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« Reply #840 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 11:47am »

on Mar 5th, 2008, 6:35pm, Latitude wrote:
Another showed up on Mufon. This time in Michigan.



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Nice find, Lat. Looks similar in shape to the Oregon photo also from MUFON submission. I will do a quick photo-analysis later and post what I find. Very interesting indeed! Cheers.
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« Reply #841 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 12:00pm »

I have applied a TV documentary link on VonStern Magazine. It's about how Time is slightly faster in Space than here on Earth. Very interesting, don't miss it:

Space-Time VS Earth Time/Gravity Influences Time!

Look to the bottom of the page:

http://vonstern.homepage.dk/Magazine.html

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Ps: Very interesting new pictures - if real we sure are dealing with the same tech as the "Isaac" drones. Might just be same source, only the usage may differ. (Just like Our probes/drones, some are made for one thing to do, some for different purposes, and therefore different in shape and size).

Edit to add: If an "Antigravity-device" is in use by the Drones, Time sure are being altered accordingly.
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« Reply #842 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 5:34pm »

on Mar 6th, 2008, 12:00pm, VonStern wrote:
I have applied a TV documentary link on VonStern Magazine. It's about how Time is slightly faster in Space than here on Earth. Very interesting, don't miss it:

Space-Time VS Earth Time/Gravity Influences Time!

Look to the bottom of the page:

http://vonstern.homepage.dk/Magazine.html

--VonStern

Ps: Very interesting new pictures - if real we sure are dealing with the same tech as the "Isaac" drones. Might just be same source, only the usage may differ. (Just like Our probes/drones, some are made for one thing to do, some for different purposes, and therefore different in shape and size).

Edit to add: If an "Antigravity-device" is in use by the Drones, Time sure are being altered accordingly.


Hello Dr. V....good to hear from you again. I will check out your latest effort!

I finished my quick photo analysis of this new large image. Here is what I can tell....The craft is not placed or pasted into another image....could be CGI, but doubt it....also the slight blurring is consistant with the object slowly rotating as the account says. Also, under high magnification I can see 2 distant objects that appear to be round in shape (hard to tell for sure due to pixel distortion. One is to the right and slightly down from the second smaller ring, another is to the right of this one at the very edge of the trees (could be a part of the tree's leaves, but there seems to consistent pixel coloration and spacing to match the surronding sky pigmentation) low res photos always a problem in this regard. May only be the one nearest the smaller ring...and it could always be a bird or closer insect, although the pixel shading and density more closely match the light properties of a distant object. There's my 2 cents worth. Cheers all smiley
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« Reply #843 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 8:28pm »

There's another one....

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008/michigancircularobject.html

Oh wait... someone already posted it. shocked

I wonder why these ones look a little different. I wonder if there really is a connection. But who doesn't wonder? grin
If only we could find out for sure...
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« Reply #844 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 12:59am »

I see Linda( earthfiles.com ) has a new drone report up.
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« Reply #845 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 01:07am »

http://www.newsweek.com/id/118841?GT1=43001.

This patch is ripe with imagery

what itrests me is

1 the alien eating a ship with fork and spoon
2 #503
3 there is a circle with a arm coming of it, it may me a stray hair but if intended it might look like a drone.

Definately a stretch.

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« Reply #846 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 07:20am »

New info to the drone story on earthfiles.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1397&category=Environment
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« Reply #847 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 2:30pm »

on Mar 6th, 2008, 5:34pm, Cogent1 wrote:
I finished my quick photo analysis of this new large image. Here is what I can tell....The craft is not placed or pasted into another image....could be CGI, but doubt it....also the slight blurring is consistant with the object slowly rotating as the account says.
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Hi Cogent smiley,

I too had a quick look and personally I thought the blurring was a little suspicious, when you say the blurring is consistent with the description the witness specifically says that, “This object floated above the river for maybe less than 30 seconds, rotating slightly then winking out.”

