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« Reply #45 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:00pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 4:44pm, nekitamo wrote:
As it is, UFO Casebook seems to be about quantity, not quality. IMO, what is missing is some way to link each case with its forum topic (or to create one, if it doesn't exist), and also some kind of 'gauge' to indicate the intensity/progress of forum discussion. And when there is enough consensus among forum members (measured by some kind of poll to be used only once, when they reach their verdict), it should somehow reflect back to the case tagging it as 'solved', 'unsolved', 'hoax', etc.

But I'm day dreaming, sorry. smiley


Nekitamo sometimes Quanity is the only quality do you have any suggestions how we might be able to accomplish your proposal I would value your opinion.
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« Reply #46 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:15pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:00pm, Razor wrote:
Nekitamo sometimes Quanity is the only quality do you have any suggestions how we might be able to accomplish your proposal I would value your opinion.

Maybes three or four mods could monitor the UFOCasebook Main Page (I do!!) and every time a story is discussed in the forum, ask BJ to provide a backlink, this would certainly prove beneficial for PageRank and driving visitors to the forum as well as hits to the main site (from the forums.)

I think far and above the most important aspect is one which is unattainable, and that is once an image or report is satisfactorily, “Debunked” ask BJ to edit the respective article to reflect that, but as I say it isn’t going to happen………..

I feel that would be the only way to, “Police” the website but ultimately means BJ relinquishing far too much control over the site and if you look at it from BJ’s point of view, “If it ain’t broke then don’t try to fix it!!”

Plus I feel that Casebook is more of a research tool than a factual medium, this also works quite well (in my opinion) because if every hoax was weeded out instantaneously there would be none for comparative examination, but I agree that some comment should be placed on known hoaxes, but then, what constitutes a hoax and who is in the position to definitively and conclusively call it?
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« Reply #47 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:17pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:00pm, Razor wrote:
Nekitamo sometimes Quanity is the only quality do you have any suggestions how we might be able to accomplish your proposal I would value your opinion.


The board has its own personality which is the collective intelligence of its members, in which, you are a part of Mekitamo any suggestions from you would be welcome.
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« Reply #48 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:30pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 4:44pm, nekitamo wrote:
As it is, UFO Casebook seems to be about quantity, not quality. IMO, what is missing is some way to link each case with its forum topic (or to create one, if it doesn't exist), and also some kind of 'gauge' to indicate the intensity/progress of forum discussion. And when there is enough consensus among forum members (measured by some kind of poll to be used only once, when they reach their verdict), it should somehow reflect back to the case tagging it as 'solved', 'unsolved', 'hoax', etc.

But I'm day dreaming, sorry. smiley


This post got me thinking that all the hard work that has been done needs to be better organized.

One thread for photo analysis, another thread for language and so on and so forth....much of the work that has been done already, might have been forgotten. By compartmentalizing the work, it might be more efficient.....I dont know if it could be done, by one of the mods or another member cutting and pasting to actually re-organize the old posts into new threads for their corresponding subject.

The chit-chat or off topic posts would not need to be included

We might even find out we had overlooked something.

With all of us looking at the info again, this would be bound to happen.

It is up to us, we cant count on LHM, or Isaac...we can do this.

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« Reply #49 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:31pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:00pm, VonStern wrote:
He spoke of turning the picture into "signal waves" , and then I was lost in that conversation.... grin

I did not even know that it actually was possible to transfer pictures into "Waves"....

Maybe it is time to bring up the sound theory once more?

--VonStern


It would imply to me microwave transmission the same as Sateliite tv or cell phone pictures Von Stern but I am not a total expert in that area either.
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« Reply #50 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:34pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:30pm, murnut wrote:
This post got me thinking that all the hard work that has been done needs to be better organized.

One thread for photo analysis, another thread for language and so on and so forth....much of the work that has been done already, might have been forgotten. By compartmentalizing the work, it might be more efficient.....I dont know if it could be done, by one of the mods or another member cutting and pasting to actually re-organize the old posts into new threads for their corresponding subject.

The chit-chat or off topic posts would not need to be included

We might even find out we had overlooked something.

With all of us looking at the info again, this would be bound to happen.

It is up to us, we cant count on LHM, or Isaac...we can do this.

Just a thought


Murnut do we think this would segregate the members too much or allow them to better concentrate on their interest area without distraction?
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« Reply #51 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:40pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:31pm, Razor wrote:
It would imply to me microwave transmission the same as Sateliite tv or cell phone pictures Von Stern but I am not a total expert in that area either.


As stated earlier, it's not really my field, but your input somehow makes it! You're definately onto something here! cheesy

Let's say, that the "barcodes" of the Primer isn't that of sound, as spoken of in here earlier, and presented in a very nice musical way, but of PICTURES!

Now, that should bring out a question for all! How to determine that?

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« Reply #52 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:46pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:40pm, VonStern wrote:
As stated earlier, it's not really my field, but your input somehow makes it! You're definately onto something here! cheesy

Let's say, that the "barcodes" of the Primer isn't that of sound, as spoken of in here earlier, and presented in a very nice musical way, but of PICTURES!

