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« Reply #1050 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 3:35pm »

Again, kudos to the DRT!!

The lamp image released by the DRT is taken from a similar angle as the original. (Camera perhaps pointing slightly more to the right).

First image is centred on pole:
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Perhaps Nemo betrays the technique employed as a Google translation of ovnis-usa.com reads:

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The highly sophisticated method which helped locate the site will be exposed in the future.

Which possibly means that it was located via a technological means rather than footwork, i.e. Google maps, street-view etc. Or it could be Nemo just ‘bigging’ the discovery up which in this case he’s entirely justified doing!!

Again, stellar work DRT….

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« Reply #1051 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 3:40pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 3:04pm, TeachersPet wrote:
At least the public will not be fooled anymore..and that is what is important and why we hung this long, not to win war of words..but to get to truth.


Yep this is the important part...Good work on this DRT but I will wait on those kudos to see who actually found it... wink
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« Reply #1052 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 4:15pm »

I will wait on the kudos as well until we see the DRT come to a conclusion of hoax rather than trying to use the real lamppost as an indication of a real drone!! grin
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« Reply #1053 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 4:26pm »

In the meantime, as it seems we were close to something, just before the announcement,we can continue looking in that area with google ..who knows what we can see. I have google pro, but as of yet doent see any marked benefit yet over regular free google. At the time of the alleged sighting it was near 5pm or so so people were returning home from work. Surely more than a couple of people saw something during rush hour , as it was almost a minute betwen each shot. So it hung around for quite a long time actually.
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« Reply #1054 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 4:28pm »

I’ll be honest, I’m not interested in their conclusions per se but if they keep turning up real-world verifiable facts such as physical locations of the Drone photographs and they make these public then major kudos is due.

They may hold on to these facts for quite a while before they make them public and as infuriating as it is, it’s their prerogative to do so. In all fairness and in light of this latest revelation we have no reason to doubt they will release this information when ready.

While I agree that if a collective consensus is ever reached by them it will be interesting it means nothing to me personally whether they declare hoax, real, sneaky suspicion it was always a hoax, still think a part of it is real etc. etc.

Personally speaking I would need to see some pretty remarkable evidence to suggest it was anything other than an internet hoax but as I say, real-world data is vital and also to future researchers who may happen across this debacle, if the DRT provide it then once more kudos, irrespective of the source!!

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(Or perhaps I'm just mellowing in my old age!! grin)
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« Reply #1055 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 4:41pm »

Agreed DrDil, thats why we needent wait on anyone, just continue what we were doing prior.
They will let us know when they are ready.
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« Reply #1056 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 5:03pm »

I want to see how the hoax aspects are discussed on the DRT site without violating the membership condition.
Should be interesting.
A cautionary "good job" to them pending more details.


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« Reply #1057 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 5:09pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 4:28pm, DrDil wrote:
I’ll be honest, I’m not interested in their conclusions per se but if they keep turning up real-world verifiable facts such as physical locations of the Drone photographs and they make these public then major kudos is due.

They may hold on to these facts for quite a while before they make them public and as infuriating as it is, it’s their prerogative to do so. In all fairness and in light of this latest revelation we have no reason to doubt they will release this information when ready.

While I agree that if a collective consensus is ever reached by them it will be interesting it means nothing to me personally whether they declare hoax, real, sneaky suspicion it was always a hoax, still think a part of it is real etc. etc.

Personally speaking I would need to see some pretty remarkable evidence to suggest it was anything other than an internet hoax but as I say, real-world data is vital and also to future researchers who may happen across this debacle, if the DRT provide it then once more kudos, irrespective of the source!!

Cheers. smiley

(Or perhaps I'm just mellowing in my old age!! grin)




I am in full agreement with you DrDil.

As I have said to 11A... I give credit where credit is due. Kudos to the DRT (and to the finder, whom ever that may be).

Proof of the existence for the background (for photos) is a bit short to be proof of the existence of the Drone itself… which in this case, the DRT has publicly stated there are issues with the lighting of the Raj Drone (cracking the door to it may be fake).

Objective evidence is objective evidence… no one on the “correct side” of an issue has anything to fear from it (that is to say... anyone who’s assertions are correct, based on objective evidence). After all, that is why we are all here... and debating all this time over who is correct and who is not.

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« Reply #1058 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 5:30pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 4:41pm, TeachersPet wrote:
Agreed DrDil, thats why we needent wait on anyone, just continue what we were doing prior.
They will let us know when they are ready.

Hi TP, it's been a while wink laugh

I agree, this is merely confirmation (if it was required) that YET another witness was purposefully deceitful regarding what is fundamentally the very basis of their account (i.e. the ‘back-story’).

When the location is released we need to triangulate the KNOWN locations and just perhaps the Lake Tahoe image will depict a building either within or on the perimeters of the triangle.

I also agree that failing the release of some monumental evidence that we’re considerably past the where’s and are –as we have been for over a year- firmly directed at the who’s, as in my humble opinion we’re even past the why’s, it would be nice to know but once the, "who’s" are known it should be a logical progression.

I am however teetering on the precipice of the reasoning that there just MAY be a little more behind this than your average internet hoax, not necessarily due to the ‘finesse’ of the images and certainly not because of the (ahem wink) 'eloquence' of Isaac’s ‘purple prose’ but there’s definitely something niggling me and has been for a while, make of that what you will….. wink

Now, where were we!! grin

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« Reply #1059 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 6:13pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 1:38pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
Tomi keeps lurking but not posting......don't be bashful Tomi! smiley


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I am so proud, delighted, excited and amazed of the PI's and the DRT for getting this far. WTG !!
All the way Someday I pray! Kudos & Congrats !!
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« Reply #1060 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 7:15pm »

I was right Katts a Plant! Are you one of the marijuana growers behind the Resentaurant? hey Numbers tried to keep it quiet..they all did..but Hawaii Five -O knows now. cheesy Jeddyhi and Marvin exposed and turned you in .
hahahahaha JK I luv it Katt..cheesy
Whatever I say about Numbers, he is a fine father to his kids..thats no lie. Do I trust here on a forum, hell no.