It doesn’t really seem as if the blurring is consistent with a slow rotation, I may be wrong but if you look at the older Drone images then the motion blur doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as evident as it does in this latest one. Of course there may be a simple explanation for this. If you look at the treetops (which appear to be behind the object) the edges are a great deal more defined than the objects sharpest edges.

Here’s a slightly enlarged crop of the image with the original size image being in the red rectangle.

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And here’s the blur that I’m talking about.

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The circled area shows what I believe to be excessive blur with the area in the rectangle seemingly a little too clear.

I’ve been trying to find a similar blur in other images but as yet I’ve had no luck. Notice the paddle that is at the 1o’clock position, it is blurred more than any other part of the image, if this was due to motion blur then shouldn’t the other paddle be similarly blurred? And how can the rear left and front right of the leading circle be blurred to the point you can’t see the edges, yet the same section on the opposite quarter/s of the circle are clearly defined.

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Also the Exif data shows, it was accessed with Photoshop just before it was uploaded, see below (fields edited to reduce overall size).

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Make: FUJIFILM
Model: FinePix 3800

Date modified: 05 March 2008 09:45:49
Orientation: Top / left side
X-Resolution: 720000/10000
Y-Resolution: 720000/10000
Firmware version: Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows

Date taken: 26 July 2002 01:13:08
Date digitized: 26 July 2002 01:13:08

F-Number: F8.2
Focal length [mm]: 6
ISO value: 100
Shutter speed [s]: 1/194
Aperture: F8.3

Sharpness: Normal
Brightness: 9.32
Image width: 1600
Image height: 1200

Average compression ratio: 16/10
Focal plane X resolution: 3034/1
Focal plane Y resolution: 3034/1
Focal plane res. unit: 3
EXIF version: 0220
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Obviously this in itself isn’t conclusive of showing editing, but it raises the possibility…..

What do you think?
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« Reply #848 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 2:52pm »

I have to say, that when I first saw this photo... my red flags went up... for the reasons you point out Dr Dil (due to blur)... and also due to the lack of reflection of the object in the water. You can see the trees, but the object is not there.

The other weird thing, the camera must have been in the water when the photo was taken... a strange place in haste to grab a quick photo of a passing object (does it really fit the story - are they in a canoe or swimming with the camera partly underwater? Look at the foreground, at the bottom of the photo, it appears they cropped most of the underwater part off... but left some of the underwater part of the photo). It’s a bit weird.

I do not see a rotating object, but something made to look like a faster (linear wise) moving object. Again, does this really fit the story?

You will have to reach your own conclusion.
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« Reply #849 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 6:00pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 2:30pm, DrDil wrote:
Hi Cogent smiley,

I too had a quick look and personally I thought the blurring was a little suspicious, when you say the blurring is consistent with the description the witness specifically says that, “This object floated above the river for maybe less than 30 seconds, rotating slightly then winking out.”

It doesn’t really seem as if the blurring is consistent with a slow rotation, I may be wrong but if you look at the older Drone images then the motion blur doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as evident as it does in this latest one. Of course there may be a simple explanation for this. If you look at the treetops (which appear to be behind the object) the edges are a great deal more defined than the objects sharpest edges.




I’ve been trying to find a similar blur in other images but as yet I’ve had no luck. Notice the paddle that is at the 1o’clock position, it is blurred more than any other part of the image, if this was due to motion blur then shouldn’t the other paddle be similarly blurred? And how can the rear left and front right of the leading circle be blurred to the point you can’t see the edges, yet the same section on the opposite quarter/s of the circle are clearly defined.



Also the Exif data shows, it was accessed with Photoshop just before it was uploaded, see below (fields edited to reduce overall size).

