May 23, 2007 exclusively to LMH (Earthfiles) saying,

"I remembered the device when I saw the photo on Coast to Coast WebPage.” undecided

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on Oct 21st, 2007, 12:59pm, drewlac wrote:
I have a question about the May, 2006 Birmingham, Alabama case. Was this sighting only reported to Earthfiles? I've searched the MUFON database and couldn't find it. Also, does anyone know when it was submitted to Earthfiles? Was it in 2006 or after the Chad's C2C debut?

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1253&category=Environment

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