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« Reply #630 on: Dec 11th, 2007, 2:10pm »

Here is my DRONE "non-update" of my attempts to get to interview the possible drone witness in Tomball, TX: HELP NEEDED!!!

After many e-mail exchanges with Peter Davenport at NUFORC....I have had no more replies from him to my last several e-mails going back many weeks now. I don't know if he ever contacted the witness or not. Since I was an "unknown quantity" to Peter, he wanted to involve a MUFON investigator....as he has a relationship with MUFON. I told him I was pretty sure MUFON was no longer interested, as they thought it was probably a hoax.....at least this is the last thing I heard.
If anyone here at casebook knows Peter, I would really appreciate a good word.
My only intention is to get an unbiased report from the witness along with a drawing of what he saw (protecting their identity, of course). After which I will would show him some of the drone images to see if that is what he saw or not. If the witness does want to do the interview, that's fine too, but it would be nice for a change for one us here who has followed the drone saga from last May forward to actually be able to interview someone directly......whether it turns out to be a drone craft or not. Any help is appreciated. Sorry for the long delay in reporting back undecided
As many of you know, when working alone (by choice in my case) everything is more of a struggle.....but we can't give up, no matter the outcome.
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« Reply #631 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 12:02am »

Hi Cogent:

I have had phone conversations with Peter Davenport and my opinion is that Peter is not an easy person to talk with.

Peter likes his own ideas best. If you bring up a topic that he does not 'own' he can be rather skeptical.

To get along with Peter one has to 'go along' with him.

I sort of gave up on Peter for the time being. But I suppose he is a nice person if you really get to know him.

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« Reply #632 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 05:26am »

on Dec 11th, 2007, 12:11pm, Cogent1 wrote:
Thanks VS, for another interesting perspective on our Electric Universe....how many parts are there to this series? I have only looked briefly, but have found no other significant counterparts to the one you posted. Hope all is well smiley



Hi Cogent1. Some videos was removed by YT. I have edited my page so it only hold this Documentary:

Ancient Aliens

It's in 5 parts on YT.

Thank you for bringing it to my knowledge.

There are updates here as well:

http://vonstern.homepage.dk/Science.html

http://vonstern.homepage.dk/Paranormal.html

Merry Christmas,

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« Reply #633 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 12:29pm »

