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« Reply #675 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 07:00am »

Any idea if this may be related to the drones? Towards the end of the 4:19 sec clip the object transforms. Some help translating the dialogue may be useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KervfF5aDhk

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« Reply #676 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 07:59am »

Interesting find, indeed it changes its shape towards the end. Is that what all that yelling is about?
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A strange object that will light of day, crossed the sky in the northern part of Sao Paulo, in the neighborhood of Garden Brasil.Isto occurred during the time that we spoke a lot in such a "chupa Goat." See that no one can say that it is a balloon, he, in his path makes some attempts to keep open its 12 claws, so far, as saying that the police - "has exito"
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« Reply #677 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 12:19pm »

It all depends on what path this object took. The description says it crossed the sky. That to me may describe a balloon. Were going to need much more information to speculate further. BTW, I don't see any drone characteristics in this. IMO too many people are looking for drones in every ufo sighting.
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« Reply #678 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 2:30pm »

What do you mean with "drone characteristics"?

IMO calling something "a drone" is not about its shape, but about it being "manned" or not. If it seems "unmanned", why not...
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« Reply #679 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 9:05pm »

on Dec 26th, 2007, 2:30pm, nekitamo wrote:
What do you mean with "drone characteristics"?

IMO calling something "a drone" is not about its shape, but about it being "manned" or not. If it seems "unmanned", why not...


Well, strictly speaking you are correct. What I meant by "drone characteristics" is that it shares characteristics of the California Drones. Like the wires sticking out the top or the toroidal rings or the thin asymmetric arms. I can see none of those in this video. But who knows? Maybe if we had a closer view.
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« Reply #680 on: Dec 26th, 2007, 9:25pm »

on Dec 26th, 2007, 07:59am, nekitamo wrote:
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I am not so sure it is changing shape. On edge, the upper section will appear more disk like until it passes over, reveling the true nature of the spikes. It appears to be the angle of view, that is critical to the shape we see.

I am not seeing a connection to the “Drones”… at least not by morphology.
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« Reply #681 on: Dec 28th, 2007, 03:58am »

on Dec 26th, 2007, 9:25pm, Marvin wrote:
I am not so sure it is changing shape. On edge, the upper section will appear more disk like until it passes over, reveling the true nature of the spikes. It appears to be the angle of view, that is critical to the shape we see.

It does seem like it changes shape, but it's hard to tell for sure. Here's a stabilized and slightly enlarged version by spf33:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z2tkh59FISM

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I am not seeing a connection to the “Drones”… at least not by morphology.

Although we've learned that drones are modular and come in many different configurations (including some with "spikes"), you seem to dismiss this one so easily. Why? Do you know better?

Sorry if this "desecrates the holly Drones" topic for some of you, but IMO this subject deserves some research. I'm following the drones case since its beginning and it has gathered/educated quite a few skilled and independent researchers here and at some other forums. There's been such scrutiny and reaching for straws so remote to the actual topic that becker44's mentioning of this case should be nothing out of the ordinary here.

What happened, have you lost the spirit of early days? However, at least the aforementioned body of researchers was informed about this case, so they can pursue it elsewhere if it's not welcome here.
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« Reply #682 on: Dec 28th, 2007, 10:27am »

on Dec 28th, 2007, 03:58am, nekitamo wrote:
Although we've learned that drones are modular and come in many different configurations (including some with "spikes"), you seem to dismiss this one so easily. Why? Do you know better?

Sorry if this "desecrates the holly Drones" topic for some of you, but IMO this subject deserves some research. I'm following the drones case since its beginning and it has gathered/educated quite a few skilled and independent researchers here and at some other forums. There's been such scrutiny and reaching for straws so remote to the actual topic that becker44's mentioning of this case should be nothing out of the ordinary here.

What happened, have you lost the spirit of early days? However, at least the aforementioned body of researchers was informed about this case, so they can pursue it elsewhere if it's not welcome here.


I think it's safe to say the we are very interested in this new "spikey" ufo. I don't think anybody has lost their spirit to search for the truth of the drones. The fact that we are scrutinizing this new sighting shows that we are very interested. I welcome anything you bring to this forum. You have always shown a good balance in your objectivity. The fact that some of us so far see no resemblance to the California drones does not diminish it one bit. Surely there are many different types of UFOs from what I believe to be many different sources. There are probably multiple sources that use "drones". Nobody has ever proven that the Alabama drone is related to the Cali-drones. It is very evident however, that the Chad, Raj, Shirley, Tahoe, Steven, Ty and Isaac drones are from the same source.

If anybody can show why this new object is related to the cali-drones, please feel free to point it out. I for one would welcome such research.

