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« Reply #900 on: Mar 21st, 2008, 1:00pm »

on Mar 21st, 2008, 12:34pm, Latitude wrote:
I'm not saying that Dr Maccabee is not a recognised Mufon expert on image analysis. He might be. I did not confirm that with him. My position is that if you want the truth about Dr Maccabee's position on the drone case you should ask him and not take any third parties word on it. He is very approachable. His response to me was in so many words that he is undecided and that the case should be investigated by the highest levels.


No problem Lat, really my question was why the viewing public wasn’t apprised of the fact that he’d previously viewed the images as a Mufon consultant (as James Carrion confirmed).

If anything it seems the answer would bolster the believers’ case as if his professional opinion as an image analyst was that he felt the images warranted further investigation then why wasn’t this mentioned in the section introducing Dr Maccabee?

Surely it’s very important and extremely relevant, plus as well as advancing the narrative it lends itself to furthering the authenticity of the Drones and as such I feel it should have been mentioned. I thought the clue might be in who omitted it which was why I asked the question. smiley
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« Reply #901 on: Mar 21st, 2008, 1:20pm »

HEY DOC,
THE UNIT CITED BY YOU SEEMS QUITE REASONABLE IN COMPARISON...IT DOES APPEAR AS IF IT HAS GONE THROUGH SOME CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.
THE ION DISPLACEMENT I THOUGHT WAS RELATED TO A SAIL DESIGN WHEREIN ONCE ACTIVATED THIS SLOW MOVING ION PROPULSION SAIL WOULD LUMBER ALONG IN SPACE INDEFINITELY.

THR UFO HUNTER SERIES ON THE DRONES BROKE THE ICE FOR MANY WHOM WERE UNAWARE AND THAT IS A GOOD THING.
THERE WAS A GENERAL CONSENSUS FROM THE STAFF THAT THE PHENOMENA WAS CGI....HOWEVER THE MILITARY IS USING DRONES AS WE SPEAK WHICH ATTACH TO POWER LINES TO RECHARGE AND IN SAID STATE REVERT TO A STEALTH OR HIDDEN APPEARANCE...I WAS CURIOUS WHY THIS WAS NOT MENTIONED AS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN....OVERSIGHT?
I ALSO QUESTIONED WHY IF THIS GROUP ADHERES TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OFF-WORLD VISITORS...WOULD THEY(UFO'S) NOT HAVE THEIR OWN DRONES TO SCOUT OR RECON AREAS...NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT NASA DOES IN CONCEPT.
HOWEVER,I RECOGNISE THE AVERAGE MENTALLITY THAT THE PRODUCERS HAVE DEEMED AS THEIR AUDIENCE AND THAT MAY HAVE SOME BEARING AS TO HOW THEY PRESENT THEIR MATERIAL.
I GUESS THERE ARE PROS AND CONS REGARDING THIS SHOW...THE MAIN THING I SEE IS THAT THE TOPIC IS BEING DISCUSSED.
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« Reply #902 on: Mar 21st, 2008, 6:33pm »

Greetings and salutations,
Dr. Dil that was an excellent presentation. It reminds me that we need to keep going back to the beginning and reviewing the questions and answers. Clearly The hunters presentation is exactly what we get when certain things are left out of the equation. like when doing averages and curving, we take out the highest and lowest numebers and are left with a middle ground.
With this exposure I hope that people continue to press LMH and the withholding of evidence, thats what it is, call it what you may, hi res or lo res, and and the analysis she did also, (given that good investigators are supposed to do). Perhaps she is with holding them for the Podcast she and her partner or associate ,Whitley, are doing. We have been more than generous with her, as if it were a criminal case or Grand jury , she would be in jail for contempt.
If its gov disinfo, she would have blasted the pictures early on, and reinforce her own credibility . So they must be extremely valuable to prove the reality of the drones. Well then she would have been all over the news or at least alternative news parading them, a great opportunity to shut mufon, mcabee and others up. She has Not done that either. So just what does she have to keep stringing this community, thats all of us, on?. If anything this helps the hoaxer and or Gov ops and essentially who did this.
She just wants us to accept the drones as real as Whitley does also.
But we cant, as this is 2008 and not 1957, when we all believed in pie in the sky and happy days.
Maybe the exposure will give LMH and C2C the exposure they want, and of course so richly deserve. But the questions remain, and they are not being answered by them.





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« Reply #903 on: Mar 21st, 2008, 9:34pm »

Isn't the fact that Steve says it was rainy and overcast enough to not listen any more?
I thought it was shown to be sunny at the time the pictures were taken?

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« Reply #904 on: Mar 21st, 2008, 9:36pm »

BTW, another witness has surfaced, check here:

http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=1206137339

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« Reply #905 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:06am »

on Mar 21st, 2008, 9:34pm, newtothis wrote:
Isn't the fact that Steve says it was rainy and overcast enough to not listen any more?
I thought it was shown to be sunny at the time the pictures were taken?

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You are correct sir. He also gave false information about Raj and Chad's IP addresses among other things.
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« Reply #906 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 6:03pm »

Yes he did, he is worthless as a person to trust for info. Burn us once in this community and most drop you like a hot potato, look at how LMH gets treated by many for getting duped herself awhile back.