Hello, everyone. I just wanted to explain why this ended up in the "drones" section. Awhile after my sighting on November 17, 2007 here in Saint-Denis, France, I talked to my spouse, looked around a lot on the 'Net, and mentioned this event to some of my trainees. One of them asked me if I knew about "drones" here in France, and I said, no, not really, I know what a drone is, but, no. She said they are used here, and will be used more, and are controversial due to privacy issues. She gave me a link to check, and then, due to my various 'Net searches, I found the clip (now known to me to be associated with the Billy Meier thing, which I had heard about years ago) and wow, THAT was so much like what I saw! I've had nearly a month to absorb all of this, and here are some of my thoughts.
The sighting was frightening. I was scared. I think I may have gone into a state of hysteria during this episode. I am happy that I calmly summoned a neighbor to come and be a witness, and she saw the two UFOs, also, and agreed with me they looked strange. Another member has suggested I may have projected these UFOs, meaning created them with my consciousness. I have read up on this, too, and I think it is possible. I was certainly in a paranoid state of mind due to a long long-distance phone call I'd just had, about The Montauk Project. The "hunch" I had that I was being watched, well, that could be just plain old paranoia, home alone on a cold Saturday night and all. I went to the bedroom window because I had planned to go to bed fairly soon after, and also because I wanted a little fresh air, and because I enjoy looking at the sky, night or day. Could the two craft I saw have been planets or stars, weirdly diffracted in the frosty night sky? Yes. But I remind everyone, that even though I am no expert, I have been a starwatcher for years, and have seen many spectacular displays and anomalies. These two craft were nothing like what I had seen before. They were each the size of about a "Smart" car, but it was and is very hard for me to judge the distance. They seemed to be producing light. They seemed to "wink" at me, and not as stars and planets do sometimes. I also want to say that I live near Le Bourget airport and also see some flight paths to and from CDG Roissy airport, and have seen some odd things over the years, but nothing like THIS. After the neighbor left, and I was unable to get another neighbor to come look (she had kids to look after), I looked again out my window, and saw the two original craft, still there, hovering silently and winking sometimes when I waved at them, but also four other things to the East of them. I started to get truly frightened at this point, because the four other things looked like small points of light that also stretched sometimes to look like rods or bars. The whole "picture" also had an odd, shaky, blurry feel to it. I began to feel very disoriented. The more I tried to focus on the six objects, the harder it became to see them clearly. Could this have been a sickness, such as a mild stroke? Possibly. I am not in great health. I've seen a few doctors since then, have been checked out, and I am fairly okay, I guess. I also had my eyes checked this year and have new glasses. I wish my spouse had been home to witness this with me! We saw an amazing display of UFOs here in Saint-Denis in March, 2002, and he no longer scoffs at the concept. (Many other people saw these things, too, that night, but there was no media coverage of it at all.)
I only began to think they may have been drones after I was assaulted during a police operation in my neighborhood a week later. There is an ongoing problem with drug dealers working in a housing project across the street, a problem of many years, and it is possible I saw some drones which were being used for surveillance purposes. Perhaps my phone call about The Montauk Project had also been picked up on. I was on the phone for about two hours, lost the connection oddly a few times, and could have been listened to and "checked out." I don't know. I wish to repeat, thank you everyone for the respect you have all treated me with, and the kindness. I am usually pretty outspoken, but this weird sighting was scary and I really hesitated to make it public. I am now glad I did. By the way, I would have called the police, but do not know how to do that here, as we've changed phone services this year, and the police here change their phone number sometimes. I also feel that my French would not have been good enough for me to accurately convey the fact that I was being frightened by "ovnis," and that they may have come, told me to go to bed, and left, sending me a bill later (they do that here -- up to three hundred euros is not unheard of!). Sometimes, when I am stressed, I freeze up and can barely speak French. Other times, when stressed, I am completely fluent! Depends. (I find French quite a difficult language, and learning it from near-scratch in middle age has been QUITE a challenge!) Oh, someone asked me about my OS. I think it is Microsoft XP, but not a very new version. Also, I do not need to change my keyboard to QWERTY, as I relearned the AZERTY keyboard here and am now comfortable with that. The reinstalling of the software might be a problem, as my spouse is French mother-tongue and really doesn't want English-language software on the home 'puter. Okay, everyone, thanks again for the kindness you have shown me, and AGAIN, my apologies for blowing off an offer to connect with a French group. I wouldn't be able to communicate with them very well, I fear.
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« Reply #634 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 12:49pm »


Kewl.

Thanks for sharing your story.

So things are just as weird there, as here. Okay.


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« Reply #635 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 2:41pm »

Drone Sighting from Whitleys Journal @ UnknownCountry.com

A Most Complex Encounter (Tuesday December 11th, 2007)


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At 4:53 in the morning on Friday, December 7, I saw a strange object over Santa Monica, California. This was fantastic enough, but the events that preceded the sighting were almost certainly a contact experience. If so, it was the first I have had in years.

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Almost every night, I wake up between three and four in a state of fear, something that has now been happening to me since my close encounter in December of 1985. But this was special, and it was powerful, and very unusual, as you will see.

I woke up at 4:53 because somebody was clutching two fingers of my right hand, which had been dangling off the bed. Anne was asleep on the other side of the bed.

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Gliding straight toward the house at what must have been a low altitude was a very complex object that must have been very similar to the 'drones' that were photographed by a number of people last summer. The thing was moving right under and in the cloud cover. It was stormy and the clouds were racing, but the object had a stately, gliding motion that was totally unaffected by the weather.

