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« Reply #615 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 04:31am »

Hi DrDil, and others. Thank you for showing me the chart of UFO shapes and types. I could not click onto the chart but I noted with a pen what I saw. Lines 3 and 4 were closest, especially around F.
I am not sure I will be able to cut and paste the interesting, very similar drone clips in or not. I do not think my spouse has correctly registered our home computer. I have no idea who our server is or anything. I cannot hook up with most links. They ask for information I do not know. I am getting older and am not experienced with computers. Also, the keyboard and prompts for this computer are in French, and it is very challenging to use. When I push the "help" button it all comes up in French. I do speak the language but it's hard for me. Now, someone else asked me about police acitivity in my nabe. Yes, I have mentioned this. Around Thanksgiving weekend, that is to say November 24, a huge drug bust went down in the housing project near where I live. Drug dealing is a big problem here, always has been, and probably always will be (even after they tear down the project in a couple of years and rebuild there). It was about 6:30 pm on a Saturday evening, and I was out, innocently, to get some cash from a cash dispenser and do a little last minute shopping at the local supermarket, as I wanted to make a nice dinner for my spouse. I have a bad back, so once I got down the block, I sat for a moment on the little bench in a bus shelter, before carrying on with my errands. Right in front of me was a little car, and I was annoyed that those people should be illegally parked and blocking a bus stop. They were four young people, who seemed to be waiting for someone. Just then, I looked up, and across the street and in one of the courtyards of the huge housing project was FULL of cops and cop cars, no sirens, blue lights flashing, people in riot gear and batons running around and busting people, en masse. The four young people in the little car in front of me finally noticed what was going down, and panicked. One of the women screamed, "Oh, merde, ils sont pris!" I tried to signal the police, and not getting any reaction from them, I tried to block the car. Over the next five or ten minutes a protracted altercation went on between myself and these four young people. They threatened to kill me and I just laughed and said, "I'd rather be dead than live in a neighborhood full of criminals like you!" I ended up in the hospital and missed 8 days of work. I am not salaried, so this was very hard for me, and my spouse is very angry with me (also about the drones incident!). I have ruptured kneecaps, sprained, cracked ribs, etc.
Over the next few days, I started researching "drones" on the 'Net, and found out that you can already buy a wide array of them from various manufacturers here. Many are extremely tiny, silent, and they fly themselves. They are useful to the police for observing what is going on in peoples' apartments, on rooftops in housing projects, etc.
I am not sure that what I saw on November 17 were drones. Not at all! But given the big drug bust that went down here a week later, it seems to be a possibility.
I am glad I got a neighbor to be a witness.
You have to understand, I am alone here. I never see my spouse, or almost never. I don't speak French very well. I have no friends or family here. I live in a huge apartment tower in a huge city just outside of Paris, and no way do I mingle with or even know my neighbors, except to say "bonjour." I really doubt I will be able to do any kind of follow-up interview with the neighbor lady who was a witness with me. It's just not gonna happen! I don't even know her name. Various Africans occupy that apartment, and forgive me, but they all look alike to me.
People really keep to themselves here. They are not chatty, they do not smile. It's very different from the culture I knew in the USA (I am from Ohio but lived in NYC for about 17 years). No one talks about UFOs, believe me. Nonetheless, I work part time as a language trainer with adult French business professionals, and several of them know about the drones and say they are highly controversial here, because invasion of privacy is a big deal here.
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« Reply #616 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 05:24am »