Oh and mods what's up with the " Vote For McCain for President" on the main site? Not withstanding all the reasons for not voting for a forgetful, single minded, war mongering, OLD MAN, whose day is long past. But more than anything for the fact he is in bed with the current administration who also is keeping the truth about UFO's hidden from us. And being that he is also associated with the senior Bush, the one who told Jimmy Carter in no certain terms while running our CIA, that he did not need to know the truth about UFO's and he would not give him any info on them, period! McCain equals the same, nothing more or less.
Besides, the UFOcasebook site should be unbiased as to not chase anyone away for their political beliefs. Showing an ad from either side would cause exactly the same emotions for many here.
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« Reply #907 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 6:07pm »

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Yes he did, he is worthless as a person to trust for info. Burn us once in this community and most drop you like a hot potato, look at how LMH gets treated by many for getting duped herself awhile back.


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« Reply #908 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 08:41am »

on Mar 23rd, 2008, 6:03pm, endzone wrote:
Oh and mods what's up with the " Vote For McCain for President" on the main site? Not withstanding all the reasons for not voting for a forgetful, single minded, war mongering, OLD MAN, whose day is long past. But more than anything for the fact he is in bed with the current administration who also is keeping the truth about UFO's hidden from us.


I didn't see an ad or story on McCain for President! The only thing I saw was a story about contacting the U.S. Senate to promote UFO disclosure. BTW we're only Moderators inside the forum. So if you have a problem with something on the main/news page you need to contact the adminstrator of the site. I do agree with you this isn't a political site. If you want to discuss politics then those who do should go a political forum. However that doesn't stop people from bashing Bush and others here daily like you just did. Dan
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« Reply #909 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 1:40pm »

Likely an automatic ad placement that does not in any way reflect the political leanings of BJ or UFOCB.
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« Reply #910 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 2:23pm »

Link to Fox report on Drone investigation:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1012673546768303233&hl=en

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« Reply #911 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 2:57pm »

on Mar 24th, 2008, 2:23pm, Marvin wrote:
Link to Fox report on Drone investigation:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1012673546768303233&hl=en


Hi Marvin, I think that's the older one, there's a more recent one here.

(Also there is the one you linked to) smiley
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« Reply #912 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 11:36pm »

HEY ENDZONE,
I LOOKED, MUCH LIKE GFORCE, FOR THE POST REFERENCED BY YOU REGARDING ONE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AND FAILED TO FIND IT.
HOWEVER,MY FRIEND GFORCE ELLOQUENTLY STATEDTHIS FORUMS POSITION QUITE WELL.
I MUST ADD ONE THING AS THE REFERENCE TO ELDER STATESMEN HAD ME PERPLEXED.I THINK MANY HELD RONALD REAGAN IN HIGH REGARD.FURTHERMORE,THIS ELDER STATESMEN DID MUCH TO SHED LIGHT ON THE TOPIC OF THE EXISTENCE OF OFF WORLD ENTITIES...THIS CONCERN WAS FURTHER BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS ON SEVERAL OCCAISIONS...I'M NOT PRIVY AS TO WHICH SECT PRESIDENT REAGAN WAS REFERING TO AS BEING A THREAT WHICH WOULD REDUCE OUR WORLDLY DIFFERENCES...BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT...AGE BRINGS WISDOM WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUTHFUL IDESCRETIONS...THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT YOUNGER PERSONS MAY NOT HAVE WISDOM BUT MANY OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS HAD GREY HAIR AND A FEW DECADES UNDER THEIR BELT WHEN TWEAKING THAT SMALL DOCUMENT WHICH HAS STOOD FOR A COUPLE A HUNDRED YEARS..."DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE"...LET'S NOT FORGET "THE BILL OF RIGHTS".
I ONLY POINT OUT PRESIDENT REAGAN'S INTEREST IN "ET"...THERE HAS BEEN NO PERFECT PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION...AND HIS AS MOST HAVE HAD THEIR SHARE OF PROBLEMS...HAVING SAID THAT MY FRIEND ENDZONE...NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC OF UFOLOGY.
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« Reply #913 on: Mar 25th, 2008, 08:32am »

on Mar 24th, 2008, 2:57pm, DrDil wrote:
Hi Marvin, I think that's the older one, there's a more recent one here.

(Also there is the one you linked to) smiley


Opps, sorry… must be senility. rolleyes

How about this...

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1402&category=Environment

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1403&category=Environment
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« Reply #914 on: Mar 27th, 2008, 5:50pm »

Question for you Dr Dill. You claim about the BB drone on ATS:
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One other thing, on this recently release image you can easily see what appears to be two wires, it just seems an all too, “Human” way of strengthening the structure by (possibly) tethering the paddle.


What makes you think those wires are for support or tethering? The truth is you have no idea what those wires could be used for. You are only guessing with a preconceived notion. The curvature of the lines tells me they are supporting nothing. Look at the other pics. You will see there are actually four wires coming off of the small ring. Look at the curve in those wires. It's obvious they are NOT support wires. You disappoint me. I expected better.

But look real close at the hi rez. Look at where the rings attach to the main body. Notice the hooks that come off the body for attaching things. Why would there be so many? More hooks than appendages. Notice the large ring attached to one of the hooks? It does not press against the body. What keeps the ring in the upright position and how can it stay attached with very little of a connecting point?
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