My immediate thought was that it was a drone. I could not see any of the upper structures that are visible in some of the pictures, but only the body of the thing as it glided toward me. It was not far away at all, maybe just a few hundred feet.

As I got out of bed, I said to Anne, "there's a drone outside the window." We both got up. As I crossed the room to the windows, I grabbed my cellphone in hope of taking a picture. But when we looked out, we could see only the low, rushing clouds.

After a couple of minutes staring at a thickening in the clouds and wondering if that was the object, I went back to bed.

As soon as I put my head on the pillow, I could see the object again, this time moving west toward the ocean. I grabbed the cellphone and woke Anne up again. We rushed to the window and once again saw nothing.

When I lay down again, I could see the object. I finally realized that it was the angle that was enabling me to see the thing, and I went for the cellphone while still lying in the bed. But at that moment, the thing moved beyond the edge of the window, and I never saw it again at any angle.

The most prominent thing that I saw was a white circle on a rectangular object heading directly toward me. It looked exactly like part of one of the pictures taken over Big Basin in Northern California last summer. I have included a clip of what I saw. The only difference is that the circle was facing directly toward me.

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At about two, I started awake and felt as if I was not going to be able to get back to sleep. So I got up and decided to work. I wrote a few emails, then decided to meditate. I don't often do this in the middle of the night. But this time, when I did it, the sensation was remarkably powerful. I felt as if I could sense much more than my physical body, as if my nerves didn't end in my skin, but extended around me like a living electric field. It was a delightful, wonderful sensation and I stayed there until about three.

This time, the moment my head hit the pillow, I was asleep. At once, I found myself in a really, really peculiar state. The moment I fell asleep, I had a dream that Anne had inexplicably, but out of the kindness of her heart, let a pack of feral dogs into the house, and they were all under the bed.

I was startled awake by this, and went back toward the living room--and was confronted with what was just about the surprise of my life. It almost beat waking up among the visitors on December 26, 1985.

What I saw was a completely different living room. I was in another house, and it was a very strange one, with four large artificial trees in it, of all things. I turned around to go back to the bedroom, only to find that there was a wall there, and a hallway leading off in the opposite direction.

I was shocked, to put it mildly. Then horrified. I couldn't get out of there. I couldn't get back where I belonged.

Then I was in bed again, and aware that I was asleep, and not only that but I was dreaming about the lives of five different Whitley Striebers unfolding in five parallel universes at the same time, one of which was the one I was in.

While this was happening, the five of them were distinct, and I was inside five different selves at once. There was no confusion, and I wasn't on the outside looking in. I was in these lives, living them, all at the same time. I wasn't in the least confused by this. It seemed extraordinary, of course, but also perfectly possible.

In four of these lives, Anne was also present, but not in the fifth, and that was a life I very much wanted to leave. In it, I was walking down a path with a small boy, toward a quay where there were a number of men. The quay was on a pellucid bay, its water an exquisite turquoise-green color. It was daytime in this universe, midday. In this universe, Anne had died of her stroke, and I was walking with my grandson, who was about three.

In another, Anne and I lived in my old family home in San Antonio. It was very worn and run down, and she was bravely trying to clean the kitchen. We were obviously very poor, and clinging to what once had been fine. Here, it was late afternoon.

In a third, we were living together and in an apartment. We were asleep in this universe, and the dogs were under the bed. It was in this universe that the fingers had grasped my hand and were tugging at it.

When I woke up and went to the window, it might well have been in this other universe, which was a close approximation to the one I am living in now. But, to tell the truth, since that night, I don't feel all that fixed anywhere. I am not sure where I am, only that my life is unfolding.

The fourth universe was the one where the trees were in the living room. They were decorative, and the fashion, I was aware, had been adopted from pictures from another world. What was so exciting here was that TV transmissions from another planet were being picked up and rebroadcast by SETI, and they were a gigantic sensation.