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Make: FUJIFILM
Model: FinePix 3800

Date modified: 05 March 2008 09:45:49
Orientation: Top / left side
X-Resolution: 720000/10000
Y-Resolution: 720000/10000
Firmware version: Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows

Date taken: 26 July 2002 01:13:08
Date digitized: 26 July 2002 01:13:08

F-Number: F8.2
Focal length [mm]: 6
ISO value: 100
Shutter speed [s]: 1/194
Aperture: F8.3

Sharpness: Normal
Brightness: 9.32
Image width: 1600
Image height: 1200

Average compression ratio: 16/10
Focal plane X resolution: 3034/1
Focal plane Y resolution: 3034/1
Focal plane res. unit: 3
EXIF version: 0220
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Obviously this in itself isn’t conclusive of showing editing, but it raises the possibility…..

What do you think?


Hi Dr D, Marvin...I knew you would jump on this!!! Good to be exchanging ideas again.....Firstly, my analysis was done very quickly and with very basic software (CorelDraw/Photopaint 12).....I agree that the blurring is odd and may in fact (if a real object) not be motion blurring at all, it may be either a vibrational blur or an optical illusion caused by a fluctuating electromagnetic (or some other) field distortion of the atmosphere around different parts of the object....it may not even be uniform as the different "members" of the object may be doing different tasks....just some speculation....as that's all we can really do with such a low res image.
As to Marvin's comments....the reflection may or may not be on the surface of the dark undulating surface of the water....the object is considerably downstream and just impossible to tell this for certain. Also, as to the viewing angle of the photograph (I was a professional photographer many years ago) it is not shot from the top surface of the water....it is about right for someone standing in a shallow stream or sitting in a canoe.
There is something odd at the bottom of the image. Where Marvin mentions the "cropping" possibility, if you look at the bottom 1/4" it is a compression of part of the middle section of the image...you can easily match the rocks on the left and bubbles in the waters surface to the mid right. Perhaps this means somethinghuh I'm not sure what. Enlighten me, if anyone knows.
Also, my software shows no exif data when looking at document properties (which is where a tab would be located if exif data was present). Dr D. how did you find the exif data (with what software etc.)? Thanks for the valued input!
Interesting tales from LMH again....and can actually read the interviews also. These 2 drone sightings predate Chad by 1 and 2 years respectively....and with lights, no less on 1 of them.....but I always worry when sightings are old and our memories easily "fill in" missing info when shown pictures and asked to choose..... wink
And lastly, I find it odd that these last 2 possible drone pics (Oregon and the afore mentioned) are distinctly different looking than the original drone images...yet very similar to one another.....the timing of disclosure and similarity in appearance are red flags to me as well....perhaps we will see. The 2 "non-photo" accounts from LMH seem very believable on the surface....but hard to believe someone could see something as surreal as one of these and not get a single shot of it!!!! A different mindset, I suppose. Cheers, all smiley
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« Reply #850 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 6:15pm »

hey all:the first picture posted i was not so sure about it felt uneasy about it,the secondraised a red flag,i dont know how to check,by using photo imaging,my reason for calling dr,yet im sure you guys have more checking to do. cool
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« Reply #851 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 6:22pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 2:30pm, DrDil wrote:
It doesn’t really seem as if the blurring is consistent with a slow rotation,


Maybe not but rotation plus object lateral movement could easily be responsible. Then of course there's always the other angle in that who can really say with any authority how an ET object is supposed to look when photographed?
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« Reply #852 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 6:37pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:22pm, Latitude wrote:
Maybe not but rotation plus object lateral movement could easily be responsible. Then of course there's always the other angle in that who can really say with any authority how an ET object is supposed to look when photographed?

Hi Lat, surely using that rationale and if you believe the Drone images to be authentic then wouldn’t they represent what, “an ET object is supposed to look when photographed”. And if you accept the earlier Drone images as authentic then wouldn’t they be perfect for comparisons?

(That’s the only reason I mentioned that the blur wasn’t anywhere near as pronounced in the earlier images.)

As for the lateral movement the witness said:

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This object floated above the river for maybe less than 30 seconds, rotating slightly then winking out.