Yes Dr.. finesse , the studio finesse, is there on the photos and when Josh admitted completing episodes and then revising them, ie taking and addin in crap at the last minute like that episode 13, which had Isaac to start with..well that was a little much..I Found SCC blogs and sites with codes, complex number sequences to decrypt, just for keeping interested fans alert. Same pattern as others like the Topcola people for games like halo..and slusshy for JJ abrams movie:Go there go here..some sites are still up like Isaac and having two or three was nothing. That was a red flag right there.
The drone releases were like dot on top of dot with Fox...in 2007

Isaac had its codes and themes of living and intelligent metal as well., just like the movie..and when Numbers had mentioned he was divorced, and Isaac talked about hiis divorced friend, and Robert talked about his Father , it was as if subliminally they were working us on several levels..Numbers has the same name as StoryBoard used by Josh, and other Producers. , They have used subliminal messages flashing across screen in SCC too. "The Turk is not Dead"..So that technique is what you may have picked up as the something other than Prank in this convoluted mess.
Why is the reaching a crescendo now?, well..the contracts almost over..hahaha and SCC2 is coming out next month, and you have tie ins to T4

The markets tested were same as represented in ARC and DRT, US, FR, UK, De Germany, Au.
Remember, Virgin in Uk picked up series too, as well like SA network. They are same as Alien ware Market. Thats why they all tie together.and market together.
I'm sitting back as I am confident thats what it is.

What thru me off was Woy, aka Mocs at myspace.when he manipulated that 45 meg picture with photoshop adornment of characters. Dopefish..I was the Dope..I sent Marvin links to that months ago.
He is in Richmond Va, same as that storyboard musician and music producer of the band Crackers that lives in our target area, in Santa cruz and has a sound studio in Va.Deborah is also in Va..If its not Numbers, then he is one heck of a groupee with non abductees syndrome.
But it makes sense if you want to distract and buy time..
I took the bait, and he has never posted since,

That essentiall is what has been going on stretching and buying time, imo until the Series kicks in February.
Warners, Disney,MgM, DO NOT EVERtake stuff like that and boilerplate copy into a movie without paying for it, or giving a modicum of Credit..I gave example at Screen Rant..Its that simple!..Even Josh, who is credited with screenplay in War of the Worlds, did NOT write it, but because he helped they credited him..That was just for idea..think about..just idea ..Isaac did more than Idea. Josh did not credit..He bought or its his..or handed down by C2 makers of terminator people. Same people.

Viral mktrs, test marketers..have built in Psychological teams to develop profiles and behaviour analysis.a as proficient as a military op, in fact military contract with them.
But this isn't miltary imo. Its commercial, with potential military appplication..because it becomes a database for human behaviour on global setting. They can sell it to anyone..the same way mailing lists are sold..but a lot more bucks..if not, helps them maintain their own competitive edge..they are constantly testing.

Anyway..Thats my take for now..In the meantime, I hope MarsAve can post a message on his hobby website so we can get confirmation its him. That will eliminate that cloud its not him..its a routine thing..nothig personal should be made of it.





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« Reply #1061 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 7:36pm »

Thank you, TP.

Yep, it's pretty easy to connect the dots now that we have enough dots. Thank you TP and the rest of the ARC for uncovering all those dots.

The psychodrama is complex and interesting, even more interesting than any other aspect of this saga. At times, I have felt that a better term than "hoax" for this mess is "mental illness." I'll watch the DRT go through its end game scenario, and then watch them attempt, at least, to take credit for "proving" it was a hoax, and be satisfied that I helped squeeze them hard enough to cough up a little piece of the truth. Eventually, after several memoirs are published, the whole truth will be assembled, but I doubt that I'll be around to see it. That's okay, it's show bidness, after all. Who cares about ufology anyway? It's just a bunch of crazy people, and we can make millions!
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« Reply #1062 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 7:57pm »

I'm not too sure of the intended audience of this. If it was the general public I think it failed.
If it was the likes of us and others on the net forums then they studied a subset of who knows what. I'd say they proved what was to be expected - that some believe anything, some believe nothing and those in between. No real revelation there.
If it was some study exercise, I really don't know who the joke is on. It could be on them when all is said and done.
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« Reply #1063 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 8:01pm »

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. --Mark Twain
Double, I just saw that..
God I love Mark Twain..
That will make a good epitaph for this story..

And the Eulogy :Nothing became the Drone story's entry into the world more, than its exit from it.
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« Reply #1064 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 8:09pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 8:01pm, TeachersPet wrote:
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. --Mark Twain
Double, I just saw that..
God I love Mark Twain..
That will make a good epitaph for this story..

And the Eulogy :Nothing became the Drones story's entry into the world, than its exit from it.


So you might say we are watching a Live Egress?

It occurred to me today that the last few people who care at all about the drone saga are involved in the discussion here and a few other sites. As hoaxes go, this one did not have a longer than average life span. Some have been going for decades and show no signs of going away. Fifty years from now, someone will dig up all this verbiage and all those images from the primordial days of internet communities, and write a paper on it. People will puzzle over it for a while, and move on to the next curiosity.
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