LDN41's comments and questions are very interesting and thoughtful. Thanks to all of you for your support, questions, thoughts and ideas. I feel much less alone while recovering from a quite bewildering experience on November 17. LDN asked why I was frightened when the objects shimmered. Good question. It was a crystal clear night, and the cold was frightful. You just don't look out your bedroom window and see two UFOs (later, four more) without being nervous, but when they shimmer, the way the highway does on a super-hot day, on such a cold night, THAT makes you nervous. I waved at them, and they started "winking" back at me! Each time I waved, they "winked!" You might say, well, if Slobomition was so scared, why wave at the things? The answer is, I dunno, it was just kind of a hysterical reaction, I suppose. I kept turning my head and trying to blink and "clear" my eyes. I was trying to remember where our little set of binoculars were. (I still haven't found them.) I have always been frustrated in the past when people take shaky videos or photos, or they panic and drop the camera and run, but I am poor and don't have any cameras or anything, and as you know, we do not generally go through our lives thinking, "Oh, maybe I'll meet Bigfoot today! Better be sure my video camera is charged up and operational!" No, that just isn't how life happens. I mean, I had been talking to an old friend on the phone, and I was getting ready to go to bed. I have no idea why I had a hunch that I should look out the window. I just felt that I was being watched! I know, I know, that is SO illogical, right? But I DO have a lot of ESP. I know it, everyone who knows me knows it. People who know me have learned to pay attention to my hunches, and I sure do, too! That does not mean I should run around like a chicken with its head cut off, however. Do I think those could have been stars or planets there that night? YES, it is possible. When ice crystals form in the sky, all sorts of wild things can be seen! But I am pretty familiar with stargazing, I know the constellations as they change in my sky, I know where to look to see planets, I can often identify planets with the naked eye, etc. I've been a member of astronomy clubs, the whole nine yards. The next night and up until now, I now check the sky where I saw those UFOs on September 17, and haven't seen anything like a star or planet around where I saw those six objects. Could I have been drunk? Yes. I'd had a big drink with my dinner a few hours earlier. Could I have had a stroke? Yes. But my neighbor saw them, too! She was sufficiently frightened by what we saw that she went back into her apartment, and I heard her closing all the security shutters (could be she didn't want her kids to see these things and get frightened).
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« Reply #617 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 07:28am »

on Dec 9th, 2007, 4:55pm, slobomotion wrote:
What I saw on November 17 did not look like Isaac's drones. The ones I saw were smaller and bell-shaped. I wish I knew how to add the YouTube clip I recently saw to this forum, but I don't know how. I was so curious, I looked through lots of drone sightings and got more and more disappointed until bingo, I saw an old video from 1975, in broad daylight, of three silent, hovering bell-shaped metallic type drones, and two of them were demonstrating their invisibility feature. THOSE were 99.99% like what I saw.


slobomotion... if you send me the title of the You Tube, I will post it for you. smiley


BTW DrDil, congrats! But it sounds like more work to me. grin
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« Reply #618 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 07:55am »

I shall now try to paste in the YouTube clip which is very, very like what I saw on November 17, although my sighting took place at night. Hope it works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEgPR61b_9Y
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« Reply #619 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 07:59am »

Hi, Marvin! Thanks for your offer! My spouse was just here and I was able to ask for some technical assistance with adding the clip. First time I've ever done such a thing, and I dunno if I can ever do it again. As I've said, I am not adept with computers, and our 'puter is all in French. The keyboard and software are in French and while I can figure out some of the prompts, I am often very confused by the actual hardware itself. It's so embarrassing! I am 50 years old and have an MBA. I had to learn computer programming, but that was years ago, and doesn't seem to be of much use to me at this point. Believe it or not, I taught an English class at University level here in Paris four years ago, about the history of computers. This was easy, as I'd had to learn all that stuff before. My students were all tekkies and looked at me as if I were a dinosaur, which I am, but when I started to ask them basic questions, such as "what is a parity bit?" they were stumped. Have a good day, everyone!
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« Reply #620 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 09:49am »

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You might find this interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier

http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/ufo/billy_meier_smoking_gun.htm

The You Tube you linked, is one of Billy Meier's videos. Personally, I would not classify the craft in his photos as "drone" but I will let you be the judge.

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« Reply #621 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 2:59pm »