This all ended with the yanking on my hand, the awakening at 4:53 and the observation of the drone outside the window.

So this experience actually crossed waking and dream. The first time I got out of bed and walked into the living room and saw the trees, I was wide awake and actually moving across realities physically. Then, when I slept and dreamed, the realities unfolded around me. When I saw the drone, I was possibly in yet another universe, different from this one.

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To read the full account then check out Whitley’s journal entry for the 11th December.

In the meantime I’ll leave you with a true pearl of wisdom from Mr Strieber (and one that he goes on to answer in the journal entry).
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So the logical question, at least to me, is this: how could anyone even write such far-fetched nonsense, let alone believe that it really happened?

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« Reply #636 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 2:48pm »


This posting is in the WRONG PLACE.

It belongs in the Inter-Dimensional thread. He's doing parallel realities, that's all.

Perfectly understandable.

Right?


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« Reply #637 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 3:23pm »

on Dec 12th, 2007, 2:48pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
This posting is in the WRONG PLACE.

It belongs in the Inter-Dimensional thread. He's doing parallel realities, that's all.

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Cheers Shech, but I think I’ll leave it here as the parallel realities he mentions seem to be a sleep induced, dream-state precursor to his Drone sighting.

In fact to a more cynical reader, the parallel reality could be considered a disclaimer of sorts, i.e.

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“The first time I got out of bed and walked into the living room and saw the trees, I was wide awake and actually moving across realities physically. Then, when I slept and dreamed, the realities unfolded around me. When I saw the drone, I was possibly in yet another universe, different from this one.”

In short he doesn’t discount the fact that his Drone sighting occurred in a different reality/universe, ultimately making it impossible to substantiate that any of this occurred outside of the confines of his mind, let alone in a reality as we know it.

(Who knows, perhaps you and I are simultaneously discussing this in another reality, another universe, another forum and on the, “Inter-Dimensional thread.” wink)
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« Reply #638 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 3:50pm »

Hi Xeroid, as well as the link that Nodnunk posted there was quite a bit of research done into the font at OMF just after the Isaac documents were released, I’ll see if I can find the link for you.

Thanks for the kind words Cogent1 & Marvin. Unfortunately I haven’t any contact with Peter Davenport nor know of anybody who has, and it sounds like Urantia was admirably diplomatic in the explanation of his experiences with him.

Regarding Whitley’s sighting, I had a feeling it would not be as cut and dried as simply, "another UFO sighting," so I didn’t cast an overly analytical eye over his account, but I too had similar questions.

It has since transpired that the entire experience could well have been in an alternate universe..............
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« Reply #639 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 4:11pm »

on Dec 12th, 2007, 3:50pm, DrDil wrote:
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« Reply #640 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 4:26pm »

Dr. Dil, I was kidding.

I can always refer somebody here to see this posting because it's right up my alley; but it's a Drones topic so it goes >here<

Please don't take me so literally, Luv.


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« Reply #641 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 5:29pm »

Thanks CB peeps. Finally a place that has it's collective head screwed on properly. I'm really ticked off by this Whitley so called sighting. He's either part of the "plan" or he's simply trying tell sell more of his esoteric books.
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« Reply #642 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 5:34pm »


Maybe so, maybe not.

Maybe he's just "way far out there," like some of us.

I have had NOT DISSIMILAR experiences; it's no big deal.


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« Reply #643 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 5:47pm »

on Dec 12th, 2007, 5:34pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
Maybe so, maybe not.

Maybe he's just "way far out there," like some of us.

I have had NOT DISSIMILAR experiences; it's no big deal.


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Maybe I never understood his place in ufology. I guess we won't be seeing him up on the panel with Fife and Fox. I'm not ready for this side of the subject. Neither is the rest of the world.
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« Reply #644 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 5:51pm »


I don't try to testify to what the rest of the world does or doesn't need.

I just keep my nose to the grindstone, that's all.


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