If in the 30 second period it was viewed it was moving in any direction this should have been perceptible, and then the witness says, “Floating”. If it is due to lateral movement do you think this could also account for other parts of the object being so sharply defined?
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« Reply #853 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 6:58pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:00pm, Cogent1 wrote:
Hi Dr D, Marvin...I knew you would jump on this!!! Good to be exchanging ideas again.....

Likewise Cogent!! smiley

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:00pm, Cogent1 wrote:
As to Marvin's comments....the reflection may or may not be on the surface of the dark undulating surface of the water....the object is considerably downstream and just impossible to tell this for certain. Also, as to the viewing angle of the photograph (I was a professional photographer many years ago) it is not shot from the top surface of the water....it is about right for someone standing in a shallow stream or sitting in a canoe.

There is something odd at the bottom of the image. Where Marvin mentions the "cropping" possibility, if you look at the bottom 1/4" it is a compression of part of the middle section of the image...you can easily match the rocks on the left and bubbles in the waters surface to the mid right. Perhaps this means somethinghuh I'm not sure what. Enlighten me, if anyone knows

I also think it’s definitely part of the original image, file corruption perhaps?

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:00pm, Cogent1 wrote:
Also, my software shows no exif data when looking at document properties (which is where a tab would be located if exif data was present). Dr D. how did you find the exif data (with what software etc.)? Thanks for the valued input!
Interesting tales from LMH again....and can actually read the interviews also. These 2 drone sightings predate Chad by 1 and 2 years respectively....and with lights, no less on 1 of them.....but I always worry when sightings are old and our memories easily "fill in" missing info when shown pictures and asked to choose..... wink

I always found, “Exifer” to be one of the better free programs. I just checked the site and it says:

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Because Exifer won't be continued anymore, it's not necessary to send a postcard for registration anymore. Thanks again to all of the users which have registered it in the past...

I also tried it on the image and it showed the data no problem. It can be downloaded from their main page at:

http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:00pm, Cogent1 wrote:
And lastly, I find it odd that these last 2 possible drone pics (Oregon and the afore mentioned) are distinctly different looking than the original drone images...yet very similar to one another.....the timing of disclosure and similarity in appearance are red flags to me as well....perhaps we will see. The 2 "non-photo" accounts from LMH seem very believable on the surface....but hard to believe someone could see something as surreal as one of these and not get a single shot of it!!!! A different mindset, I suppose. Cheers, all smiley

I think if you accept the recent LMH interviews as fact the most significant comment is almost a throw-away one she makes at the end of the article:

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“She also surprised me by adding that in addition to many of the appendages moving, she watched the “cage” hanging beneath the aerial drone open and close several times. But she did not see anything leave or enter the moving cage.”

It may indeed be as many forum members speculated that the structure is a cage, several members also said that it creeped them out.

But perhaps more importantly it instantly elevates the Drones and their capacities from, “Monitoring” to, “Interacting." Which if true certainly suggests (to me) that they would be under intelligent control rather than their equivalent of, "Autopilot."
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« Reply #854 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 7:17pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:15pm, jugement wrote:
hey all:the first picture posted i was not so sure about it felt uneasy about it,the secondraised a red flag,i dont know how to check,by using photo imaging,my reason for calling dr,yet im sure you guys have more checking to do. cool

Hi Jugement smiley,

Regarding the first image.
The original crop is in the top left, then embossed and with the brightness adjusted in the top right and bottom image.

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With the brightness adjusted and also with the emboss filter applied it certainly looks as though the paddle in the 6 o’clock position is behind the crest of the hill which in turn suggest to me that the object is a LOT larger than any we’ve seen so far.

And as it relates to the Alabama Drone and the colour anomaly in the centre of the ring, the Alabama Drone actually seems as if there is some kind of field/energy in the centre where as this new one just looks like it’s been crudely inserted and the colour of it is completely different from the rest of the image. smiley
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Plus it just looks fake.....
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