Hi, Marvin. I am very tired and will go to bed shortly, but I want to thank you for your contact. I was pretty surprised that the clip I saw was from Billy. I thank everyone concerned in this forum for their contact with me, because we, the ordinary people, need some help when we have weird experiences. I think the Billy materials shouldn't be thrown out, but based on all the evidence, they should be seen as questionable. And that is a good thing. Everything should be questioned. I appreciate the questions already given to me by other forum particpants. Here is what I think: Did I see a weird diffraction of light on November 17? Possibly. But I had a witness. She is there, even though in everyday life I could not realistically expect her to respond to further questioning. Did I make all this up to promote any agenda? No, I am just a person, an ordinary person. Could it have been Northern Lights or difraction of light? YES. Could I have been hysterical? Yes, but I have a witness, and she saw it too, and if I "created it" from my psyche, that is something in and of itself that deserves looking into. Look, people, despite the sad conditions of my life, I am not in UFO CASEBOOK to jerk people around or try to get any sort of sympathy or attention. Think: I'd be much better off just looking at the various postings and getting a kick out of all that. But I did see something weird on November 17. If this was a UFO sighting, this would be only the fourth experience of this kind in my life, and I am 50, and have lived on two continents. I respect all the people who participate in this forum. I have posted few times, and have looked around in all the postings, and have criticized only one person or persons in all this time. Here is what I think: I did see something. My neighbor saw it too. It looked like a classic flying saucer thingie to us both. Could it have been northern lights? Yeah, it could have. Was it just my imagination or my desire to post crap? No, as I could produce, if necessary, an impartial witness. What I saw may have been toys floating in the sky. If so, they were about the size of an automobile. That makes me angry. Who would put such things up there, on a calm Saturday night in Paris, France? Did I imagine they were winking at me? That could be, cuz I have a very vivid imagination. Could they have been drones? Possible, because the police did a big bust in my nabe about a week later. But I swear, they were like the UOFs in the clip I shared with you all. And they did seem to be winking at me. And I did have lost time. And I had had a big drink of alcohol that evening, but I was not drunk. Was I paranoid before, based on a telephone conversation? Yeah, I was. I really, really, really think I saw some drones. I don't know if they were from the French police or little green men, I dunno! I just wish it had never happened. I thank God, however, that this forum exists, because it provides a means for me to record my experience. I apologize again to the Forum person who I blew off a couple of days ago, but hopefully this person will understand I am paranoid now, and also, I hate Google translators. I welcome continuing input from you people, and I am willing to put this matter to rest, but dammit, I saw something weird in the skies on November 17, and I have no personal gain involved in any of this. I do wish the best to all the rest of you out there and wish I could treat you all to a fine cup of delicious hot chocolate and a few strong cigarettes here in Paris, and I encourage all of of you around the world to keep looking at the skies and to keep noting what you see, and to share it with others. If we have neutral or good intentions, there is no shame in it. I do not care to openly share my identity, but I am correctly registered in this Forum and will say who I am if need be. Again, I apologize for brushing off the last person who asked me to link up with local French people, but he or she indicated that they were not actually in France, had been asked to check things out, and were using Google translator, and I spooked. Those translators never work!
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« Reply #622 on: Dec 10th, 2007, 6:18pm »

Hi again Slobomotion,

I think that you are referring to a, “Drone” in the widely recognized sense of the word, i.e. as unmanned aircraft, known variously as "Drones", "Remotely piloted vehicles (RPV’s)", "Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV’s)” and now, “Miniature UAV’s” (MAV’s). The French Ministry of Defence (DGA) are famous for MAV’s, the, "Mirador" was a fixed-wing, propeller-driven aircraft 25 centimetres (10 inches) long!!

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It’s just that these days on most UFO Related forums if you mention the word, “Drone” the recent UFO Flap is the first thing the members will think of, more so on this thread as this is the kind of Drone that the title refers to. Funny enough after reading your account last night, I cropped a picture of one of Meiers' Beamships to see if that’s what you were referring to, the only reason I didn’t post it was I’m fairly sure that there has never been three of them captured at the same time (most would argue it’s as he only made the one model). Anyway as it was one of his crafts you were referring to, here it is:

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Regarding: “I do not think my spouse has correctly registered our home computer. I have no idea who our server is or anything. I cannot hook up with most links. They ask for information I do not know. I am getting older and am not experienced with computers. Also, the keyboard and prompts for this computer are in French, and it is very challenging to use. When I push the "help" button it all comes up in French. I do speak the language but it's hard for me.”

It’s not as bad as you think, if you let me know which Operating System (OS) you are using, e.g. (if windows ME, XPHome, XPPro etc.) then I will be able to help you, unfortunately with most OS’s if French is chosen as the primary language then you can’t change it to English, the language packs that are available are for software rather than OS’s and won’t change the language of the prompts. (You can do it, but it requires a reinstall and an OEM disc is required.)

But if you let me know what OS you have then you can still swap the keyboard from an, “AZERTY” layout to a, “QWERTY” layout, and it takes less than a minute. (Then you can place little stickers over the keys that are different, e.g. a, “Q” sticker on the, “A” key etc.) Do you know/use the keyboard shortcuts? Just PM me if any help is required.