You are so correct that a few are very guilty of grasping for straws. It pains me when I see it and think it is nothing but obfuscation.
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« Reply #683 on: Dec 28th, 2007, 11:39am »

I for one can not help but wonder why ( if this 'drone' has been seen many times by the person who took the photos ) haven't they submitted any video or sound bytes of it? Instead, only a series of photos taken over a period of days/weeks/months. It raises my suspicions as to any authenticity of this thing being real. I hope I am proven wrong though.
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« Reply #684 on: Dec 28th, 2007, 8:52pm »

on Dec 28th, 2007, 11:39am, motorcyclerick wrote:
I for one can not help but wonder why ( if this 'drone' has been seen many times by the person who took the photos ) haven't they submitted any video or sound bytes of it? Instead, only a series of photos taken over a period of days/weeks/months. It raises my suspicions as to any authenticity of this thing being real. I hope I am proven wrong though.


Hi Rick,

If you knew the details of the sighting(s), you would already have the answer to your question. It has been wondered before why Chad was not the one to get video. He would have been to only one who would have had the chance. But there may even be a reason that he don't yet know. It seems that Chad did not even own a camera.
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« Reply #685 on: Dec 29th, 2007, 06:01am »

Sorry to be off-topic, but this is very compelling:

http://realufos.blogspot.com/2007/12/finally-full-footage-comes-out-from.html
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Hi Rick,

If you knew the details of the sighting(s), you would already have the answer to your question. It has been wondered before why Chad was not the one to get video. He would have been to only one who would have had the chance. But there may even be a reason that he don't yet know. It seems that Chad did not even own a camera.

Yes latitude, I am sorry, but the reports here are both numerous and scattered over the web and difficult to find, and I am new also and may not know all that you, and others here, know. I have also seen your '2nd drone video' and would like to know more about the pix in it that appear after the 'explanation' title. To learn and find out everything I can about these 'drones' is my goal now, and any help or 'nudge' in the right direction would be greatly appreciated from anyone, thanks.
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« Reply #687 on: Dec 29th, 2007, 07:17am »

on Dec 29th, 2007, 06:27am, motorcyclerick wrote:
The reports here are both numerous and scattered over the web and difficult to find, and I am new also and may not know all that you, and others here, know. I have also seen your '2nd drone video' and would like to know more about the pix in it that appear after the 'explanation' title. To learn and find out everything I can about these 'drones' is my goal now, and any help or 'nudge' in the right direction would be greatly appreciated from anyone, thanks.

Hi motorcyclerick,

I compiled a .PDF document with all of the Drone sightings, images and accounts, download it here, for a direct link, click here, or if you don’t have Adobe, you can view it online by clicking here (although the embedded links don’t work if you view it online at the last link).

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« Reply #688 on: Dec 29th, 2007, 10:04am »

on Dec 29th, 2007, 07:17am, DrDil wrote:
Hi motorcyclerick,

I compiled a .PDF document with all of the Drone sightings, images and accounts, download it here, for a direct link, click here, or if you don’t have Adobe, you can view it online by clicking here (although the embedded links don’t work if you view it online at the last link).

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Wow! Very little these days tends to scare me, but if even a portion of this pdf report is true...well, it certainly confirms more then a few of my own life-long suspicions, especially the one where I have always thought that we are 'monkeys tampering with dynamite' when it comes to even beginning to understand the environment in which we exist. Thanks for the email, DrDil, and if exposing this thing is what is needed, then let's 'pull back the curtain and see if we cant meet the wizard'.
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« Reply #689 on: Dec 29th, 2007, 12:53pm »

Of course, it will take me time to verify any of this amazing recent clip about what seems to me to be the famous Rendelsham incident. Astonishing. Why isn't mass media on to this? Can anyone advise me as to how to contact the media? It was easy enough for me in the States, but I live in Europe now and am sluggish at the native tongue (French) and wouldn't know how to assert myself.
BTW, a business contact recently offered to put me semi-directly in touch with a French woman who has been doing UFO reasearch here for years, and a lot on drones. I have to check this out further before I take the plunge. I am not sure who the heck this woman is.
Please recall, everyone, I had an experience on November 17, 2007 here in Saint-Denis, France, which MAY have been a drone incident.
I am struck by what this guy said in the clip: "They seemed to be winking at me . . . like an eye . . . " That is what I saw! When I waved at them, they blinked back! When I contacted them with my thoughts, they blinked back! If I was hallucinatory, you gotta credit me for being inventive. It was better than a Hollywood movie, 'cept for the fact that it scared me, and my impartial witness. Eek!
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