Now, that should bring out a question for all! How to determine that?

--VonStern


Yep you are 100% Von Stern another thing that crossed my mind is if the bar codes are alogrithams that parameters the commands to the drones..I cant say but I am sure at some point an expert in this particular area will step forth and tell us.
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« Reply #53 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 5:55pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:46pm, Razor wrote:
Yep you are 100% Von Stern another thing that crossed my mind is if the bar codes are alogrithams that parameters the commands to the drones..I cant say but I am sure at some point an expert in this particular area will step forth and tell us.


Similar to what, “Elephant” was saying?

“It uses a modulated shape geo program using dynamic energy compiled by a process of atomic geometric shape algorithms.”
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« Reply #54 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 6:17pm »

Actually now that I think about it I read that post and that may be where I heard that/ LOL sorry elephant!!!

Another thing I wanted to point out is I beleive Ashiana as well as myself believe that there are higher wave frequencies that can be transmitted on that are unkown or understood by a mere moratal such as myself. If that helps any guys.
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« Reply #55 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 7:02pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 5:00pm, Razor wrote:
Nekitamo sometimes Quanity is the only quality do you have any suggestions how we might be able to accomplish your proposal I would value your opinion.

Sure. There are free, modular and highly customizable CMS solutions with which you can achieve almost anything these days. For example, check what guys at OM are using for their new site - it's Joomla, one of the most stable and mature CMS solutions available nowadays, customizable through hundreds of extensions and templates. IMO, a good choice, though they are using it in its very basic, 'generic' form. It is also used at the infamous isaaccaret.com with somewhat customised template and an additional Fireboard forum extension.

In fact, I'm quite familiar with Joomla so I can describe precisely how the enhancements I proposed could be implemented - but they were just some simple quick remarks, not fully developed and thought out. Much more thinking would have to be done about them before actual realisation takes place.
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« Reply #56 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 7:32pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 7:02pm, nekitamo wrote:
Sure. There are free, modular and highly customizable CMS solutions with which you can achieve almost anything these days. For example, check what guys at OM are using for their new site - it's Joomla, one of the most stable and mature CMS solutions available nowadays, customizable through hundreds of extensions and templates. IMO, a good choice, though they are using it in its very basic, 'generic' form. It is also used at the infamous isaaccaret.com with somewhat customised template and an additional Fireboard forum extension.

In fact, I'm quite familiar with Joomla so I can describe precisely how the enhancements I proposed could be implemented - but they were just some simple quick remarks, not fully developed and thought out. Much more thinking would have to be done about them before actual realisation takes place.


Thank You Nekitamo I will show your post to the admins as a suggestion for furture development.
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« Reply #57 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 7:44pm »

on Oct 7th, 2007, 2:40pm, VonStern wrote:
Yes, DrDil...Much much more will follow..

No one of you "residents" in here were to blame for my "fast" exit, and I'm sorry if it has caused trouble.

I'll be posting more in a short while, so pay attention! cool

Thanks all, for wanting me to join in again...

--VonStern


Welcome back, friend!!
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« Reply #58 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 7:48pm »

RE: sub discussion about investigative process & earlier comment: "This post got me thinking that all the hard work that has been done needs to be better organized."

I used to spend a lot a time on the Mu site... but there just didn't seem to be good feedback loop & discussion, and the promise of any investigations seemed lost.

I like this site due to the fact ideas and concepts do flow freely, allowing us to help formulate our on concepts of understanding.

But this does yield a Typical Good News / bad news scenerio.
- we get a LOT more input. Some redundant. Some thoroughly flogged with little or no decissive output.
- some missed details worthy of a bit more time / discussion.

While a call for organization is understandable though, I think we should better understand what, if any, investigative organization(s) is(are) available to better research any given topic.

If there were an investigative group that the web forum would consider the focal point, then there would be an opportunity to direct a more organized investigation.

Unfortunately, this concept yields a couple of negatives as well.
1. over control, which stiffles random input.
2. profiteering, which hords data for that next book of enlightenment, which misses the strength of this forum.

A lot of words to basically say: I'm not quite sure what the answer is... but it is basically a function of resources, feet on the ground, and ultimately some cash to support research, lab work, etc.

But two ideas that comes to mind,

One:
more effort to keeping topic focused, moving topic wanderings, like this one smiley & the ones I'm responding too smiley in check

Two:
if key resources (ie a Video or CGI experts) could be identified, then the upper forum hierarchy could prioritize work for review, and allow some level of "authentic expert ruling" to be posted and recognized. And if an item / topic is deemed a hoax for instance, then a moderator could then be allowed to freeze the topic.

But it would also be a responsibility of the moderators to filter the access to the "expert", so he/she is not overwhelmed with random requests...

just my 2 cents

keep up the effort everyone. disclosure someday!
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« Reply #59 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 7:58pm »

rcakron I think its a great idea but as I ask in a previous post does anyone think it would segregate the researchers to Much ?

Hey UFOcatcher it is great to see you someone was asking me about you earlier!!!!
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