In the meantime, if you print this picture out (click on text) it shows you which keystroke corresponds to what letter on the French keyboard.


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« Reply #623 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 06:07am »

I know that now may not be a good time with all the other chat about French activity.

But I was reading through my copy of the CARET documents and thought it would be interesting to know what FONT was used to create the document. This lead me to consider if there was a "FONT spotter" tool where you could scan a page and have the software tell you what font was unsed in the document.

This may help authenticate the document in terms of when it was written....MAY!

I don't know a whole heap about fonts but there would have been a short list of fonts available back in 1986 before the advent of the modern PC era and the CARENT document would have to use a font from that era to be considered real.

Just a thought.

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PS: a quick google search on forensic/font/scan/identifcation did not turn anything up.
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on Dec 11th, 2007, 06:07am, Xeroid wrote:
I know that now may not be a good time with all the other chat about French activity.

But I was reading through my copy of the CARET documents and thought it would be interesting to know what FONT was used to create the document. This lead me to consider if there was a "FONT spotter" tool where you could scan a page and have the software tell you what font was unsed in the document.

This may help authenticate the document in terms of when it was written....MAY!

I don't know a whole heap about fonts but there would have been a short list of fonts available back in 1986 before the advent of the modern PC era and the CARENT document would have to use a font from that era to be considered real.

Just a thought.

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PS: a quick google search on forensic/font/scan/identifcation did not turn anything up.


Hi Xeroid,

Try these...

http://www.identifont.com/identify.html

http://www.fontexpert.com/feforme.htm

http://ilovetypography.com/2007/08/19/identify-that-font/

http://desktoppub.about.com/od/identifyafont/How_to_Identify_a_Font.htm
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« Reply #625 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 08:25am »

Seems I should sharpen up my search skills, excellent work there Marvin smiley

Ok after a quick test of a sample of PACL text from the front cover page, the results are interesting yet inconclusive. As has been the case with this whole saga, nothing found to say HA! got you angry...just another example of perfect creation of a document with fonts that are aged well and used often if we can believe the font tester.

From what I can see, it did a top job spotting the font and multiple hits with the very popular font called: Franklin Gothic.

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A little info on the font:
http://www.myfonts.com/products/linotype/franklin-gothic-cd/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Gothic

Interestinh stuff, I might try another section tomorrow, it's late here.

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« Reply #626 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 08:54am »

I wanted to at least test the body of the document and had these results. After studying the font I noticed the G and H are very unusual so clipped a jpeg test file with those characters and came up with another old and popular font called Palation.

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results- check the H it has a little flick on the outside toe that goes outwards and not on the inside....if that makes sense.
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on Dec 3rd, 2007, 05:20am, VonStern wrote:
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December Issue:

http://vonstern.homepage.dk/Magazine.html

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Thanks VS, for another interesting perspective on our Electric Universe....how many parts are there to this series? I have only looked briefly, but have found no other significant counterparts to the one you posted. Hope all is well smiley

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« Reply #628 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 12:31pm »

First.....DrD....congrats on the new elevated status!
I agree with your take on the new "sighting" by Mr. S....a couple of curious observations (which I'm certain occurred to you also). If he is looking out the same window that he was looking out from his bed...why couldn't he see ithuh He would have had a less limited view when at the window. He could have easily duplicated the bed viewing angle when at the window....unless clouds just happened to obscure the "drone" when at the window......seen only from the bed....makes me lean more toward a less-than-conscious experience. Also his perception that it was "enormous" when initially further away and then seemed to be less huge as it seemingly moved closer to his house does not exactly make sense either. Does not sound like his wife saw anything. Not sure what he actually experienced undecided Just another "drone" dud huh
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« Reply #629 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 12:55pm »

on Dec 11th, 2007, 06:07am, Xeroid wrote:
But I was reading through my copy of the CARET documents and thought it would be interesting to know what FONT was used to create the document. This lead me to consider if there was a "FONT spotter" tool where you could scan a page and have the software tell you what font was unsed in the document.

This may help authenticate the document in terms of when it was written....MAY!

I don't know a whole heap about fonts but there would have been a short list of fonts available back in 1986 before the advent of the modern PC era and the CARENT document would have to use a font from that era to be considered real.



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